WiiU will sell more in America than Japan as every Nintendo console did.
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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2012 (Dec 10 - Dec 16)
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Smiles and Cries
Member
don't jinx it :3
electroplankton
Banned
Didn't expect the 3DS so high. It won't repeat last year craziness, but it could come close. Anyone has the number of December 2011? Just to compare.
3DS is able to sell games and systems. Vita, on the hand, is a dead corpse... 13k in December? 360 was doing better its second holiday season.
3DS is able to sell games and systems. Vita, on the hand, is a dead corpse... 13k in December? 360 was doing better its second holiday season.
Fixed.
StreetsAhead
Member
Thanks - looks to be a good week, then. Interesting that MC and Famitsu have such a large gap in numbers, though.
ALSO, I think it's time to start admitting that Vita is dead. 14K in December is not the sales of a healthy platform. When your competitor can outsell your year-to-date in two weeks, you've lost the game in a fundamental way.
Looking at last year's numbers, it seems impossible. 3DS will do a bit more next week (between 400 and 500K), but then drop to around 150K on the last week of the year.
Then the first week after New Year sales go up a bit. After that first week of 2013 there is a chance for 10 Million.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Well I wouldn't assume anything, but yes.
I was trying to find a quick list of weekly sales for both, thanks.
gutterboy44
Member
Ugh, these numbers don't bode well for future Vita software. I can't imagine that is going to accelerate the release of FFX HD on Vita, if at all.
its already too late for them to make moves, and if say they make a move next year, when exactly will that happen? E3? TGS? they can't even continue their vita heaven because they got nothing. nothing that will make vita on fire on a non holiday season.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Wait for...
Next financial year? What is there before March and Soul Sacrifice?
Canis lupus
Member
1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 319,708 | 309,630 | 6,761,521 | 6,761,521
2.) Nintendo Wii - 108,237 | 85,439 | 544,034 | 544,034
3.) PlayStation 3 - 70,942 | 50,171 | 308,949 | 308,949
4.) PlayStation Portable - 48,962 | 28,930 | 1,641,910 | 4,324,866
5.) PlayStation 2 - 37,730 | 30,460 | 1,365,857 | 20,070,481
6.) Xbox 360 - 17,168 | 35,343 | 160,014 | 230,580
damn
grimshawish
Banned
Thanks for those. Really good for WiiU then.
Also whilst supply constrained is true, its a valid issue for Nintendo at the time leading to lower sales. Fact is the WiiU is selling on par with the Wii; sales wise this is nothing but good.
Holy shit...And was that was 2006 right? So...doing better in the face of a double console launch...
I fear for the post-New Year Vita numbers.
walking fiend
Member
Good numbers for 3DS, but are people forgetting that the whole market is shrinking and 3DS is not able to fill the gap left by PSV?
gamergirly
Member
I don't expect much, Sony should be concentrating on PS4 next year
Smiles and Cries
Member
NFS: MW bugs me because the Wii U version was pushed back while Vita got it, Vita has been getting the software but people are still using it as the issue. I don't think its a software problem alone anymore.
Three options here;
1) PS3 version only, with the option of running it on Vita
2) Scrap the Vita version, lose the HD, port it to 3DS
3) PS3 and Wii U. (Which is the least likely option lol)
StreetsAhead
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If I was developing a Vita game, there'd be a meeting to discuss it tomorrow morning at 8:30 to announce the project was canceling or going multi-platform.
DeaconKnowledge
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I've bee saying its the PSP's fault but no one is listening
These numbers indicate it's very clearly the 3DS though. Sony killing PSP would only aid 3DS at this point.
walking fiend
Member
Didn't Iwata apologize for the shortage of the deluxe Wii Us in the recent ND? I think Wii U is quite supply restrained as well; even the basic model is selling for over 30k on Amazon
Kinda feel bad for the Vita, honestly. It's a good piece of kit. I don't own one, but I don't normally own hardware that I don't have the need to purchase software from (I know, I know... that's why... but it's pretty nice hardware)
mugurumakensei
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At least, the Wii U everyone wants is supply constrained. They should have just released the premium set. It's what everyone wants even if it makes the base price higher.
