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Game fonts: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

Love the font from P3/P4. So readable - just pops off the screen for my old, busted eyes.

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Final Fantasy Tactics' font has this subtle charming quality to it.


Love that ubiquitous CPS2 font (seen in the characters' names)

 

see5harp

Member
I remember some guy who worked in translation posting about fonts and why so many JRPG translations end up being terrible. It was something about the native japanese text and how it was formatted.
 

Soma

Member
Wow I'm sorry but the Class of Heroes 2 and Growlanser V examples look terrible.

Though on the flipside I don't really mind the type-face Persona 2: IS uses.
 

Aeana

Member
I hope whoever chose the font for dialogue for FFXII was taken out behind Square Enix HQ and shot.

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And I had no idea until I just did a google image search, but apparently someone heroically took it upon themselves to do the right thing and patched FFXII to replace it with the classic and far superior FFX font... (linking it because I don't remember how to resize images on this board):

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/5640/pcsx220121119062350201b.png

That's not the FF10 font, and the patch isn't a font replacement patch, it's the English FF12 International patch which just retains the font from the menu for dialog.
 

gblues

Banned
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(Class of Heroes 2)

Going to disagree with you here. Blackletter typefaces are really hard to read, although this one manages to not be completely atrocious, but it's no Helvetica.
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(Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice)

A beautiful pixel typeface.

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(Growlanser V)
This is what happens when you try to lay out a variable-width typeface like a fixed-width typeface. Kerning? Isn't that a frog or something? Horrible typesetting.
 

CTLance

Member
Slightly OT: I feel sorry for those among us that have a proper "font education".

I mean, yes, I can spot kerning errors when I actively look for them. However, I am not bothered by any font atrocities unless they get in the way of readability. I subconsciously ignore them.

Must be horrible to go window shopping and break out in hives at the crimes against typesetting committed nearly everywhere.


With that in mind: I like the Zelda Links Awakening font. Here's the DX version.
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So clean, yet elegant.
 

bernardobri

Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Speaking of fonts, anyone knows the name of this one featured on the Fire Emblem 12? It's the same one featured on Fire Emblem 11, but I'm missing the name...

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Bear

Member
I love the expressive font on the Paper Mario games.

Earthbound also did some cool stuff with that, especially in Saturn Valley. Combined with the music and visuals, it gave the place a really strange vibe that's pretty much unique to the Mother series.

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DocSeuss

Member
Well, I have quite a bit to say on this matter (surprise), but not enough time to make a post about it at the moment, so it'll have to wait.



That's Papyrus, one of the most improperly used fonts ever. Also used as Avatar's subtitle font, sadly.



That's not Comic Sans, it's Andy.

It boggles my mind that reaction to Papyrus from someone who apparently has never seen it before can be so positive towards it. It's so improperly used because so many people are like "woah, this is the best font ever" when they first see it, and then it gets annoying.

I did not know "Andy" was a font. That's awesome.

I always figured a font named Andy would look like this, though:

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Feep

Banned
I'm on my phone at the moment, but someone post a UI shot from FFXIV 2.0. It's beautiful.

I also appreciated Virtue's Last Reward font, considering how much text is in that game.
 

Lotto

Member
Earthbound also did some cool stuff with that, especially in Saturn Valley. Combined with the music and visuals, it gave the place a really strange vibe that's pretty much unique to the Mother series.

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Yep.

Love this font so much:

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So distinctive to the series and just so good.
 

destrudo

Member
It's not something I ever really think about, but oddly enough I really don't like the font in RE6. It seems like the wording should stand out or be stylized, but it just looks like Like Times New Roman except in capital letters. It's made even worse with the basic looking menus and the other font styles thrown in randomly.

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Adventure Time for the 3DS has the most basic text boxes of all time, but I'll be damned if I can't stop loving them. Why?

I CAN READ IT.

I'm looking at you, Dead Space 2.
 

ebil

Member
I'm on my phone at the moment, but someone post a UI shot from FFXIV 2.0. It's beautiful.
Came here to post it. Minagawa did an excellent job on ARR in my opinion. Love the mix of fonts and bright colors. So much better than V1, even though that's not a huge achievement in itself.

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(that's a shot from the PS3 version by the way)

Edit: I also really liked The Witcher 2's menu fonts (although I'm aware their small size made them hard to read at times).
 

Espada

Member
FFXII's menu font is nice, and I love FFT's font. Persona 3 and 4 are up there as well, it just looks very neat and distinct (without popping out or being hard to read).

Worst? Probably the Gen 3 pokemon games. It's always jarring when I go back and replay them.
 
I hate super-serif'd fantasy fonts so much. Say what you will about Skyrim's terrible UI, but at least they ditched the faux-handwritten Oblivion font.

I can't stand that stuff either. Overly skeuomorphic fantasy-themed UIs are just kinda gross in general. Skyrim's style was a breath of fresh air; it made nods to its fantasy theme but was totally readable and classy (usability on the other hand... ehh).

It's not something I ever really think about, but oddly enough I really don't like the font in RE6. It seems like the wording should stand out or be stylized, but it just looks like Like Times New Roman except in capital letters. It's made even worse with the basic looking menus and the other font styles thrown in randomly.

