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They should put the sticks on the back. Asymmetrically.

 

[Darknight]

The placement is also a huge issue.

I can't imagine being able to comfortably use the track pad unless you set the controller down.

Um your thumbs can reach that space quiet easily. I feel deja vu with the "well if they place icons on the vita screen (all the way to left/right edge), my thumb wont reach" stuff.

Take your DS3 right now, and slide your thumb around the PS Button area. It will be fine. This is what I had imagined it would be like and Im glad Sony went this way.

 

[Izick]

Wish I could have tried out the boomerang just to see how it would have felt.

 

[flyinpiranha]

I..don't know how that means it's the industry standard.

Besides the Wii U, I think Sony is the only one that has stuck with the asymmetrical design over the past 15 years. Granted, not many consoles have come out since then.

I was just mentioning that most systems outside of Sony have not been symmetrical.

Either way, it's ALL preference. There is no industry standard.

 

[Duxxy3]

We really need a side view and rear view to see how the triggers and hand molds are shaped.

 

[lenovox1]

This is a fucking awesome controller. Sony has done it again and made the definite gaming controller of this millenium even better.

Whoo lord! Console fans are religious. It's nice that they added a couple features, but gad damn.

 

[metalslimer]

Bullshit. It is the same place as Start and Select which are easily achievable.

You don't have to slide your fingers on the stat and slect buttons which you presumably will do with this unless they literally use to just make you press touch buttons that could be done anywhere else.

Edit: Oh jeez at some of the reactions in here.

 

[Perkel]

is there a nintendo wii dev kit standing on the PS4 dev kit?

do we know where the image is from? do we know any PS3 developsers that worked on wii games that could work on PS4?

Yep looks like it.

 

[War Eagle]

This is why it is not probably camera. No way in hell camera will be build in console

Why not?

Edit.. I'm an idiot. You're right, that would be beyond stupid.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Are those dual camera lenses built in to the dev kit?

Interesting.

 

[Liamario]

This is why the Wii U GamePad sticks are at the top of the controller.

I said the same in a thread a while back. If you are going to be using the thumbs to interact with the touch pad, the sticks need to be on top.
It could be possible that the sticks are quite shallow and may not be that much of an issue.
It could also be that the touch pad isn't really designed to be used in game except in menus or similar activities. I honestly don't see how a touch pad could be of any real benefit during live gameplay.

 

[Curufinwe]

Um your thumbs can reach that space quiet easily. I feel deja vu with the "well if they place icons on the vita screen (all the way to left/right edge), my thumb wont reach" stuff.

People said that?

I have no problem reaching the change weapon icons in AC3 Liberation.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I been saying it my last few posts in this thread

I thought he means the black things on Dev box.

This pic you posted is very interesting, I'll have to look into the description but could go with that LeapMotion theory someone mentioned (cameras under the glass)

"Controller with an integrated depth camera"
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...mputer"&OS="sony+computer"&RS="sony+computer"

 

[Sojgat]

Pretty much exactly what I pictured. Stick placement still sucks.

 

[TGO]

Not anymore it isn't. Them days are long gone.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ga...=isch&ei=kVsdUbLoBcqu0QWx0YCYBw&start=20&sa=N
dude, even the Onlive pad is symmetrical, MS is on their own.

 

[Oppo]

Besides the Wii U, I think Sony is the only one that has stuck with the asymmetrical design over the past 15 years. Granted, not many consoles have come out since then.

I was just mentioning that most systems outside of Sony have not been symmetrical.

Either way, it's ALL preference. There is no industry standard.

What are you talking about?

Nintendo and Sony have done symmetrical sticks for everything in the last 6 years. MS is alone on this.

 

[LastNac]

I thought he means the black things on Dev box.

This pic you posted is very interesting, could go with that leapmotion theory someone mentioned (cameras under the glass)

Dem triggers look the same.

 

[VXLbeast]

Speaker on the controller is cool, just so long as it doesn't sound like the wii one.

 

[Digital-Hero]

Dem triggers look the same.

"Dem" is not a final controller.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Dem triggers look the same.

That's because the drawing is a PS3 controller for that part.

 

[torontoml]

Picked up a PS3 controller and I put my thumbs where the touch pad goes, the sticks don't get in the way.

 

[Perkel]

You don't have to slide your fingers on the stat and slect buttons which you presumably will do with this unless they literally use to just make you press touch buttons that could be done anywhere else.

Edit: Oh jeez at some of the reactions in here.

You don't press start by moving over analogue stick. You press it above sticks and whole area is easily achievable.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

In shame at my fellow gamers I already hang my head in shame sir. Will you not see my point of view? I have clearly thought too much of you fine fellows of Gaf for not being able to see what it is that lies beneath the surface of this game they are playing with you. No, mock me if you will fellow gamers but remember this moment you will.

You're trying too hard.

 

[Ozzykamikaze]

Good point. Should be interesting to see.

My guess is that there will be unique features in various versions of multiplatform games early on (first 2 years or so) but then everything will become pretty much the same.

I think there is too much money to be lost now. I think even if you had a controller with one big fat red button and a trackball, devs would make it work. Games are too expensive to make for them to be that picky about controllers.

 

[onQ123]

I thought he means the black things on Dev box.

This pic you posted is very interesting, I'll have to look into the description but could go with that LeapMotion theory someone mentioned (cameras under the glass)

I just caught that he was talking about the devkit.

 

[Visualante2]

I was just referring to the position of those buttons, and no, a capacitive touchpad isn't very expensive at all.

Wanna cite the costs? 'cause I'm willing to bet with you that two rubber buttons are cheaper than a freaking touch pad.