Nah, the problem for NSMB U is user base at this point. As it grows, it's sales will continue. There's a hard cap at 438k currently.
unfortuneately true. The psp + nds market was so much bigger than 3ds + vita, that's real story here, and one that bodes ill for handhelds. Oh well, time marches on, all things chage, yadda yadda.
Exterminieren
Banned
Not only does it not have a big holiday title, it doesn't have any title full stop.
The AKB game in January is the next hope.
Wait for 2017?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Gran Turismo Vita will bring some decent acceleration.
Canis lupus
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02. [PS3] Yakuza 4: Heir to the Legend (Sega) - 83.187 / 467.159 (-78%)
05. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (SEGA) 53,000 / 425,000
DragonSworne
Banned
There are too many design flaws with the PSV to call it nice hardware
They should, but solely because people associate white with Wii so black would look like an actual new console.
COD, AC, LBP and NFS MW on the top of my head. i didn't notice their japanese holiday titles given that nothing charted. but those titles are 'everything they've got' for this holiday season.
960 x 544 is HD nowadays?
Castor Krieg
Banned
Believe it or not, most Japanese handheld developers are perfectly fine with selling sub-100k, just look how much games that are not Mario/Pokemon/S-E RPG sell. Persona 4 Golden performance shows Vita can become a niche handheld for more hardcore games, which would be fine with me. You can be sure it's much more likely for Sony to localize niche games than it is for Nintendo.
So instead of making a niche game and selling it ~30k @6000JPY you will make it for PS3, spend more money, and sell as PSN release ~15k@2000JPY (bear in mind being software starved will make people buy more software for the Vita)?
walking fiend
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Yeah, I just think the HW is released at a wrong time, wrong price;
I finally bought a PSP slim this summer, but I am having a thorough blast with both the games and the hardware; I think they should have had aimed at a cheaper PSV with UMD support, and personally I would have had definitely bought that instead of PSP.
Exterminieren
Banned
Given that this is a Japanese sales thread, that lineup is totally laughable.
There are numerous design flaws with every piece of hardware ever released, though.
Or perhaps they're begging publishers for Vita versions of formerly PS3 only games because they haven't given up?
mugurumakensei
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That's correct. It was a problem with software. ACIII Vita, NFS: MW Vita, Madden 13 Vita, lots of titles popular in Japan, and it still fails to sell. It's no longer dealing with post launch drought. It's dealing with inertia.
chertipros
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AKB48
Canis lupus
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qHD
we can hope.
Not sure why so many are gleeful about vita numbers given 3ds region lock and ninty's dislike of localization costs.
Well, there were reasons to doubt it.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I've bee saying its the PSP's fault but no one is listening
If PSP sold 0 and all those sales went to vita, PSV's sales still wouldn't be anything to write home about in week 50.
Seriously, looking at those numbers one has to come to the conclusion that SCE has made deals with NB and TK in order for them to port their games to vita. One also has to conclude that no sane 3rd party will develop a vita exclusive game unless Sony pays for it. Given the lack of sony owned IPs that are catered to the JP market and their precarious financial situation where they can't really explain moneyhatting a franchise, there's not a whole lot they can do. Sony could always liquidize other assets and buy a major share in a major 3rd party developer that owns major JP centric IPs, but regardless, vita is a failure, no ifs ands or maybes about it. Will it outsell the dreamcast or gamecube in Japan? Or even the 360? I have my doubts.
On the other HW:
- Great numbers for PS3 and PSP. PS3 can sell for at least 2-3 more years with an aggressive price drop (14999Y to 19999Y) and sharing some games with WiiU, it'll pass 10 million LTD in sales. PSP will crawl past 20 million and it'll probably sell in the double digits in week 50 next year as well. They can still drop the price to 9999Y
- WiiU numbers are great for week 2. JP is really the only region where WiiU numbers are encouraging
- Wii is dying, last real Christmas as I see Nintendo killing it next year
- 3DS is beast mode, Nintendo really got the JP market with it
mugurumakensei
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Eh, I don't know if this is true. We don't get weekly numbers for the US but Wii U launch numbers were roughly the same as Wii in the US in Nov NPD.
Napalm_Frank
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Price drop incoming for Vita soon. 3DS is doing great in japan and Wii U managed to avoid a huge drop. Good for nintendo.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
List them. Come on, you can't tantalise us with such an absolute and no specifics.