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Future Playstation All Stars Battle Royale DLC Cancelled?

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kuroshiki

Member
Schobeleth said:
Hopefully this pushes SSM to do some damage control and confirm or deny that they're doing DLC outside of Kat and Emmett.



Dang, so many people said that same first line. If they put out DLC for the game and it helps the game grow a bit, who is that hurting? A lot of us believe there's a legitimate market for this type of game, it's what you said last that is very true and ultimately made this game fail to get hyped, IMO.
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Look man. If you searched my post history, when PSBR was first announced I was the first one who was excited and ready jump in... until they announced complete character roaster.

I'm all for genre like this, a fun party game. But for a character game, PSBR just utterly, absolutely, fucking failed to deliver in character section.

It was hilarious to see people defending fat princess as a legitimate character choice in the OT of PSBR. So no, I'm not surprised that the game bombed. Actually i'm fucking glad game mega bombed, since it will teach Sony and Superbot a lesson.

LESSON THAT THEY WILL NEVER FORGET =X
 
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Pop-O-Matic

Banned
whitehawk said:
I don't think it's too big of a deal. I mean Smash Bros has Snake and Sonic.
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That's 2 out of 35 (or 39, depending on how you count them) characters, and fans would have bitched if they didn't include Sonic. How many 3rd party characters does PSASBR have in comparison to the Sony characters?
 
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Man God

Non-Canon Member
KalBalboa said:
Abe fits more in line with a PlayStation fighter than Sonic does with a Nintendo fighter.

End of derailment.
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I think they both fit.

Sonic's defacto home after they left the console market was the Gamecube and then the Wii after that and the only people who know or care about Abe are diehard PSX fans who played the shitty games when they were new.
 
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Kandinsky

Member
Neuromancer said:
Abe's a lover, not a fighter. =\
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Yeah wth, that seems so off I'm actually glad it got cancelled.

Tizoc said:
Have you seen how many Glukkons, Sligs, Slogs and various Odd-beings he's possed and blew up in the course of his quest against the evil polluting corporations?
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Sure but can you really picture him in a brawler like this one?, I sure can't, he is not a very "agile" character.
 
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erpg

GAF parliamentarian
Loudninja said:
Why how does it affect you in anyway?

I mean what the hell.
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Sony continuing to make partnerships with third parties that produce games which sink right down the drain (StarHawk, PSAS, Sorcery, Nihilistic's Vita efforts) might affect my hobby and their gaming division in the long run.

In addition, making stages and characters costs Santa Monica manhours and money that could be put elsewhere. They won't make a dime back on what-his-face and Kat (compounded by the fact that they're free).
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
KalBalboa said:
Abe fits more in line with a PlayStation fighter than Sonic does with a Nintendo fighter.
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there are quite a few Sonic games exclusive to Nintendo systems; he basically found a second home there. not to mention it's a matchup people have discussed since the Genesis/SNES era.
 
diffusionx

diffusionx

Gold Member
Schobeleth said:
Dang, so many people said that same first line. If they put out DLC for the game and it helps the game grow a bit, who is that hurting? A lot of us believe there's a legitimate market for this type of game, it's what you said last that is very true and ultimately made this game fail to get hyped, IMO.
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It's chasing good money after bad. The game is a bust, time to move on. Put that money towards Ascension DLC.

There is a legitimate market for this type of game, it's on Nintendo platforms and called Smash Bros.
 
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kuroshiki

Member
Lyphen said:
Sony continuing to make partnerships with third parties that produce games which sink right down the drain (StarHawk, PSAS, Sorcery, Nihilistic's Vita efforts) might affect my hobby and their gaming division in the long run.
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Uh. Not sure about PSAS but you are blaming StarHawk, Sorcery, Nihilistic's failure to Sony?

They were all below average games. Blame developer who failed to deliver the promise. Not Sony.

Although, I agree that it is time for Sony to stop experimenting and develop a core IP, instead of series of mediocre shits.
 
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KalBalboa

Banned
GMN said:
there are quite a few Sonic games exclusive to Nintendo systems; he basically found a second home there. not to mention it's a matchup people have discussed since the Genesis/SNES era.
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Post Smash Wii, sure. I don't mind Sonic being in Smash but that does not change how Abe wouldn't be an odd man out in All Stars.