It seems like a lot of Japanese games use a similar serif font. I think it works strangely well in Dark Souls, but most of the time it comes across as lazy.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Any terrible sci fi movie or game is almost guaranteed to use Bank Gothic at some point.
 
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(Class of Heroes 2)
I can see what the publisher was going for, but it's sacrificing readability for style. I have to stop and think about what I'm reading with that particular screenshot, and that's gonna suck over the coarse of the game. Hopefully that won't be the case on a real screen since I'm kinda looking forward to the game.

If anything, I'd go with some easy-to-read chalkboard-themed font if they wanted to go with something stylish. Something like this perhaps?:

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It'd play well with the theme of the game and the color scheme of that dialogue window.

Personally, I loved the font in Tactics Ogre PSP. There were no letter-spacing issues, and it was a comfortable amount of text in a single line.
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Aeana

Member
Over the years, there have been a lot of really bad fonts in games, especially English translations of Japanese RPGs.

First, what many refer to as the Tales of Symphonia font. It's awful, and it's used in a fair number of games, including...

Tales of Symphonia

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Shadow Hearts

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Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song

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Breath of Fire 4

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Also mentioned is the DS devkit font, but without screenshots of it. So here's some:

Suikoden Tierkreis

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Retro Game Challenge

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Devil Survivor

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999 uses the larger version of the font, so it's not as offensive, but still not good at all.

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There are also some fairly crappy Japanese fonts, but one of them is particularly pervasive. Some examples:

Final Fantasy 12

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Infinite Undiscovery

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Ghost Trick - the English version actually uses the same font, which surprised me. The Roman letters don't look quite as bad, but it's still not very good at all.

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As for examples of good typography, Square Enix actually had some great examples on the DS this past generation.

Final Fantasy Tactics A2

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The World Ends With You

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The IBM font that Atlus USA has been using recently is also quite nice.

Etrian Odyssey 3

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Radiant Historia

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In terms of Japanese fonts, there's actually a fair number of really good ones, but I think FF9 was the first time I ever saw a Japanese font in a game and thought it looked absolutely wonderful.

Final Fantasy 9


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I feel like I could go on forever. I might make another post. I really want to give props to some other games like Ni no Kuni for its bold use of a slab serif (to great effect!) and a couple of other games.
 

Aeana

Member
Personally, I loved the font in Tactics Ogre PSP. There were no letter-spacing issues, and it was a comfortable amount of text in a single line.
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/T/Tactics%20Ogre%20Let%20Us%20Cling%20Together/Everything%20Else/Review/TacticsOgre_1--article_image.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

I would prefer it to be smallcaps, similar to Vagrant Story or FF12. I think all caps is way too difficult to read. Because of that, TO PSP's dialog font is something I'd list under bad. That said, the primary menu font is absolutely wonderfully implemented.

[quote][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Vv6Kq3h.jpg
 

zoku88

Member
Hmmm, I'm actually not liking that FF9 font. For some reason, some of the characters look a little "tall"

EDIT: Nvm. "tall" isn't the right word. Thin? Hard to describe. Definately a lot better than the GT one, though, lol.
 

Aeana

Member
I love the Final Fantasy VI SNES font:
http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Final_Fantasy_3_SNES_ScreenShot4.jpg[img]

I hate the Final Fantasy VI Advance font:
[img]http://gbamedia.gamespy.com/gba/image/article/764/764893/final-fantasy-vi-advance-20070214054234283-000.jpg[img][/QUOTE]

The former is Chicago, the Mac system font for many years. It's also used in Chrono Trigger!
The latter is SE's standard FF portable font, and I despise it as well. It's used in FF1-6 Advance as well as 4 Heroes of Light and Revenant Wings.

[quote="zoku88, post: 47407087"]Hmmm, I'm actually not liking that FF9 font. For some reason, some of the characters look a little "tall"[/QUOTE]

It's incredibly easy to read, I think. I really adore it.
 
I love the "adventure game" font that a lot of Japanese games use:

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Actually on second though they're not the same at all. But somehow they produce the same feeling of intrigue and mystery.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
The former is Chicago, the Mac system font for many years. It's also used in Chrono Trigger!
The latter is SE's standard FF portable font, and I despise it as well. It's used in FF1-6 Advance as well as 4 Heroes of Light and Revenant Wings.

Ahah, never realized that it was the Mac font.

Also, your font-fu never ceases to amaze me.
 

LuuKyK

Member
Dont know if it counts but, as much as I like the game, the uncharted font used in the logo is atrocious, like those fonts you find in stock images, etc... Of course it fits the theme of the game and everything, but still they could have done much better than that.

I hope whoever chose the font for dialogue for FFXII was taken out behind Square Enix HQ and shot.

ffxii_cutscene.jpg

Came here to mention this too. Oh god, is it awful.
 

Czigga

Member
Seems like a lot of game devs these days forget that we don't play games on the same monitor 12" away from the screen that they develop them on. I think fonts could be bigger almost across the board (for console games).
 
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