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Hideki Kamiya on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale: "It's just a ripoff."
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WrenchNinja
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Indeed, explains why uncharted 3 was broken and barebones.
Kamiya
He didn't just say it sucked, he said it was a shitty game that couldn't be helped!
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Or that it was a rip-off in the first place!
No, Okami has creativity and artistic integrity/vision. If you think about Kamiya as a creator/artist, then you'll understand his problem with rip-offs.
Man-is-Obsolete
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And I'm done.
Glorified G
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thepotatoman
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You know all this talk about Bayonetta and that Wii-U game, but why isn't anyone talking about Okami being a Zelda clone? I distinctly remember that one actually getting the same "ripoff" hate from nintendo fans. Like a lot of it.
Hot Coldman
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Oh shit I linked the wrong wiki, meant to post this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Smash-Up#Characters
I dunno what the hell that other one is going on about :lol
Paracelsus
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Indeed, it feels even unnecessarily longer than Zelda, quite the achievement.
Phoenician_Viking
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All stars have a functioning online, so it can´t be a blatant copy.
Doctor Decimate
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the reactions by PS All Stars fans are nothing short of insecurity. the game OBVIOUSLY takes heavy inspiration from the Smash Bros. series, and that's putting it lightly. but does that mean it won't be a good game? of course not. the correct answer to something like this is "so what?", not "no it's not!" or "you haven't played it!" get a grip.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Kamiya just made my day.
On a related note, it is very common to see twitpics of Japanese involving their food for some odd reason.
...please think of what you said for a moment.
People were fine because the team was suitable, it was until the Rabbids invasion ruining it.
On a related note, it is very common to see twitpics of Japanese involving their food for some odd reason.
...please think of what you said for a moment.
People were fine because the team was suitable, it was until the Rabbids invasion ruining it.
I don't even think Smash Bros. is that good. :/
This is a pretty painful thread to read. I hope the Bayonetta = DMC ripoff posts are joking.
From what I've played of PSASBR I don't really get into it that much, but it might just be the roster. The emphasis of supers doesn't do much for me, but it does make it a lot different from SSB.
From what I've played of PSASBR I don't really get into it that much, but it might just be the roster. The emphasis of supers doesn't do much for me, but it does make it a lot different from SSB.
kunonabi
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They already did.
Boss Man
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Isn't that how most people are reacting? Also, the "you haven't played it!" is a reaction from people in the beta towards people who are saying that the game isn't any good or is exactly like Smash.
Of course it was inspired by SSB, the developers even said this. But it's its own game and plays a lot differently.
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thepotatoman
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So his problem is with the art style and story? Cause gameplay wise Okami plays exactly like Zelda. There is no question that a large part of Okami was inspired by Zelda.
Byakuya769
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It's funny cause he's public, but Kamiya really is just an average gaf poster.
Thought I remembered him getting really heated about it being called a "ripoff."
TheBaronOfNA
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WrenchNinja
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What a load.
I fucking know this as Ive played Okami and have have defended it against ripoff claims for years.
Kamiya being dismissive over surface elements is exactly the same thing.
Phoenician_Viking
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Fan made tracks and stuff from the beta since it´s play create share.
I have. And it's a rip off.
Doctor Decimate
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why? that's his personal belief.
Paracelsus
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There's plenty of CoD-clones and quite some GoW/GOW-clones, the one time you pick a game that had no clones in recent years there you have him crap all over it. Maybe it's just him acting badass but it kinda reeks of bias.
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thepotatoman
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Probably for the same reason people are getting heated for him calling PSAS a ripoff.
How is it dishonest? What is 'morally' okay is not set in stone and is up for an individual to decide. He may think that, it doesn't mean he expects everyone to agree.
The guy is not gonna read your post anyways...
They are nothing alike...you can actually play PSABR online
Exactly? Really?
I'm sorry what PS all stars fans are saying its not a rip off? The main argument is that it's actually nothing like smash bros, which is completely true. But even so we all agree it's heavily heavily inspired by smash bros.