Abe and the Oddworld games were synonymous with the PlayStation One. It's irrefutable, so it's a labored point to try and debate. People were asking for him in the game for a long, long time for good reason. Abe was a PlayStation mascot.
 
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erpg

GAF parliamentarian
kuroshiki said:
Uh. Not sure about PSAS but you are blaming StarHawk, Sorcery, Nihilistic's failure to Sony?

They were all below average games. Blame developer who failed to deliver the promise. Not Sony.
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It's a publisher's job to assess a game's marketability and bring down the axe. Sony funds these projects.

They've been far too "laissez-faire" throughout the whole generation.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
KalBalboa said:
Post Smash Wii, sure. I don't mind Sonic being in Smash but that does not change how Abe wouldn't be an odd man out in All Stars.

Abe and the Oddworld games were synonymous with the PlayStation One. It's irrefutable, so it's a labored point to try and debate. People were asking for him in the game for a long, long time for good reason. Abe was a PlayStation mascot.
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no, the GBA and DS games. not to mention Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for the longest time, though those aren't exclusives in the technical sense.

i never said Abe would be a weird choice. he fits just fine, and better than some of the characters in the game already.
 
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Poltergust

Member
...I guess I'm the only one who found the roster perfect. I got Spike, Sly, Parappa, and Sackboy. Those four were all I really needed.

Heck, they even catered to my nostalgia some more and threw in Sir Dan.
 
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KalBalboa

Banned
Poltergust_3000 said:
...I guess I'm the only one who found the roster perfect. I got Spike, Sly, Parappa, and Sackboy. Those four were all I really needed.

Heck, they even catered to my nostalgia some more and threw in Sir Dan.
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It's a far better roster than many on GAF would have you believe. It definitely had some noteworthy holes, though. If they got two more "big names" then I think it wouldn't sold better (namely Snake, Cloud, Crash).
 
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kuroshiki

Member
Poltergust_3000 said:
...I guess I'm the only one who found the roster perfect. I got Spike, Sly, Parappa, and Sackboy. Those four were all I really needed.

Heck, they even catered to my nostalgia some more and threw in Sir Dan.
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You may not be the only one but you are in the super minority. Hence the mega bombed game.

Too bad that we won't see PSBR2. Heavily updated, more focused characters with better mechanics could make this game fly.
 
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StealthGoblin

Banned
GMN said:
not really more than other games with DLC....
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They should have had 2 characters ready to go two weeks after launch to keep hype and online play going stronger. The game needed all of the marketing it could get and an active fanbase continually talking about new characters and stages goes further than people think.

The game came out in November. It is now February. They didn't capitalize on the Xmas period etc with DLC. Even if they released one character at a time it would have been better than sweet FA.

I own the game and like it, but I haven't been playing it because there is nothing new.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
Galvanise_ said:
They should have had 2 characters ready to go two weeks after launch to keep hype and online play going stronger. The game needed all of the marketing it could get and an active fanbase continually talking about new characters and stages goes further than people think.
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that means they probably would've cut those characters from the final product.
 
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BHK3

Banned
Lyphen said:
Sony continuing to make partnerships with third parties that produce games which sink right down the drain (StarHawk, PSAS, Sorcery, Nihilistic's Vita efforts) might affect my hobby and their gaming division in the long run.

In addition, making stages and characters costs Santa Monica manhours and money that could be put elsewhere. They won't make a dime back on what-his-face and Kat (compounded by the fact that they're free).
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Find it funny you took that one tweet at face value and did no research of your own to see if it was credible.
 
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erpg

GAF parliamentarian
BHK3 said:
Find it funny you took that one tweet at face value and did no research of your own to see if it was credible.
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My response really has nothing to do with the tweet. At least, I don't think it does.

If you think it's invalidated by anything, let me know. I'd hate to be left in the dark.
 
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StealthGoblin

Banned
GMN said:
that means they probably would've cut those characters from the final product.
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Bad project management in my opinion. Decide the content you want on the disc and make it. Meanwhile, decide what characters and stages you want as DLC and prep those.

If you are going to do DLC you need to factor it in from an early stage.

