I didn't upload a picture, but yeah, there are a lot of used copies of P4. And a few used Vitas that looked VERY lightly used. I know if I were buying a Vita right now I'd go for a used one. Plentiful and cheap. Good for the customer, but I am sure that Sony hopes people will buy new.
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Media Create Sales: Week 33, 2012 (Aug 13 - Aug 19)
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I didn't upload a picture, but yeah, there are a lot of used copies of P4. And a few used Vitas that looked VERY lightly used. I know if I were buying a Vita right now I'd go for a used one. Plentiful and cheap. Good for the customer, but I am sure that Sony hopes people will buy new.
Moor-Angol
Banned
I never saw "ton on Vita games" on any shelf in any videogame shop i visited while i was in Japan....
usually there were more Mario Kart 7 or MH3G or Super Mario Land used games alone than all Vita used games...
the situation in Japan for Vita is embarassing
usually there were more Mario Kart 7 or MH3G or Super Mario Land used games alone than all Vita used games...
the situation in Japan for Vita is embarassing
grimshawish
Banned
Just wanted to pick up on this, whilst true - MGS 3DS did much better than expected. MGS HD was what you'd expect. Just for future reference as I think its interesting how some games are doing well on the 3DS seemingly just from being on that platform.
Come on! Come back to earth!
[PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega) - 241.467
test_account
XP-39C²
That happeneds to a lot of games, people completing them and selling them quickly after to get as much money possible before the games drops in price. Its mostly for games that are linear and doesnt have much replay value i assume.
Sammy Samusu
Member
If there's ONE person who can save Vita, that person is Kojima.
Let's suppose there's a new MGS game like PW, it would probably land on PSV, not 3DS.
Father_Brain
Banned
Considering how KojiPro supported PSP and just how poorly PW sold outside Japan, I took their statements about Vita at E3 and TGS last year as a pretty strong indication that they've abandoned bespoke handheld development, and I'll believe that until I have good reason to suspect otherwise. I'd say there's more chance of a 3DS exclusive from them considering the market, but I don't think that's terribly likely, either.
The last third-party hope is Square Enix, not KojiPro, IMO, but I digress.
I mixed the numbers here. NDS has sold more sw from PSP for FY, not CY.
sinobi had said miku had a strong June for preorders and after then it slowed down at summer.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Totally agreed. Kojipro came out stronger for Vita initially than any other major JP studio with announcements of MGS HD, ZOE HD and a Fox Engine multiplatform project. Since then MGS HD came and went (and bombed harder than MGS3D) while ZOE HD has seemingly vanished... I dunno, but I wouldn't really put money on their Fox engine project now either. Why limit the game to the lowest common demoniator (Vita) given the market realities now facing it? I think the future of Kojipro's Vita commitments likely hinge on how much Sony is looking to invest in them directly.
Juding the numbers from those last weeks I said yes, it's very likely.
Guaranteed if you go by Famitsu and pretty likely if you go with Media Create, yeah.
So while Vita had a relatively strong June, preorders went up for Miku.
Also, didn't realize that a PS3 port of Miku had already been announced. I wonder if the Minna no Golf 6 port-betrayalton will end up being as impactful in Japan as the Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories port betrayalton was for PSP in the U.S. (i.e. After GTA:LCS, most just figured any big PSP game would be getting ported to consoles eventually, too, which impacted PSP hardware sales.)
electroplankton
Banned
I see Kojima attracted by 3DS more than by Vita for smaller projects like Boktai, Lunar Knights and Kabutore. AAA projects from him are unlikely for both platforms (unlike there will be some sort of agreement with Nintendo as they did with Team Ninja, Platinum and Mistwalker).
Kojima Production x Nintendo? It's literally impossible. XD
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think it depends on Japan Studio's future moves. Mingol 6 could be seen as a one off yet, but if something like Gravity Daze PS3 gets announced, it's all over.
Joseph Flemming
Member
^ this, (gravity Daze) I would love an enhanced port with a stronger ending. As it stands, I think the game deserves a larger audience, and the IP a chance to grow.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
It's not necessairily a bad move honestly, same for Soul Sacrifice. And really, getting some PS3 ports over to Vita (Tokyo Jungle, Rain, Puppeteer, etc) isn't a bad idea either. Japan Studio seems stretched pretty thin in general for whatever reason, going full multiplatform might be a better solution than trying to uniquely support two similar level platforms.
The downside obviously being unique experiences tend to be what sells a new system, but Vita may be fast approaching the point where delivering more content rather than exclusive content is deemed more important.
Joseph Flemming
Member
I agree with that... Who knows if they port those games and grow the base, making Vita exclusive sequels might entice people to buy. Them again, that might be to optimistic, but giving these IP's a chance to grow might be able to create future iterations on the PS4 viable if Vita does continue to decline.
I don't think it's going to sell zero copies.
grimshawish
Banned
Not sure when it'll be announced but I thought they might do one right after the big press conference their doing.
Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires now will be out on 8th November.
http://andriasang.com/con2e8/dw7_empires_delay/
Can this be considered good for Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd?
http://andriasang.com/con2e8/dw7_empires_delay/
Can this be considered good for Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd?
I think what he meant is that it's 100% guaranteed that it will sell lower than the PSP entries XD.
A gravity daze port to PS3 sounds interesting, does it not use features like the backpad, cameras, etc??
It uses the gyroscope for flight (or aiming aerial attacks), the touch screen gliding and launching special attacks. Porting it to PS3 would give it a benefit of cleaner visuals, but loses the game's unique control set since while you can map some things to the PS3's extra buttons, the gyro stuff just isn't the same with a DS3 than it is Vita.
