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After Newtown, Gamer Calls for Online Shooter 'Ceasefire'
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Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
he trained on dynasty warriors
QisTopTier
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Portugeezer
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Good Job Bob
Member
It has a gun in it so you need to show respect! Or something. I'm not sure what the thought process is with this stuff or how this "shows respect".
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
thats what fox news said
Haunted
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I'm not sure if you're serious, but I've followed the news media extensively after this tragedy, and it's got nothing to do with "gun control" or "mental health care" or somesuch nonsense, it's because the shooter was playing violent video games.
The narrative has been pretty clear on that.
edit: can't wait for gamer generations to become older and unite against the next big thing that's ruining our children. "rock music movies comics videogames are the devil!"
plagiarize
Banned
so donate money to the GDA then. more money going from game companies to the politicians is all those going to stop gaming getting the blame for stuff like this. we aren't slandered because of who we really are. we aren't slandered because these people just don't know us.
we're slandered because we're fans of the new entertainment that the people who don't want to get blamed for this can easily blame. it's going to keep happening until a new thing to blame crops up or until a generation that sees gaming as normal starts getting elected.
an online shooter ceasefire... isn't going to do a thing.
there'll still be more actual bullets in existence than required to kill every person on the planet.
and it was written before anyone saw the facts, and reported even after the facts contradicting it came to light. if gaming is to blame, then the news media is to blame for 'publicising' school shootings. they aren't going to blame themselves, so, they very loudly blame gaming.
Portugeezer
Member
COD is extremely realistic.
What does it even mean? The victims are dead they're not going to be aware of this and I doubt their family will have any idea what's going on. It's pointless.
Tylahedras
Banned
And I thought Halo weddings were stupid.
EDIT* Wait Django is getting pushed back? WTF? I will not be brow beaten into "respecting" this media circus. I'm going to find the most violent movie I can and I'm watching it out of spite.
EDIT* Wait Django is getting pushed back? WTF? I will not be brow beaten into "respecting" this media circus. I'm going to find the most violent movie I can and I'm watching it out of spite.
grimshawish
Banned
Yep its basically a minutes silence.
It's true that it's not as effective as closing a gun shop for day, for example. But it's just one (creative) way to show respect. One that gamers can do. It doesn't show that games can change someone to become more violent. We know that's not true.
I'll be joining this, but I won't play any kind of shooter. Online or not.
I'll be joining this, but I won't play any kind of shooter. Online or not.
Not only did the guy not play shooters, he played Mario Party and WoW. Shall we have a cease fire on those today?
NullPointer
Member
Very, by the look of things.
Its just someone trying to be thoughtful. Some here are being very defensive.
Donations to the family are also a great idea.
plagiarize
Banned
alright. I won't play video games for a minute on Friday. happy? obviously if I don't want to pay my respects in the same way you do, I must be jaded. obviously.
It's trying to make some fuss so people maybe donate money to the victims' families.
I just can't seem to understand how people can take these things as "bad", even if they don't think they're such good ideas. I mean, "Seems like an attention grab from the guy to me", holy shit.
Haunted
Member
Absolutely.
I've seen some critical coverage of the media on this misbehaviour, at least. But it's been niche, mostly confined to the political cartoon section in print or other small-time papers. The loud, popular media coverage - as usual - has drowned out the sensible, in-depth treatment of the topic, sadly.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Nope, gotta get that TF2 fix.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Ceasefires don't do shit. Real action on gun control and mental health care from Obama and Congress will
YoYo Switch
Banned
i get paying respects and showing sympathy and all, really, it's a nice thing.
but this type of showboating is completely selfish. dudes and chicks who "write love on her arms" or wear those yellow wristbands or participate in movember or stick a pink ribbon on their car are doing it for all the wrong reasons.
they're only doing it so they can have all the good aspects of being charitable (feeling good about yourself or humanity in general) while doing none of the work. it's selfish
but this type of showboating is completely selfish. dudes and chicks who "write love on her arms" or wear those yellow wristbands or participate in movember or stick a pink ribbon on their car are doing it for all the wrong reasons.
they're only doing it so they can have all the good aspects of being charitable (feeling good about yourself or humanity in general) while doing none of the work. it's selfish
and who's gonna be playing games while the apocalypse is happening
base shagohod
Member
Didn't Gangster Squad get pushed back after the movie theater shooting?
Or was that just them pulling and editing the trailer?
This is obviously the real problem come the end of the week.
plagiarize
Banned
what I don't like about it, is that he's telling me how I should pay respects. a ceasefire only works if EVERYONE ceases fire. what's the news story going to be about this on Friday? how empty would the servers have to be for the news press to not slate us?
now we're going to look bad, because one person tried to get everyone to pay respects in the same exact way.
so yeah, I'm not happy at him trying to call a ceasefire.
evil solrac v3.0
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he played Starcraft and Warcraft.
no I will not put my mouse down until all the gun enthusiasts, "hunters" (because I personally believe that shooting animals desensetizes you more than any game you can play) and the like put their very real guns down for a whole month at the bare minimum. at most these lover sof the second amendment should stop buying guns for a month to show they are sincere.
Live Free or Die
Banned
Because it had nothing to do with video games. If you want to pay respect, send money, a card, or something to the families of the people who died.
