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[Aostia]

Which was the previous series-best debut for Animal Crossing?

The DS one ws arond 360K if I remember correctly

 

[donny2112]

First week sales with sellthrough, nothing compares to this.

If I was a subscriber Media Create

If you were a subscriber to Famitsu, you'd be getting 1st day sell-through along with 1st week sell-through.

Oh, yeah.

 

[allan-bh]

I sent an email to Media Create to clarify once for all about download cards, and received this answer:

Hello,

I am PR of media create co., Lte.
Thank you for your question.
The cards are not included in total software number.

Yours Sincerely,

Mayumi Imai

 

[Michan]

Wii U display at Shibuya's Tsutaya:

Animal Crossing, at the front of the games section as you enter by escalator:

They're all sold out of packaged copies and download cards! This seems to be a universal problem around Tokyo. While beside this display, 5 people came by looking for the game. Trade-in value is extremely high (just shy of ¥4000), but according to a staff member, they haven't had a single copy traded in yet.

After much hunting, we managed to find 3 download cards in a remote 7-Eleven:

 

[Kazerei]

Damn, even download cards went out of stock? You'd think Nintendo would be able to print more of them quickly and easily.

 

[Michan]

By the way, 7-Eleven seems to be the cheapest place to buy it – ¥4,480 for the download card.

 

[Jackano]

It's pretty crazy people hunt for the download cards too.
They basically just have to connect their 3DS and buy the game if they really want... I guess it will take some time before Japan begin to like digital buys.

 

[test_account]

Those quotes are hilarious. Really, it's nice to see the Vita fail just for crow eating reasons. It's sad to see the Vita fail so badly as it is actually a good Sony console, typical we copy last gen Nintendo and make it better and more expensive.

No idea if the Vita deserves better sales. But it sure deserves better fanboys who actually buy the thing and not just brag about how it is "superior" to the 3DS. Which actually moves forward and does new things.

Do you mean the 3DS or the Vita that moves forward and does new things?

I think you meant the freezer.

Wouldnt that indicate more that it has been put on ice? I think the game was delayed to improve the developement, not that it is ready and is waiting to be released.

 

[saichi]

Vita isn't going to be killed off now. You'll first see them reducing the price dramatically to see if that saves the system. Before they do that, they're going to see if PSN+ incentives reinvigorate sales. We'll know within a week or two how that's going.

I never understand this. How can a service asking the users to pay more after purchasing the hardware be a good selling point for VITA?

 

[frankie_baby]

It's pretty crazy people hunt for the download cards too.
They basically just have to connect their 3DS and buy the game if they really want... I guess it will take some time before Japan begin to like digital buys.

Buying games directly from the eshop costs more money

 

[test_account]

I never understand this. How can a service asking the users to pay more after purchasing the hardware be a good selling point for VITA?

PS+ is unified with PS3. If you have PS+, you get all the offers on PS3 and Vita.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

COME FORWARD, CONCERN TROLLS

Let us serve you your crow. It is sauteed with a lovely side of third party games (tapas).

We're gonna have two viable handhelds in the same gen

Don't forget that Sony has learned a lot of lessons from PSP. For one thing PSP had PS2 ports with an extremely watered down experience (no second analog stick, less power, etc). Vita will be better.

At this price theres one thing that is certain, the PSV has already won Japan. The only question is in the west now.

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[Sammy Samusu]

LOL @ Tsutaya trying to get rid of AC DS/Wii.

Looking forward to MC Top 50.

 

[Michan]

Buying games directly from the eshop costs more money

Not to mention you don't get a little trinket for your shelves.

 

[Kazerei]

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To be fair, everyone assumed the Vita would get the same level of third party support as the PSP, or better. Most of the stuff shown in January 2011 and E3 2011 evaporated though. MonHun Portable 3rd, videos of MGS4 and other games running on NGP, Call of Duty Vita, Bioshock Vita ... well COD actually happened, but we assumed it would be good.

 

[Li Kao]

It's pretty crazy people hunt for the download cards too.
They basically just have to connect their 3DS and buy the game if they really want... I guess it will take some time before Japan begin to like digital buys.

Hnn, but how do the download card is presented in the first place ? Is it an elaborated illustration on a 'good' plastic ?
As it seems pretty evident, I have next to no knowledge on the subject, but I seem to recall asking myself why on earth do games sometimes come with a phone card and learning that the japanese gamers do not use them but keep them as collectables.
If the download card is comparable quality-wise, then maybe it becomes a part of the collection, and explain the appeal ?

 

[xxbrothawizxx63]

Tried for half an hour, didn´t get it to download.

So I went by Gamedatamuseum and arrived at:
3DS 17,500,598 games / 8,025,672 hw for a 2.18:1 attach rate
PSV 1,431,121 games / 985,048 hw for a 1.45:1 attach rate
as of Nov 14th.

Do these numbers seem right?

Proabably a different situation in the West...

If only the software quality and quantity in NA/EU was anywhere near that of the US.

Honestly, that attach rate seems really low though...

 

[ohlawd]

are the links broken? Can't see.

