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Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth™

Riposte

Member
If he was ever going to enjoy a RE game, it would have been one structured like this. That's probably more telling.

The mechanics are laid out in a way that I can't imagine Jeff liking it at all. I'm going to say the "structure" doesn't matter in comparison.
 

mollipen

Member
LOL. I see some "judge the game for yourself" people are showing up. Funny that they don't when a game is getting universal praise.

I'm saying that, because I've actually played RE6, and I unequivocally loved my time with it. Sometimes when you review game after game after game, it's easy to get jaded, and that might be what's happening here. Or, maybe some people just wanted a totally different take on RE than what RE6 provided—I know that, as a longtime Silent Hill fan, I hated Shattered Memories for that very reason.

I would absolutely beg people to not write off RE6 due to these reviews. Yes, it has flaws, but when I allowed myself to look past those flaws and really consider what kind of experience I was having while playing the game, RE6 was far and away one of the bright spots of the year for me. I said earlier in the thread that I think RE6 is a far better Resident Evil game than RE4 was, and I stand behind that opinion.

And, to be clear, I hated every bit of RE5 that I played.
 

Spacebar

Member
In a year someone will post a thread called "LTTP RE6". Then everyone will post about how awesome this game was and how they were the only ones who thought it was good when it came out despite all the negative reviews. This is neogaf.
 

Haunted

Member
what has happened here:

- anti-japanese sentiment has reached a tipping point in western press
- capcom are an acceptable developer to criticise due to their mixed business practices
- the game is bloated and excessive, but it's also difficult and has a steep learning curve

consequently, re6 becomes the perfect target to;

a. prove journalistic integrity by tearing down an AAA title
b. slaughter a hugely popular japanese brand with a sound 'motive'

reality: re6 still contains more imagination and innovation than most (if not all) AAA western games.
wowowow
 
I'd like you to tell me how RE Revelations is different from RE6.

I am just jumping in here but in what ways is Revelations like RE6? I think you need to do the reasons why. The combat in Revelations is nothing like RE6. The structure of the game is nothing like RE6. Raid mode is totally unique and nothing in RE6 is like it. I dont get what you are saying.
 

saichi

Member
Huh? RE5 has sold very consistently since its release. In Japan, it's the only million selling console game this gen aside from FFXIII (this counts Alternative Edition).

probably need to re-write that since it sounds like there are only two million-selling console games this gen.
 

faridmon

Member
if it was genuinely good there wouldn't be anywhere near the number of bad reviews.

also, take note of who gives the positive reviews. Be wary of them next time.

People are saying its opinion and bla bla, I don't agree. There should be an objective line that tells you what is wrong with a game, and what is right about it.

I am wary of all of them because of that.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
Yeah, I will never understand the RE4 hate when it comes to the "blah blah blah action and stuff" talk. The atmosphere is amazing in that game, and there is plenty of walking around dark areas just waiting for something to pop out that may never actually come. RE5 did not have this, unfortunately, at least not to the same effect.

I started replaying RE5 because of all the time I was spending talking about RE6. It's just not that exciting when you're playing alone.

It also has worse framerate and image quality on PS3 than I remembered. :(
 
what has happened here:

- anti-japanese sentiment has reached a tipping point in western press
- capcom are an acceptable developer to criticise due to their mixed business practices
- the game is bloated and excessive, but it's also difficult and has a steep learning curve

consequently, re6 becomes the perfect target to;

a. prove journalistic integrity by tearing down an AAA title
b. slaughter a hugely popular japanese brand with a sound 'motive'

reality: re6 still contains more imagination and innovation than most (if not all) AAA western games.

Capcpom just shot themselves in the foot, etc. etc.
 
I'm saying that, because I've actually played RE6, and I unequivocally loved my time with it. Sometimes when you review game after game after game, it's easy to get jaded, and that might be what's happening here. Or, maybe some people just wanted a totally different take on RE than what RE6 provided—I know that, as a longtime Silent Hill fan, I hated Shattered Memories for that very reason.

I would absolutely beg people to not write off RE6 due to these reviews. Yes, it has flaws, but when I allowed myself to look past those flaws and really consider what kind of experience I was having while playing the game, RE6 was far and away one of the bright spots of the year for me. I said earlier in the thread that I think RE6 is a far better Resident Evil game than RE4 was, and I stand behind that opinion.

And, to be clear, I hated every bit of RE5 that I played.

Oh okay, people need to "allow themselves to look past flaws."

That's a funny new phrase for self-delusion, but all right.
 
If only people didn't buy Resident Evil 4 and call it amazing. Maybe Resident Evil would have gone back to being a survival horror game and not action extravaganza where every game has to out-do the previous in terms of set pieces.

