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FyreWulff

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wait wait wait

what if they saved Halo CE MP is for the Xbox 720 in 2013, it's been so many years now that people will think it's a "new multiplayer" with features like timed weapons, arena maps, and powerups on the battlefield.

It'd be more likely to be Halo 2 since CE isn't going online 1:1 without making lockstep. Halo 2 was actually designed around being online, and would be the more viable one to bring back as an online title.
 

:( - I really like Halo PC, I am tempted to get back on it while I can.

As far as I can remember the game is still going strong, it would be a shame for the plug to get pulled.

Also - I used to use Bungie.net a lot between matches. With Waypoint I dont even want that open in a background tab in case it eats up bandwidth. Any chance we can get a light, easy to load, low bandwidth static stats site please 343? It would be great for people who use low end PC's too.
 

Enfinit

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wait wait wait

what if they saved Halo CE MP is for the Xbox 720 in 2013, it's been so many years now that people will think it's a "new multiplayer" with features like timed weapons, arena maps, and powerups on the battlefield.

Shut your whore mouth you tease.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Very sad.

This game's online structure outclassed the rest of the games by a dwarven mile.

Not really.

The lag was so bad it was turned into a skill in the game. You needed to know what pings corresponded to how much you had to lead your shots. Host had the biggest advantage EVER. Didn't have to lead at all.

There was also never any standard settings in a purely server browser game. But I didn't really care since I mainly played hugeass, then coldsnap when it was released, and bloodgulch games.
 
Now that I am going through specializations I am starting to get bugged by the fact that all the weapons including the skins all display on one long list. Its the same with the armours.

Its not the end of the world, but it just makes it hard to keep track of stuff - why not make it so that if you choose a weapon/ armour, if there is a skin it says something like 'press X to change skin'. Having all that stuff put away in sub menu's would make things less cluttered.
 
:( - I really like Halo PC, I am tempted to get back on it while I can.

As far as I can remember the game is still going strong, it would be a shame for the plug to get pulled.

Also - I used to use Bungie.net a lot between matches. With Waypoint I dont even want that open in a background tab in case it eats up bandwidth. Any chance we can get a light, easy to load, low bandwidth static stats site please 343? It would be great for people who use low end PC's too.

The waypoint stat layout is simply atrocious. If they had an API I guarantee any of the devs in the community would build a better site within a week.

Now that I am going through specializations I am starting to get bugged by the fact that all the weapons including the skins all display on one long list. Its the same with the armours.

Its not the end of the world, but it just makes it hard to keep track of stuff - why not make it so that if you choose a weapon/ armour, if there is a skin it says something like 'press X to change skin'. Having all that stuff put away in sub menu's would make things less cluttered.

They either got really lazy with that or had no time to properly do skins. Skins SHOULD be a second level when you select a weapon.
 
Just played a quick game of Halo PC again after a long while - anyone who missed out should at least check out the trial version. Game is still going strong and is still amazing. I can see myself getting back into it.

I really hope the plug doesn't get pulled. The netcode is atrocious but I kind of feel like I will be getting games in it better than I am with Halo 3!
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'm watching people try to play competitively on that crappy mech map.

Rest. In. Peace. Halo.

I keep saying this, but it never stops being pertinent.

Halo is becoming Gears 3. Everything is playing out exactly the same. GOW 3 tournies looked exactly like that.
 

RdN

Member
Seriously, FUCK the netcode in this game. FUCK!

I've been trying, but it's impossible to play.. I can't get ONE match with good latency. It's like 343 took everything that worked in Reach's netcode and threw it into the garbage.

Never been this frustrated with a game netcode since Halo 3.. It takes away all my will to play.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
I'm watching people try to play competitively on that crappy mech map.

Rest. In. Peace. Halo.

I watched it an hour ago or so and the commentators went on how good changes like the new weapon spawns are and how bad it was that the modders tried to remove sprint etc ..
I was disturbed and closed the stream, regretting I gave them views
 
Even if it had a server browser and dedis?

Halo 2 Anniversary!

Press release: We are bringing back the classic 4 shot kill hitscan BR, this is a gift to long term Halo fans and we want them to enjoy it on dedi's and have full access to server browsers. For the first time ever play through the Halo 2 campaign online and play our re-invisioning of Firefight! Dedicated servers are sure to make the matches play buttery smooth and the server browser will allow players to find amazing custom firefight variants. For the first time drop in drop out at your leisure whilst fighting the covenant war machine with join in progress!

*- multiplayer not included.
 
Yeah, it's a great system in an ideal world with an infinite population (even a large one would be an improvement at this point).

Good thing that every gametype can support an entire playlist's worth of population and won't ever have any problem sticking aro-

*King of the Hill currently sitting at 1.9% total population*

"We're removing King of the Hill. It'll be back maybe someday."