Think of it like GTA: IV. Rockstar didn't ship the game and say 'FUCCCKK WE NEEED DLC'. They had it all planned out.
 
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Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Well if the game sold poorly, then what are the odds of them selling enough DLC packs for them to be profitable? Pretty low.

So yea, they are probably cancelled. They won't say it outright yet just in case the kat/emma stuff ends up selling gangbusters.
 
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mollipen

Member
KalBalboa said:
Abe fits more in line with a PlayStation fighter than Sonic does with a Nintendo fighter.
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Sonic vs Mario was a match-up people had wanted to see for years and years. I'd argue that it was one of the biggest gaming rivalries that people never thought would happen (much like SNK vs Capcom).

Anecdotal, yes, but I've never heard anybody I know asking for Abe. Probably just depends in the circle you were in an what games you'd play, but I'd never associate him with "PlayStation".
 
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SSReborn

Member
Loudninja said:
Well there you go

http://twitter.com/SonySantaMonica/status/298923333163028480
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The only problem with Sony Santa Monica is they will never be as transparent with us as Superbot was. We will be mostly kept out of the loop with what they are going to be doing. Not to mention they have their own games to worry about.

I just hope that they will at least look into keeping the game balanced if Kat and Emmett end up being overpowered and there is no patch to address it at all that would be pretty sad.

Sinatar said:
Well if the game sold poorly, then what are the odds of them selling enough DLC packs for them to be profitable? Pretty low.

So yea, they are probably cancelled. They won't say it outright yet just in case the kat/emma stuff ends up selling gangbusters.
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Kat and Emmett are free.
 
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BHK3

Banned
Lyphen said:
My response really has nothing to do with the tweet. At least, I don't think it does.

If you think it's invalidated by anything, let me know. I'd hate to be left in the dark.
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Starhawk and Nihilistic dug their own graves, Sorcerys a move game so don't expect it to sell(no idea where the 3rd party company part comes in considering theres very little information on them anyway) and PSAS didn't do good for a large number of reasons, Sony being just one of them but not the main one.
 
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atomic moth

Member
I owned a PS1 and I associate Abe with Sony. Heavily. I didn't even know they had Xbox games until recently.


I completely understand if people don't share my viewpoint though.
 
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erpg

GAF parliamentarian
BHK3 said:
Starhawk and Nihilistic dug their own graves, Sorcerys a move game so don't expect it to sell(no idea where the 3rd party company part comes in considering theres very little information on them anyway) and PSAS didn't do good for a large number of reasons, Sony being just one of them but not the main one.
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Sony approved StarHawk and made a multi game deal with Lightbox.
Sony assigned Nihilistic to two major franchises.
Sony both sunk R&D into Move and penned a deal with The Workshop to create Sorcery.

There's a common theme of incompetence and poor decision making, and it can be assigned to whatever group of people work with second and third party development at Sony.
 
shira

shira

Member
Byronic Hero said:
The guy from this game:
256px-Abe's_Oddysee_Cover.jpg
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Why would they want an xbox franchise?
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StealthGoblin

Banned
Lyphen said:
Sony approved StarHawk and made a multi game deal with Lightbox.
Sony assigned Nihilistic to two major franchises.
Sony both sunk R&D into Move and penned a deal with The Workshop to create Sorcery.

There's a common theme of incompetence and poor decision making, and it can be assigned to whatever group of people work with second and third party development at Sony.
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....at SCEA.

SCEE's judgement is better. Quantic Dream, Tarsier, Supermassive Games, Novarama etc have all put in solid shifts.
 
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BHK3

Banned
Lyphen said:
Sony approved StarHawk and made a multi game deal with Lightbox.
Sony assigned Nihilistic to two major franchises.
Sony both sunk R&D into Move and penned a deal with The Workshop to create Sorcery.

There's a common theme of incompetence and poor decision making, and it can be assigned to whatever group of people work with second and third party development at Sony.
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And lightbox fucked it up. Sony signed a multi-game deal because they made Warhawk which was a success, they had faith in them which was wholly justified.
And Nihilistic fucked it up.
And well yeah the move failed no shocker there.

Only one where I'll blame Sony on is with Nihilistic, they should've gotten more help with Resistance and unfortunately most likely were rushed like hell by Sony and Activision for Blops vita.
 
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