Resident Evil 4 is an amazing game because it took the survival horror formula and turned it on its head. It still had exploration and puzzle solving, but now you had to be much quicker on your feet because your enemies weren't slow-moving putzes any longer, and the same strategy (blast the crap out of anything that moves) didn't work on all of them.

RE5 took that formula, removed the puzzle elements, upped the action, and added co-op.

RE6 took the RE5 formula, threw it out the window, and made some strange Gears/CoD hybrid with zombies.

Edit: Better than Resident Evil 4 Shidoshi? That's lofty praise.
 

Tagg9

Member
Looks like Conan was about right with his 35% score, haha.

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sixghost

Member
The mechanics are laid out in a way that I can't imagine Jeff liking it at all. I'm going to say the "structure" doesn't matter in comparison.

I meant because it's less survival horror, more of a set piece based shooter. I worded that weirdly.
 

Sectus

Member

Oh okay. For a minute I thought the typical gameplay in most 3rd person shooters was hiding behind cover waiting for enemies to reload. My bad.

I'd have to forgive someone for thinking the first few minutes look boring as shit.

On the other hand, when I first saw footage of RE4, it didn't look that exciting either. Now it's a favorite of mine. It's always true that you can evaluate a game better by playing it than by seeing it, but that's more true of some games than others. Maybe RE6 is one of them.

I probably should have skipped a few minutes into the video. It's the first mercs stage so it starts off very slow, but it doesn't take long to become hectic.
 

theDeeDubs

Member
Reviews are about what I expected. It will not sway me from my purchase though. I really liked the demo, personally. I do not like the QTEs and I couldn't objectionally call this a good game from a purely mechanical standpoint, but I still find something about it enjoyable in spite of it. It is bloated and not up to snuff with what I would consider the standard baseline for an acceptable TPS in gameplay mechanics in this generation, but I still like it. Just, please, remove the QTEs for 7.
 

Hindle

Banned
It's good to see the press think sensibly when reviewing a game, now apply to all the other games and games journalism may get some crediability.
 

Nert

Member
The outlets that I tend to follow are claiming that the game is middling to bad (Edge, Eurogamer, Giantbomb, 1UP), while the outlets that I tend to avoid completely are calling it an excellent game (Game Informer, Famitsu, a bunch of other websites I haven't heard of). I wasn't really interested in buying this game anyways (despite my love for Resident Evil 4), but this pretty much confirms it.
 

Derrick01

Banned
what has happened here:

- anti-japanese sentiment has reached a tipping point in western press
- capcom are an acceptable developer to criticise due to their mixed business practices
- the game is bloated and excessive, but it's also difficult and has a steep learning curve

consequently, re6 becomes the perfect target to;

a. prove journalistic integrity by tearing down an AAA title
b. slaughter a hugely popular japanese brand with a sound 'motive'

reality: re6 still contains more imagination and innovation than most (if not all) AAA western games.

You sound like an expert
 

jdforge

Banned
This game kind of sounds like everything I hated about RE5 on steroids... Sucks real hard. At least I'll always have Revelations though. I love that game so much.

Revelations is a land mark entry for the franchise. It's simply superb. Are you still playing raid mode?
 

Effect

Member
It was on the wrong (type of) platform for the intended audience, sadly.

Well it didn't help that Capcom did nothing to advertise it. Pretty much sent it to die. It just had a second or two in a ad that was advertising the 3DS in general. Also in some areas instead of having TV ads for it Capcom decided to actually undercut it by airing ads for Resident Evil 6. Yes people they aired ads for RE6 that far in advance. I still play RE:R and I want more of that. However I'm not touching RE6 even if it does come to the Wii U at a later date.
 

MormaPope

Banned
Resident Evil 5 was a reskinned and inferior version of Resident Evil 4, so it still had elements that made it a focused and polished action game. The jump from Resident Evil 4 to Resident Evil 6 is like The Godfather part one compared to The Godfather part three, it's extremely jarring.
 

ThatObviousUser

ὁ αἴσχιστος παῖς εἶ
Resident Evil 4 is an amazing game because it took the survival horror formula and turned it on its head. It still had exploration and puzzle solving, but now you had to be much quicker on your feet because your enemies weren't slow-moving putzes any longer, and the same strategy (blast the crap out of anything that moves) didn't work on all of them.

RE5 took that formula, removed the puzzle elements, upped the action, and added co-op.

RE6 took the RE5 formula, threw it out the window, and made some strange Gears/CoD hybrid with zombies.

Exactly.

:bow ShoNuff :bow

I don't think that gag works as well when she pointed that out on her own. Just saying.

Yeah. :(
 

Foffy

Banned
Without an alarming "definitely don't believe the hype" review from any Aussies here with the game-I'm seriously considering canceling my preorder for this on 360. It sounds like a schizophrenic game that doesn't know what it's supposed to be and does not do any one part well.