Oh.
It's still fine though. It's the least popular objective gametype and it's currently sitting at over 2,000. That is well more than the objective playlists in Halo 3 and Reach.

343's decision to remove it doesn't make much sense IMO.
We aren't seeing many unsubstantial changes though. The only things we are getting are new playlists (one at a time) and some small fixes (Which are sometimes caused by said fixes). Where are my objective gamemodes in BTB? Team doubles? Multi Team? These are all substantial parts of Halo imo.

Though 343 hasn't really screwed anything up big time with their updates, they haven't really done anything big either.

The kind of matchmaking strategy that 343 is employing is based around matchmaking providing the core experience much more than the strategy that Bungie used.

It's not perfect, but Bungie's MM experience was never close to anything resembling that either.

-Doubles: What maps are you going to put doubles on? Doubles should be added at some point as a rotational playlist, and it's probably one of the few situations that I think forge maps are a good idea.
-Multi-Team: Fringe. I'd like to see it at some point as a rotational, but not core IMO.
-BTB objective: I'd like to see it as well. Sadly, you know who doesn't want to see it? The majority of matchmaking. (hopefully we will at some point though).

Those are the three big complaints that I keep hearing about H4's playlists. Minuscule compared to the list when Bungie's games came out that were miles long.

As for the updates, we've already had four updates to matchmaking, we'd have one at this point with Bungie's Halo games.


This isn't a 343 > Bungie post, but in this specific area, I think 343 has learned from Bungie's mistakes with past Halo games, and has done a much better job so far.
 
Seriously, FUCK the netcode in this game. FUCK!

I've been trying, but it's impossible to play.. I can't get ONE match with good latency. It's like 343 took everything that worked in Reach's netcode and threw it into the garbage.

Never been this frustrated with a game netcode since Halo 3.. It takes away all my will to play.

aaaand I think we've gone full circle
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Seriously, FUCK the netcode in this game. FUCK!

I've been trying, but it's impossible to play.. I can't get ONE match with good latency. It's like 343 took everything that worked in Reach's netcode and threw it into the garbage.

Never been this frustrated with a game netcode since Halo 3.. It takes away all my will to play.

Y U MAD doe.
 

Tawpgun

Member
The best part was that one shot of 3 blue guys bunched up looking at the sticky det waiting for someone to walk into the open to get it.
 

Nowise10

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Seriously, FUCK the netcode in this game. FUCK!

I've been trying, but it's impossible to play.. I can't get ONE match with good latency. It's like 343 took everything that worked in Reach's netcode and threw it into the garbage.

Never been this frustrated with a game netcode since Halo 3.. It takes away all my will to play.

I feel like when people blame the netcode, they have know idea what they are talking about and just say netcode because they heard someone say it before.
 

orznge

Banned
I feel like when people blame the netcode, they have know idea what they are talking about and just say netcode because they heard someone say it before.

I feel it's likely that, in an FPS that's played peer-to-peer in a large place like the US, people's complaints about an netcode aren't unfounded.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Ninja is slupring Halo so hard.

Teammate with flag dies, and the flag gets thrown into another teammate who was covering him with a SNIPER. Dude picks up the flag due to auto pick up.

Ninja: SEE ALL YOU GUYS THINKING THATS A BROKEN MECHANIC THATS NOT BROKEN THATS STRATEGY IF YOU'RE WEAK WITH THE FLAG DON'T GO NEAR A FRIEND WITH A POWER WEAPON
 
Ninja is slupring Halo so hard.

Teammate with flag dies, and the flag gets thrown into another teammate who was covering him with a SNIPER. Dude picks up the flag due to auto pick up.

Ninja: SEE ALL YOU GUYS THINKING THATS A BROKEN MECHANIC THATS NOT BROKEN THATS STRATEGY IF YOU'RE WEAK WITH THE FLAG DON'T GO NEAR A FRIEND WITH A POWER WEAPON

He is adapting well...
 

op_ivy

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I feel like when people blame the netcode, they have know idea what they are talking about and just say netcode because they heard someone say it before.

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yeah, its that time.
 
Ninja is slupring Halo so hard.

Teammate with flag dies, and the flag gets thrown into another teammate who was covering him with a SNIPER. Dude picks up the flag due to auto pick up.

Ninja: SEE ALL YOU GUYS THINKING THATS A BROKEN MECHANIC THATS NOT BROKEN THATS STRATEGY IF YOU'RE WEAK WITH THE FLAG DON'T GO NEAR A FRIEND WITH A POWER WEAPON

Did he really say that? He wasn't joking?
Is Ninja some kind of parody character?
 

RdN

Member
Where are you based?

I know myself and others based in the UK have been having a lot of connection problems.