Not to speak for any of the other fans, but I think that's the consensus.
Ragingnight
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Mortal Kombat is a ripoff of SF. Everybody boycott MK.
DOA/Tekken is a ripoff of VF. Buy VF5 and boycott DOA5 and Tekken Tag 2.
DOA/Tekken is a ripoff of VF. Buy VF5 and boycott DOA5 and Tekken Tag 2.
TheBaronOfNA
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KillerTravis
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I don't see the comparison between Zelda and Okami apart from both of them being adventure games where you progressively get skills. You just need to see a picture comparison between Smash and PSABR to know that it's a ripoff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Ice_Baby
or possibly:
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Imitation+is+the+sincerest+form+of+flattery
It is easy to see that PSASBR is closely derivative of SSB. Whether that constitutes a "ripoff" is a personal judgment. I can see both sides of the argument. That said, I will buy the next iteration of SSB. It is highly doubtful I'll be picking up PSASBR.
or possibly:
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Imitation+is+the+sincerest+form+of+flattery
It is easy to see that PSASBR is closely derivative of SSB. Whether that constitutes a "ripoff" is a personal judgment. I can see both sides of the argument. That said, I will buy the next iteration of SSB. It is highly doubtful I'll be picking up PSASBR.
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thepotatoman
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Indeed. Everybody admits the inspiration came from Smash, but Zelda has spawned tons of games that obviously got inspiration from Zelda, including Okami, and yet get praised. This game gets mocked for it.
Acquiescence
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So who in the game is a character that nobody has ever heard of then?
MakeMeFeelAlive
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Whatever, he's obviously entitled to his opinion..though it may not make any sense.
Yes, the game is obviously inspired by SB. Who cares? Every thing is inspired by something. Street Fighter inspired different fighting games and they evolved the fighting genre. You can argue that many of Kamiya's games were inspired by Golden Axe. He must not watch movies or read novels, since most story arcs, themes, etc. stem from previous ideas. The Matrix for example, was a great movie that heavily borrowed themes and motifs. It's essentially another variety of free will v. destiny; or even head in a jar by Descartes.
Uncharted obviously borrowed ideas from other stories, gameplay, etc., but executed better than most games.
IMO, it's a very myopic view. Yes, you can always try to reinvent the wheel. Come up with something brand new. But you can also improve on something else and make it fantastic, and memorable on its own. I haven't played the game yet, but what if it's fantastic? What if the final game plays amazing, looks great, and is fun? I just don't get his type of thinking, and i find it disappointing. End of my rant
Yes, the game is obviously inspired by SB. Who cares? Every thing is inspired by something. Street Fighter inspired different fighting games and they evolved the fighting genre. You can argue that many of Kamiya's games were inspired by Golden Axe. He must not watch movies or read novels, since most story arcs, themes, etc. stem from previous ideas. The Matrix for example, was a great movie that heavily borrowed themes and motifs. It's essentially another variety of free will v. destiny; or even head in a jar by Descartes.
Uncharted obviously borrowed ideas from other stories, gameplay, etc., but executed better than most games.
IMO, it's a very myopic view. Yes, you can always try to reinvent the wheel. Come up with something brand new. But you can also improve on something else and make it fantastic, and memorable on its own. I haven't played the game yet, but what if it's fantastic? What if the final game plays amazing, looks great, and is fun? I just don't get his type of thinking, and i find it disappointing. End of my rant
Okami follows a Zelda like progression, but it is not really similar beyond that. The entire artistic influence and how it's used as a gameplay element was a main draw of the game and was wholly unique.
MoonsaultSlayer
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My definition of a rip-off is a quick cash-in on something popular. Sony could have done this years ago when smash was huge.
This game coming at the end of Sony's 3rd generation lifecycle is more of a fan and game appreciation than trying to capitalize on Nintendo's new hit. SMH
This game coming at the end of Sony's 3rd generation lifecycle is more of a fan and game appreciation than trying to capitalize on Nintendo's new hit. SMH
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