 

[guek]

To be fair, everyone assumed the Vita would get the same level of third party support as the PSP, or better. Most of the stuff shown in January 2011 and E3 2011 evaporated though. MonHun Portable 3rd, videos of MGS4 and other games running on NGP, Call of Duty Vita, Bioshock Vita ... well COD actually happened, but we assumed it would be good.

I think the thing is people assumed Japanese devs, the cornerstone of handheld success, wanted to move on from PS2 era visuals. Japanese devs this past gen declined significantly in the console space but thrived on DS/PSP, in large part because that's where they wanted to be. It seems that Japanese devs just love that level of power for some reason. It runs completely counter-intuitive to western thought, but I think it's possible that the 3DS' weaker hardware was actually a selling point for eastern devs.

I think it's hard to quantify or find concrete evidence for this aside from the relatively large amount of PSP support in the wake after the Vita's launch, but that's my theory.

 

[Father_Brain]

I think the thing is people assumed Japanese devs, the cornerstone of handheld success, wanted to move on from PS2 era visuals. Japanese devs this past gen declined significantly in the console space but thrived on DS/PSP, in large part because that's where they wanted to be. It seems that Japanese devs just love that level of power for some reason. It runs completely counter-intuitive to western thought, but I think it's possible that the 3DS' weaker hardware was actually a selling point for eastern devs.

I'd say that PS2-esque visual fidelity translates to the ideal budget range for most titles aimed primarily at the Japanese market. Even on PS3, there's no shortage of original titles that look only slightly better than uprezzed PS2 titles; there are JP-centric PS3 titles that look better than that (Musou titles, Yakuza) but nothing that I'd exactly call a technical showcase for the platform.

 

[Hobby]

New Super Mario Bros. limited edition 3DS XL unboxing:

More pics here:
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2012/11/15/61420.html

And new pre-paid card for eShop featuring Pokemon Mystery Dungeon artwork going on sale on 11/17.

http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2012/11/15/61402.html

 

[Mpl90]

Proabably a different situation in the West...

If only the software quality and quantity in NA/EU was anywhere near that of the US.

Honestly, that attach rate seems really low though...

But given we've seen so many third party titles selling really well on 3DS this year in Japan, do we need tie ratios for understanding software situation? Not counting it'll improve a lot during following weeks.

 

[Chris1964]

If you were a subscriber to Famitsu, you'd be getting 1st day sell-through along with 1st week sell-through.

Oh, yeah.

Media Create gives that too. But

top 100 vs. top 50

 

[Road]

Media Create does a weekly top 300, actually. Must be interesting to look at the bottom positions.

But, in a hypothetical world where I have enough money to subscribe, I'd probably go with Enterbrain's f-ism (for all the current + historical data). I don't know if Media Create has a similar web accessible database.

But in our real poor world, we do have more Famitsu data available. Media Create has published white papers since 1998, being a top 500 since 2000 (Famitsu only started with them in 2004), so it's not like the data doesn't exist out there somewhere.

are the links broken? Can't see.

Broken for anyone else? I guess something is blocking min.us on your end.

I sent an email to Media Create to clarify once for all about download cards, and received this answer:

Hello,

I am PR of media create co., Lte.
Thank you for your question.
The cards are not included in total software number.

Yours Sincerely,

Mayumi Imai

Thanks. I was thinking of doing the same.

 

[allan-bh]

Animal Crossing- 96,09% sell through (Media Create)

There's a number (33k) about Animal Crossing that I couldn't understand. Maybe bundle?

 

[Nekki]

96% ST has to be one of the higher numbers i've seen around. My god what a powerful title.

 

[RPGamer92]

Nintendo's probably now gonna want Animal Crossing out for Wii U asap lol.

 

[MasterSheen]

Nintendo's probably now gonna want Animal Crossing out for Wii U asap lol.

It's doubtful that would be anywhere near as popular as New Leaf game.

 

[ohlawd]

Broken for anyone else? I guess something is blocking min.us on your end.

It's weird but I can see them now. Thanks if you did something

and yeah holy cow @ the Bravely Default vs Kid Icarus sales.

 

[Alrus]

I would never have expected Animal Crossing would end up having the biggest opening yet for the 3DS (won't hold it for long but still), I always saw those titles as slow-burns. It's pretty amazing how great Nintendo handheld the promo for this one. I'm not a huge AC fan and I really want this one. Considering the sell through, the drop might be pretty big next week unless Nintendo restocks it really fast, it will still probably cross the million anyway.

 

[MasterSheen]

I would never have expected Animal Crossing would end up having the biggest opening yet for the 3DS (won't hold it for long but still), I always saw those titles as slow-burns. It's pretty amazing how great Nintendo handheld the promo for this one. I'm not a huge AC fan and I really want this one. Considering the sell through, the drop might be pretty big next week unless Nintendo restocks it really fast, it will still probably cross the million anyway.

They said they were going to ship 300k copies(don't know if this includes download cards or not) this week, will get there in Famitsu at least.

 

[king zell]

Assassin’s Creed III (this week biggest release)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111610/

Assassin’s Creed III: Liberation can it help?