Thankfully, they can re-map the gimmicks to actual buttons. No more touch screen to fucking dodge! Hooray!
electroplankton
Banned
Square ported TWEWY on iOS, I don't see why Sony shouldn't do the same with Gravity Daze on PS3.
I never said they couldn't. The game began development on PS3 so they obviously had a plan to make it work on that hardware. Having owned a copy, and played it (which I suspect you haven't) I'm just stating my opinion on how it work control wise. Gravity Slide would probably be better on PS3, but the floating mechanic (which is the backbone of the game) would be worse.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/181/G018159/20120827054/
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 [PSP/3DS] and Winning Eleven PlayMaker 2013 [Wii] all on 11th November.
PSP SKUs at 3,980 Yen, Wii and 3DS ones at 4,980.
P.S. Do the stars in the logo indicate how many times the game has been released on a platform? O_O
EDIT: It seems time for some other minor news, now.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/139/G013935/20120827018/
Rhythm Thief and the Treasure of Emperor Napoleon [3DS] getting the SEGA The Best treatment. 2,940 Yen, 22th November.
As well as Virtua Tennis 4. PS3/Vita: 2,940 Yen, 29th November. 360: 2,600 Yen, 4th December
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 [PSP/3DS] and Winning Eleven PlayMaker 2013 [Wii] all on 11th November.
PSP SKUs at 3,980 Yen, Wii and 3DS ones at 4,980.
P.S. Do the stars in the logo indicate how many times the game has been released on a platform? O_O
EDIT: It seems time for some other minor news, now.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/139/G013935/20120827018/
Rhythm Thief and the Treasure of Emperor Napoleon [3DS] getting the SEGA The Best treatment. 2,940 Yen, 22th November.
As well as Virtua Tennis 4. PS3/Vita: 2,940 Yen, 29th November. 360: 2,600 Yen, 4th December
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
WE not releasing weeks/months late on Nintendo hardware?! Another sign the Apocalypse is at hand...
I can't believe they keep releasing a new version of Playmaker despite its previous horribad sales.
I'm not complaining though, it's my favorite game on Wii by far. Makes me hope they will keep supporting it on Wii U...
electroplankton
Banned
Well, they didn't sell so bad. I mean, how costly can be update modes and teams in the Wii version? http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?t...d1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1
kobashi100
Banned
glad WE on the nintendo machines finally getting released Alongside the others.
I expect 3DS sales should be better then last years.
edit, just noticed PSP version is cheaper. No need for PSP WE gamers that crossed over to 3DS to ignore the PSP version when it is cheaper.
I expect 3DS sales should be better then last years.
edit, just noticed PSP version is cheaper. No need for PSP WE gamers that crossed over to 3DS to ignore the PSP version when it is cheaper.
whatsinaname
Member
For the handhelds and the Wii version, I think so. For PS3/XboX 360/PC, not exactly.
PES moved from PES 6 to PES 2008. But they allude to the old naming system using the '*' s.
PES 2013 is actually mainline PES 12.
Well, last year we had Wii SKU released the same date as PSP and PS2 ones, and pretty near to PS3 release. 3DS version, instead, released on 8th December.
This year, there seems to be no date for the PS2 version in Japan so far(!!!!), and then Wii/3DS/PSP on the same day. I'm wondering why PSP SKU costs 1,000 Yen lower than what it usually costed, 4,980 Yen ( the same price as Wii and 3DS versions).
It'll be pretty interesting to see if 3DS this time obtains to steal even a little piece of the PSP soccer audience. After a good beginning with WE3DSoccer, WE2012 did horribly. And it was released in one of the best weeks for 3DS (MH3G released just two days after WE). Not having PS2 release AND being so established right now could help.
@ whatsinaname: Thanks!
Yes, it hardly can sell any worse (10k in four weeks).
Predict how much these titles will sell in the period (from Aug 27 to Sep 30):
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) - 100000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) - 70000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) - 210000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) - 60000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) - 70000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) - 55000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) - 30000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) - 50000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) - 25000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) - 50000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) - 20000
Was going to put up 100k for FF3 then i realized how silly that was, heh. Even 50k is generous, but we'll see.
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (5 wk) - 100000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst (5 wk) - 70000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f (5 wk) - 210000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA (5 wk) - 60000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (3 wk) - 70000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd (3 wk) - 55000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho (3 wk) - 30000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III (2 wk) - 50000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (1 wk) - 25000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5 (1 wk) - 50000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta (1 wk) - 20000
Was going to put up 100k for FF3 then i realized how silly that was, heh. Even 50k is generous, but we'll see.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think after 2010 they've shifted to just roster update mode. I wonder if the Playmaker branding will continue on Wii U?
Moor-Angol
Banned
PS3 version has 16 stars and it's released a month before 3DS/PSP/Wii ones
what about Vita ?
what about Vita ?
The biggest WTF of 2012 is still no PES 2013 on Vita.
Moor-Angol
Banned
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Even more wtf, European retailer leaks point to Wii U getting PES2013.
They decided that it will be better for them to not spend money porting this year iteration because the game will change a lot next year. Pes 2014 will use the Fox engine which is a PC/PS3/360/Vita engine, so he's probably way more easy to port that to the Vita.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
PES14 being FOX Engine also makes me wonder if they'll drop the SD versions next year (Wii/PS2/PSP/3DS)?
Source?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=481960
Also leaked Warriors Orochi 3 and a new Deca Sports. I expect to see all 3 at Nintendo JP rollout.