Goldenroad
Member
It's this kind of cynical thinking that is really wrong with this world and the youth of today. There is nothing wrong with showing your respect for the recently deceased. There is nothing selfish about wearing a poppy or a yellow ribbon or just taking a moment out of your day to think about a tragedy like this. It it completely disgusting to even accuse people of being selfish for thinking of others. Disgusting. It should actually be bannable. I wonder.
TimeEffect
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Sounds more like a publicity stunt to me.
One has nothing to do with the other.
And you aren't going to get the stone cold gamers who don't give a damn to begin with to participate, meaning the only ones doing this would be people who have already had the opportunity to contemplate the shootings to begin with. I dont need to dedicate a day to that by stopping something unrelated.
One has nothing to do with the other.
And you aren't going to get the stone cold gamers who don't give a damn to begin with to participate, meaning the only ones doing this would be people who have already had the opportunity to contemplate the shootings to begin with. I dont need to dedicate a day to that by stopping something unrelated.
dark_prinny
Banned
Just get your gun control right, and leave fucking games alone.
You know, games DO NOT Kill people.
Guns DO.
What a fucked up world...
You know, games DO NOT Kill people.
Guns DO.
What a fucked up world...
black_vegeta
Member
i loled
CountAntonius
Member
Whoever does this is gonna screw their k/d ratio.
Exactly. No one says you can only do this and nothing else. You are allowed mutiple acts of goodwill.
Someone else brought up sports. Well ESPN stopped people from tweeting certain things. That doesn't mean they feel "guilty" or that sports are responsible somehow.
http://deadspin.com/5968619/in-wake...il-sunday-refrain-from-using-the-word-shooter
Was that necessary? Maybe not. It's just a nice gesture. I don't think the guy organizing the "cease fire" thinks he's going to have monumental impact with this. It's a gesture that costs zero money. I'm not condemning anyone for playing shooters on Friday but I don't think it's a big deal for me to just take a day off.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Disagree - you know that one of the more stupid news networks will pick this up as a tacit nod to people knowing there's an issue. So yes - i think this would seen as "yeah, we sort of know there's a problem" even if that is not the intention.
YoYo Switch
Banned
look, i said i was all for thinking of others and showing respect. you don't think i'm horrified by what happened?
im just saying from what i've observed in my lifetime is that movements like this are just designed to be trendy as fuck with no genuine consideration for what actually happened.
in that sense, i'm with you, we should be paying our respects, but doing it in such a grand standy "look at how empathetic we are" way is the opposite of paying respects. it's spitting on their grave while stroking one's ego.
if we really wanted to make a difference, we'd call congressman, we'd protest. America was built on radical change and the voice of the people. being passive about it and ignoring the real issue is not the right thing to do.
plagiarize
Banned
right. doing this to try to improve the public image of gaming is really fucking shitty.
Dark Octave
Banned
Let's ask for movies that show a gun in a single scene or more to not play on friday and for gun shops and ranges to close on friday as well.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Can I still clobber people with my riot shield? That's my main at the moment.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Take away guns and they'll just use knives and bombs. Useless.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
If that REALLY is part of the notion - that this is to improve the public image of gaming - at a time like this? then THAT -really- is fucking shitty.
In that case YoYo is right - this is exactly what he says it is. And yeah, how about doing something that actually means something if it's going to be a grand gesture. For go a video game and send the $50 to a combined charity. Or protest gun laws, medical health support levels, etc.
To me an online ceasefire would just be further evidence as to how detached from reality gamers are, though i'm sure the intentions behind it are largely good.
MisterC20XX
Member
I fully support moments of silence, showing respects and demonstrations of empathy, but the problem I have with this is the idea of calling it a "ceasefire" as if suspending the virtual violence of online shooters somehow brings about a respectful, momentary peace or an absence of "something" related to the problem. What happens the next day? Can people just go back to shooting other gamers' avatars in the face with a sniper rifle and burying tomahawks into virtual skulls? Aren't there already enough nonsense theories trying to connect video games and real-world violence? Want to make a real difference? How about calling for people to skip one of their $60 game purchases this Christmas and donate the money to the Red Cross instead? That would never work because "sacrifice" on the behalf of others is meaningless if it's not accompanied by some sense of real giving and personal loss, and sadly too many people want to "show support" by doing absolutely nothing.
NullPointer
Member
So god damned cynical.
So if a violent movie moves its release date that's a tacit admission of guilt? And when Motorstorm Apocalypse delayed its release because of the tsunami in Japan, that was an admission of guilt or a marketing ploy?
Grow up, seriously. Just don't do it if you think its useless or beneath you, but some of the reasoning here is crazy. Its a simple gesture and doesn't have to represent everything in the world.
We're talking about one day where you don't celebrate headshots and kill/death ratios, out of respect for the events and the families and those lost. It makes sense whether the killer had anything to do with gaming or not.
So if a violent movie moves its release date that's a tacit admission of guilt? And when Motorstorm Apocalypse delayed its release because of the tsunami in Japan, that was an admission of guilt or a marketing ploy?
Grow up, seriously. Just don't do it if you think its useless or beneath you, but some of the reasoning here is crazy. Its a simple gesture and doesn't have to represent everything in the world.
We're talking about one day where you don't celebrate headshots and kill/death ratios, out of respect for the events and the families and those lost. It makes sense whether the killer had anything to do with gaming or not.
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