Cancel preorder and get dishonoured? Haha

What do you guys/gals who have it think?

Get what interests you most. If you want to give RE6 a try for yourself, please do. If you have opinions of the game based on the demo that match or are even more expanded upon in bad reviews, maybe that's a sign the game isn't something for you.
 
so they took the bad from all the other games and threw it at a wall hoping it sticks.

they really gotta wake the eff up with RE series.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
I'm saying that, because I've actually played RE6, and I unequivocally loved my time with it. Sometimes when you review game after game after game, it's easy to get jaded, and that might be what's happening here. Or, maybe some people just wanted a totally different take on RE than what RE6 provided—I know that, as a longtime Silent Hill fan, I hated Shattered Memories for that very reason.

I would absolutely beg people to not write off RE6 due to these reviews. Yes, it has flaws, but when I allowed myself to look past those flaws and really consider what kind of experience I was having while playing the game, RE6 was far and away one of the bright spots of the year for me. I said earlier in the thread that I think RE6 is a far better Resident Evil game than RE4 was, and I stand behind that opinion.

And, to be clear, I hated every bit of RE5 that I played.

-Thinks Frankenstein's monster of a game is "better RE" than critically acclaimed masterpiece.

-Has extreme hate for RE5 despite it being a mediocre version of the aforementioned masterpiece.

Sounds like your opinion is well-calibrated and I should definitely listen to you.

(Unfortunately, I am still getting the game in the mail tomorrow. I'm not going to forgive if it half of it is dogshit, though.)
 

KissVibes

Banned
Oh please.

RE4 was more action oriented than previous games but it was just as subtle, with just as much attention to detail and atmosphere if not more so. RE5 took the wrong lessons and emphasized the wrong things from RE4, and that's not RE4's fault. It's RE5's.

Resident Evil 4 is what started this supposed mess, Andrew. If people had given it shit for nudging the franchise in the wrong direction, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil 6 would have been truer to what die hard fans want from the series.

Now it's too late and I think instead of lambasting Capcom for the natural progression, those that want "classic RE" should embrace action Resident Evil or completely ignore action Resident Evil and hope when Capcom reboots the series next gen that they go back to basics or that they (or another studios) creates the survival horror game desired. Visceral got close with Dead Space but that too has gone action because that's where the money is, apparently.

Now personally, I don't care because I liked Resident Evil 5 for being a really big Japanese action game with high production values. I think Japanese action games, when made well are the best kind and as RE6 looks stupidly crazy, bombastic, and has a lot of content I'm going to play it and probably love it.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'm saying that, because I've actually played RE6, and I unequivocally loved my time with it. Sometimes when you review game after game after game, it's easy to get jaded, and that might be what's happening here. Or, maybe some people just wanted a totally different take on RE than what RE6 provided—I know that, as a longtime Silent Hill fan, I hated Shattered Memories for that very reason.

I would absolutely beg people to not write off RE6 due to these reviews. Yes, it has flaws, but when I allowed myself to look past those flaws and really consider what kind of experience I was having while playing the game, RE6 was far and away one of the bright spots of the year for me. I said earlier in the thread that I think RE6 is a far better Resident Evil game than RE4 was, and I stand behind that opinion.

And, to be clear, I hated every bit of RE5 that I played.

It's not going to do good here I'm afraid. Most of the people actually playing it right now are in agreement it seems, but I understand why a lot of people would write the game off after a reception like this. The problem is I feel this game is what I'm calling a flawed gem. I know a lot of people are going to say I'm a rabid fan or blasphemous for saying this, but I thought of while playing the game it likened to something like Deadly Premonition, or God Hand, or MadWorld. It is a flawed gem that has just that, flaws, but behind its flaws there is actually quite a bit of fun to be had.

I think this game is superior to RE5 in every way besides balance. But it has a much stronger single player with improved AI, a much better co-op experience. I even think Mercenaries is a lot more fun. But for now I am guessing people are going to jump on this bandwagon no matter what the people actually playing/have played it say/think. Games like this usually don't get appreciated until later.
 

Eidan

Member
Resident Evil 5 was a reskinned and inferior version of Resident Evil 4, so it still had elements that made it a focused and polished action game. The jump from Resident Evil 4 to Resident Evil 6 is like The Godfather part one compared to The Godfather part three, it's extremely jarring.

RE5 was RE4 without the awful puzzles. Which means it's a superior version of RE4.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I... Think I'll still buy the game before I can conclude if it's a decent game or not. I don't really read and trust critics' stuff 100% though.

I had a lot of fun with Star Ocean 4 though, even if it got a general score of 70%.
 
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