 

[Liamario]

Speaker on the controller is cool, just so long as it doesn't sound like the wii one.

I would hope it is a combination of both preferably. There is no real benefit having a speaker there; a mic would be great and the the headphone socket for chat audio.

 

[shinobi602]

Lol this thread.

Console warriors seem to be prepping for battle. I already see skirmishes underway XD

 

[Edelknoedel]

Funny thing is, that controller pic doesn't reveal a pretty big addition. So there are still a couple of surprises with it

https://twitter.com/PS3Nation/status/302158031188291584

Maybe it's heat control:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Possible+Playstation+4+Feature%3F+Sony+Patents+A+Heat-Controlled+Game...-a0305250770

That would fit to the blue light on top of the pad. It switches to red when it turns warm.

 

[Lynn616]

Lends weight to the idea that the camera is going to be standard IMO. Would be strange to have something on the standard controller that needed a peripheral to work.

Yeah, I think the dual camera is going to come with every system.

 

[| Praxis |]

I really hope the final controller doesn't have a large light on it like that. I like to game in a dark room and I'd find that very distracting. I'm sure there would be an option to turn it off though.

 

[Izick]

Can we all stop bitching about the stick placement? The different ways aren't better or worse, they're just different. As someone who has a PS3 and 360, it took me like an hour to get accustomed to using the sticks and I didn't feel like it was worse except for the fact that they were too close.

They're both fine, you just have to get used to them.

Now let's figure out what the fuck those cameras are doing built into the dev kit!

 

[Perkel]

Why not?

Edit.. I'm an idiot. You're that, that would be beyond stupid.

Because only 5% of people put their console in some good place for psEye camera position. Most of people even hides their console or put it in such way that camera simply won't work.

And no most people don't have good place to put console in good position for PsEye.

 

[Digital-Hero]

Lol this thread.

Console warriors seem to be prepping for battle. I already skirmishes underway XD

Your avatar gives the impression that you will eat up every moment of it. lol

 

[MidnightCowboy]

You're right, they might get cold feet and make this one terrible instead of great just like they did with the boomerang. They had sound ergonomics and they threw them away.

The boomerang is a horrible controller design, those slanted shoulder buttons look disgusting. I've never had a problem with a DualShock, nothing about it feels unnatural. But I feel the same way about the 360 controller. I don't think the symmetry or asymmetry of either detracts or adds anything special. The only reason I prefer the 360 controller is the triggers and a slightly heavier feel.

 

[Oppo]

Lol this thread.

Console warriors seem to be prepping for battle. I already skirmishes underway XD

 

[shinobi602]

Your avatar gives the impression that you will eat up every moment of it. lol

Yes they are my sustenance.

 

[Liamario]

Engadget seems to think its just a prototype based on one of their sources http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/14/playstation-4-prototype-controller/

 

[infinityBCRT]

Because only 5% of people put their console in some good place for psEye camera position. Most of people even hides their console or put it in such way that camera simply won't work.

And no most people don't have good place to put console in good position for PsEye.

Again, its only a devkit. Those look like cameras, but doesn't mean at all that the retail hardware will have it built into the box.

 

[Darknight]

People said that?

I have no problem reaching the change weapon icons in AC3 Liberation.

Yes people will complain about everything without really thinking about it. If I remember correctly it was about COD Vita (before it was released/rumored etc) that if they placed the knife or run Icons along the edge of the screen, your thumb wouldnt reach the said Icons. In reality, your thumbs are literally mm away from the screen at all times. So it would work. (nd it worked in Resistance Vita, havent played CODshitty Vita version)

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Everybody in here fighting the good fight. Beautiful :^)

 

[Midas]

Engadget seems to think its just a prototype based on one of their sources http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/14/playstation-4-prototype-controller/

Of course it is.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Besides the Wii U, I think Sony is the only one that has stuck with the asymmetrical design over the past 15 years. Granted, not many consoles have come out since then.

I was just mentioning that most systems outside of Sony have not been symmetrical.

Either way, it's ALL preference. There is no industry standard.

Quick FYI but asymmetry and "not symmetry" are the same thing. The Dual Shock isn't asymmetrical, it's symmetrical.

 

[AgentChris]

And the DS's shitty positioning means my thumbs constantly hit one another. Hurray. But if the new DS is bigger, perhaps I wont have that issue anymore. As it is now, the DS controller isn't made for me.

Learn how to use a controller.

 

[Man]

I really hope the final controller doesn't have a large light on it like that. I like to game in a dark room and I'd find that very distracting. I'm sure there would be an option to turn it off though.

I expect the light to fade away soonish on non-motion/party games to save battery life (or whatever the developer choses really).

 

[Rapstah]

Terrible controller design. By my estimates, no one is going to be able to hold it.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

This makes me excited in the trousers. NextgenItshappening.gif

 

[sant]

The boomerang is a horrible controller design, those slanted shoulder buttons look disgusting. I've never had a problem with a DualShock, nothing about it feels unnatural. But I feel the same way about the 360 controller. I don't think the symmetry or asymmetry of either detracts or adds anything special. The only reason I prefer the 360 controller is the triggers and a slightly heavier feel.

But have you actually held one in your hand?

 

[B.O.O.M]

Terrible controller design. By my estimates, no one is going to be able to hold it.

hahaha well done sir

 

[Tobor]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ga...=isch&ei=kVsdUbLoBcqu0QWx0YCYBw&start=20&sa=N
dude, even the Onlive pad is symmetrical, MS is on their own.

Ouya is asymmetrical. Take that!

I don't really care what the standard is, asymmetrical is superior. But nothing is perfect, so I can make do.