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111603/

Japan wont wait for the official Call of Duty: Black Ops II releases!

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111599/

New Super Mario Bros. 2 bundle hits Japan

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111596/

Animal Crossing: New Leaf back in stock

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111591/

new VITA colores (red & blue)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111587/

more releases for the week

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111577/

 

[LOCK]

Actual game innovation leads to franchise sales records, whodathunkit!

 

[Exterminieren]

This makes me remember that Nintendo originally planned for an initial shipment of 200K, and laugh.

Animal Crossing has got to have exceeded even their best expectations. It's going to be massive all holiday and into next year.

 

[nextgeneration]

It's gonna be really interesting to see how Animal Crossing sells during the holidays.

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

more releases for the week

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/111577/

What's the difference between this Monster Hunter 3DS and the one in Famitsu tOp 30 this week??

 

[test_account]

This makes me remember that Nintendo originally planned for an initial shipment of 200K, and laugh.

Animal Crossing has got to have exceeded even their best expectations. It's going to be massive all holiday and into next year.

I wonder why Nintendo had such a low shipment to begin with concidering that the DS game sold over 5 million copies. Maybe they thought it would have a slower opening and contunie to sell steady for a long, long time. Imagine if MH4 would ship for example 200k to 500k in the first week when MHP3rd sold nearly 5 million copies.

What's the difference between this Monster Hunter 3DS and the one in Famitsu tOp 30 this week??

Best Price version, a re-release that cost less money. It is equivalent to Platinum/Greatest Hits versions.

 

[vareon]

Actual game innovation leads to franchise sales records, whodathunkit!

The latest Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing, both featuring significant changes from the previous entry, shows great result (for AC so far, at least) and New Super Mario Bros 2 (which looks the same, not to undermine the good game underneath) performs lower than the previous.

Surely this means something.

 

[muu]

It's pretty crazy people hunt for the download cards too.
They basically just have to connect their 3DS and buy the game if they really want... I guess it will take some time before Japan begin to like digital buys.

You can't do what you don't know.
Stores may explain how the whole download code thing works because it makes them as much money as a physical copy, but this isn't true for the eshop cards... So they just don't say anything unless asked. The idea that you can actually buy full games from the store is therefore foreign to a great many people, especially more casual players.

 

[Allan Holdsworth]

What's the difference between this Monster Hunter 3DS and the one in Famitsu tOp 30 this week??

The one from Famitsu is the pre-installed one that comes in the 3DS LL bundle. Media Create counts it too but they combine it with the original release.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

I wonder why Nintendo had such a low shipment to begin with concidering that the DS game sold over 5 million copies. Maybe they thought it would have a slower opening and contunie to sell steady for a long, long time. Imagine if MH4 would ship for example 200k to 500k in the first week when MHP3rd sold nearly 5 million copies.



Best Price version, a re-release that cost less money. It is equivalent to Platinum/Greatest Hits versions.

Probably they just assumed that almost every major 3DS title that was big on the DS had significant decline so AC would follow that pattern. Especially after that huge drop off for City Folk. I wonder with these numbers if Japan is telling Nintendo that AC is more of a handheld franchise like Pokemon given sales of the console entries versus the handheld entries.

 

[MasterSheen]

Hope the new Friend Collection does well too.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I wonder why Nintendo had such a low shipment to begin with concidering that the DS game sold over 5 million copies. Maybe they thought it would have a slower opening and contunie to sell steady for a long, long time. Imagine if MH4 would ship for example 200k to 500k in the first week when MHP3rd sold nearly 5 million copies.

Probably wanted to push digital sales but then thought better of doing it at the expense of regular sales.

 

[Rarity]

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If you don't mind my asking, what thread(s) are these from?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

If you don't mind my asking, what thread(s) are these from?

Vita price announcement thread.

Apparently there's a thread just for the Vita's performance this week so these should probably go there. *shrug*

 

[Busaiku]

Digital sales of NSMB2 are low and those who are made with download cards are a part of them.

I don't expect Animal Crossing numbers, but there's no way they can be that low.
There's only a 4k difference.

 

[zroid]

Vita price announcement thread.

Apparently there's a thread just for the Vita's performance this week so these should probably go there. *shrug*

I would looooove to see a survey of the posters in that thread and learn how many followed through and bought it on day one, or at all.

And among those who didn't, I'd like to know how many were specifically deterred by the memory card fiasco.

This system is so fucking glorious it is going to be a real shame watching it get steamrolled into oblivion

Y---yeah.

 

[Rarity]

Vita price announcement thread.

Apparently there's a thread just for the Vita's performance this week so these should probably go there. *shrug*

Thanks, that's quite the read.

 

[Kazerei]

This system is so fucking glorious it is going to be a real shame watching it get steamrolled into oblivion

Y---yeah.

So good :')

 

[Rock_Man]

I don't expect Animal Crossing numbers, but there's no way they can be that low.
There's only a 4k difference.

It's not uncommon MC tracks a game 10% higher than Famitsu. That would mean a 130k difference. You can't draw any conclusions about the download sales by comparing two different trackers when download sales are relatively low.