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Bravely Default: Flying Fairy twitter account says they can hear the overseas fans

jschreier

Member
I dug around a bit on that GameFAQs person. Seems like he lives in France and really likes Dark Souls. He wouldn't give me any proof that he's legit. My gut says he's not. If you want to leak things anonymously, you don't use an account with a history, and you definitely don't do it on GameFAQs.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I dug around a bit on that GameFAQs person. Seems like he lives in France and really likes Dark Souls. He wouldn't give me any proof that he's legit. My gut says he's not. If you want to leak things anonymously, you don't use an account with a history, and you definitely don't do it on GameFAQs.

Maybe he's another Galv or attempting to be one.

Some things he says sounds plausible. But that's it. They "sound" plausible. Doesn't mean they are.
 

Reveirg

Member
When in doubt, believe Kagari.

I mean no offense, and I'm genuinely asking:

Why should we believe Kagari, does she receive embargoed info from devs/other journalists? Or are we basing our trust on her track record?

Again, I'm not as much doubting as I'm just curious to know. =)
 

Stark

Banned
I hope they keep the name as well but if they really, really need Final Fantasy in the title I hope they keep "brave" somehow.

Bravely Default: Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Braves

or something along those lines.

Well, according to some members who've played it, Flying Fairy is the one that has to stay so. It would kind of look silly if they if they added Final Fantasy in there.

Protip: This guy is full of shit.

Thought so.
 
I dug around a bit on that GameFAQs person. Seems like he lives in France and really likes Dark Souls. He wouldn't give me any proof that he's legit. My gut says he's not. If you want to leak things anonymously, you don't use an account with a history, and you definitely don't do it on GameFAQs.






Okay... Then I doubt this guy. If he lived in France, I think we'd have heard of it on big french sites like Jeuxvideo.com. But at best, there's still hope with the BD:FF twitter account, maybe that guy just got lucky.
 

Stuart444

Member
I wouldn't believe him myself, just talking so freely like that not caring if his info is likely to get him 'caught' so yeah.

The Versus stuff just sounds like 'educated' guesses as well. But hey, when people are desperate, they'll believe anyone.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I wouldn't believe him myself, just talking so freely like that not caring if his info is likely to get him 'caught' so yeah.

The Versus stuff just sounds like 'educated' guesses as well. But hey, when people are desperate, they'll believe anyone.

That's because they are educated guesses. I'm assuming most didn't read the entire topic in question?
 

Aeana

Member
That's because they are educated guesses. I'm assuming most didn't read the entire topic in question?
I read the post where he claimed to be privy to Square Enix localization meetings, so that doesn't sound like he's claiming to make educated guesses at all.
 

Stuart444

Member
That's because they are educated guesses. I'm assuming most didn't read the entire topic in question?

I went with the quoted bits, an 'insider' sharing juicy bits [which people would guess even if they aren't insiders] when it's just educated guesses.

I read the post where he claimed to be privy to Square Enix localization meetings, so that doesn't sound like he's claiming to make educated guesses at all.

I read the same post the other day and about how they haven't started localization yet.

If he lives in France (which would be SE Europe then), it'd be weird for Europe to be deciding stuff like this.
 
I dug around a bit on that GameFAQs person. Seems like he lives in France and really likes Dark Souls. He wouldn't give me any proof that he's legit. My gut says he's not. If you want to leak things anonymously, you don't use an account with a history, and you definitely don't do it on GameFAQs.
Fatal Frame 2 Wii was leaked on GameFAQs. :p
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I read the post where he claimed to be privy to Square Enix localization meetings, so that doesn't sound like he's claiming to make educated guesses at all.

The meetings he supposedly goes to is for western plans. He doesn't know everything. And yes you read the post, but perhaps you should read the entire topic and then make an accurate judgment.

For BDFF we can still gauge that game on it's predecessor's localizaton rate. Which was an exact year.

And with that in mind you should also remember that SE's branches are disjointed and supposedly lack communication. Another thing to consider.

Only thing you can really say about it is "maybe".
 
I went with the quoted bits, an 'insider' sharing juicy bits [which people would guess even if they aren't insiders] when it's just educated guesses.



I read the same post the other day and about how they haven't started localization yet.

If he lives in France (which would be SE Europe then), it'd be weird for Europe to be deciding stuff like this.




it'd be weird for SE Europe to be deciding this stuff in France. Come on.
 

nasos_333

Member
If it isn't at E3, then signs point to no. Their official twitter can hear you though. Not that it means much.

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There have been two tweets so far, so signs are possitive

Also has such a title ever been announced in E3 ?

I think E3 is about big commercial titles with huge names and a lot of marketing, like FF for example

I think the last place we would see it is E3

The peitition has 25000 votes

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...ring-bravely-default-flying-fairy-to-the-west

So, it is going well overall, even if the guy at gameFAQS was lying
 

Aeana

Member
The meetings he supposedly goes to is for western plans. He doesn't know everything. And yes you read the post, but perhaps you should read the entire topic and then make an accurate judgment.

For BDFF we can still gauge that game on it's predecessor's localizaton rate. Which was an exact year.

And with that in mind you should also remember that SE's branches are disjointed and supposedly lack communication. Another thing to consider.

Only thing you can really say about it is "maybe".
I've read this whole thread. I was only pointing out that one post since it is an incongruency with your claims.