Exactly.. a lot of people here just say "the netcode is fine", but they live in the US, where most of the userbase is and problems with distance and latency are less frequent.

The problem is for us outside the US.. I feel like 343 completely disregarded this factor.
 
Exactly.. a lot of people here just say "the netcode is fine", but they live in the US, where most of the userbase is and problems with distance and latency are less frequent.

The problem is for us outside the US.. I feel like 343 completely disregarded this factor.

This is where I feel like a public beta is most important. Its great that microsoft did an internal beta, but did they really stress test the game globally? I dont think they did based on how hit and miss the online netcode has been.

BTW I found this sentence funny:

I feel like 343 completely disregarded this factor.

I feel like 343 completely disregarded UK players: perks, double exp, netcode - its almost like they dont want people outside america to play the game lol.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Did he really say that? He wasn't joking?
Is Ninja some kind of parody character?

He REALLY REALLY wants Halo to succeed so his time with Reach wasn't a waste. Again, a Gears 3 comparison, but he's doing exactly what the Gears 3 "pros" were doing trying to keep Gears relevant and on the competitive scene.

Just remember the quote from Ninja about propaganda.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as 343 can shield the people from the AAs, perks and/or competitive consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for 343 to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the Microsoft.” - Ninja Halo 2012
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Ninja is slupring Halo so hard.

Teammate with flag dies, and the flag gets thrown into another teammate who was covering him with a SNIPER. Dude picks up the flag due to auto pick up.

Ninja: SEE ALL YOU GUYS THINKING THATS A BROKEN MECHANIC THATS NOT BROKEN THATS STRATEGY IF YOU'RE WEAK WITH THE FLAG DON'T GO NEAR A FRIEND WITH A POWER WEAPON

didn't he make a video where he tells how to have fun with Halo 4 and that it is great?

He just wants to be the next bravo.
 
He REALLY REALLY wants Halo to succeed so his time with Reach wasn't a waste. Again, a Gears 3 comparison, but he's doing exactly what the Gears 3 "pros" were doing trying to keep Gears relevant and on the competitive scene.

Just remember the quote from Ninja about propaganda.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as 343 can shield the people from the AAs, perks and/or competitive consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for 343 to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the Microsoft.”

Oh wow thats terrible, I would rather the pro's dropped Halo completely. If the competitive factor is gone what is the point in trying to keep that scene alive? I know they have paychecks on the line, but until they make it clear that Halo needs to be better next time round they are always going to get a game that isnt catered to them.

I just cant get over the fact that with that quote he is basically saying "eh, we all know Halo sucks, but lets cover it up to keep this pretence that competitive gameplay still exists!

When did he 'go pro?' if he didnt hit the scene until Halo Reach then he really is a joke character.
 

RdN

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This is where I feel like a public beta is most important. Its great that microsoft did an internal beta, but did they really stress test the game globally? I dont think they did based on how hit and miss the online netcode has been.

BTW I found this sentence funny:



I feel like 343 completely disregarded UK players: perks, double exp, netcode - its almost like they dont want people outside america to play the game lol.

Couldn't agree with you more.
 

Tawpgun

Member
But Bravo didn't try this hard. He had an interesting way of dealing with stuff that annoyed him. ie his Camo Campers video where he treated it like a PSA and showed him beating a camo camper.

Most of his other vids have just been tips and tricks
 
K

kittens

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He REALLY REALLY wants Halo to succeed so his time with Reach wasn't a waste. Again, a Gears 3 comparison, but he's doing exactly what the Gears 3 "pros" were doing trying to keep Gears relevant and on the competitive scene.

Just remember the quote from Ninja about propaganda.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as 343 can shield the people from the AAs, perks and/or competitive consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for 343 to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the Microsoft.” - Ninja Halo 2012
You have to be bullshitting with that quote. I refuse to believe it's real. :lol
 

IHaveIce

Banned
But Bravo didn't try this hard. He had an interesting way of dealing with stuff that annoyed him. ie his Camo Campers video where he treated it like a PSA and showed him beating a camo camper.

Most of his other vids have just been tips and tricks

Yep Bravo didn't slurp that hard. He also said at MLG Dallas what annoys him about the game.
 

Killer

Banned
I feel like when people blame the netcode, they have know idea what they are talking about and just say netcode because they heard someone say it before.

Please enlighten us mr.expert. just because you don't have any issues playing online doesn't mean other people's complaints are invalid.


Exactly.. a lot of people here just say "the netcode is fine", but they live in the US, where most of the userbase is and problems with distance and latency are less frequent.

The problem is for us outside the US.. I feel like 343 completely disregarded this factor.

What makes the problem even bigger is that on their official forum they said they fixed it.

All my friends stopped playing after one week from release. That never happened in any previous halos.
 
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