The last thing I'm going to say here is that nothing I've personally said about the state of any SE project in this thread is a guess.
 

wrowa

Member
Ehh, I have no particular reason to doubt this person. Everything he said pretty much falls in line with what you would expect from current gen Square Enix.

Until his track record is broken and he is proved to be totally wrong, I'll be treating it as a credible source.

Him saying that Versus isn't considered for localisation at this point really takes away any kind of credibility he might have had. SE develops a big budget game for years but plants to release it only in Japan for now? Yeah, suuuure. Because they love losing money.


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There have been two tweets so far, so signs are possitive

Do we know who is updating the tweets? The PR guys at SE? The developers themselves?

If it's the latter it really doesn't mean a thing. Of course they want to see their game in as many hands as possible.
 

Aeana

Member
Him saying that Versus isn't considered for localisation at this point really takes away any kind of credibility he might have had. SE develops a big budget game for years but plants to release it only in Japan for now? Yeah, suuuure. Because they love losing money.




Do we know who is updating the tweets? The PR guys at SE? The developers themselves?

If it's the latter it really doesn't mean a thing. Of course they want to see their game in as many hands as possible.
The tweets on that account are by the game's producer unless explicitly noted otherwise.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Him saying that Versus isn't considered for localisation at this point really takes away any kind of credibility he might have had. SE develops a big budget game for years but plants to release it only in Japan for now? Yeah, suuuure. Because they love losing money.

It's a possibility though. Square could and I've said this a couple times before, they could go the Namco route of releasing in Japan first before gauging on localizing a game or not.
 

Stuart444

Member
The tweets on that account are by the game's producer unless explicitly noted otherwise.

That must mean good things then right? I mean it seems odd for the producer to tweet anything if they planned to just keep ignoring the west.

I honestly never cared much about BD:FF but all this ruckus over it makes me want to try it so I'm hoping it gets localized now.
 

Velcro Fly

Member
If this guy had any connection at all to the gaming industry and could prove it his userlevel would be VIP with his real name and actual company attached do it. I'll look around on GameFAQs a little bit and see if I can dig up a VIP account to show what it looks like when someone is legit. I don't believe the guy for a second but the tweets get me a little excited.

edit: my point is there is no reason why someone with a connection to the gaming industry and for whatever reason wants to post on GameFAQs wouldn't just prove it and get a nice user level and a ton of credibility.
 

Stuart444

Member
If this guy had any connection at all to the gaming industry and could prove it his userlevel would be VIP with his real name and actual company attached do it. I'll look around on GameFAQs a little bit and see if I can dig up a VIP account to show what it looks like when someone is legit. I don't believe the guy for a second but the tweets get me a little excited.

edit: my point is there is no reason why someone with a connection to the gaming industry and for whatever reason wants to post on GameFAQs wouldn't just prove it and get a nice user level and a ton of credibility.

Well tbf there is 1. The ability to leak stuff with a certain level of anonymity and 2. people can make more than one account so one could be VIP while the other wouldn't be.
 
Him saying that Versus isn't considered for localisation at this point really takes away any kind of credibility he might have had. SE develops a big budget game for years but plants to release it only in Japan for now? Yeah, suuuure. Because they love losing money.

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wrowa

Member
That must mean good things then right? I mean it seems odd for the producer to tweet anything if they planned to just keep ignoring the west.

I think this is actually the most difficult person to gauge. In his positions he's probably perfectly aware of the chances for localization but he also likely has an emotional attachement to the game that makes him continue to push it.

In other words: The tweets could mean absolutely anything.

It's a possibility though. Square could and I've said this a couple times before, they could go the Namco route of releasing in Japan first before gauging on localizing a game or not.

Don't think so, at least not in Versus' case. Namco makes much smaller RPGs with less of a budget, their games are designed to be profitable by Japanese sales alone. SE tends to make larger scale developments (on consoles at least) and Versus in particular is rather unlikely to make a profit only with Japanese sales, considering how long it seems to be in development already.

edit: my point is there is no reason why someone with a connection to the gaming industry and for whatever reason wants to post on GameFAQs wouldn't just prove it and get a nice user level and a ton of credibility.

No one who is leaking info that he isn't actually allowed to share would ever use his verified real name.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't think so, at least not in Versus' case. Namco makes much smaller RPGs with less of a budget, their games are designed to be profitable by Japanese sales alone. SE tends to make larger scale developments (on consoles at least) and Versus in particular is rather unlikely to make a profit only with Japanese sales, considering how long it seems to be in development already.

Well I don't want to think so either. But I like to keep an open viewpoint on the good and the bad.
 
The tweets on that account are by the game's producer unless explicitly noted otherwise.

They are. Previous tweets pointed out how they were actually the developers. That's why I think that's a good news, and a bad news at the same time: they're working on bringing the game here, but they're still far away.
 

friz898

Member
As Americans we have always looked to JP with envy on games not being released here, or the fact that they almost-always get games first, especially JRPGs (duh).


With that being said, I think this is the longest list of big-names SE has ever had that are either not coming, or have not been announced yet to be localized, or have been announced, but we have NO IDEA when. (Versus, FFXHD).

It really is driving GAF crazy.

Off top of my head.

BDFF, Type-0, DQ7r, DQ10, Versus, FF X HD

If you consider KH 1.5 and 13-2, SE is going to take nearly $500 of my money 2013/2014.

(Assuming all those come here, even Type-0).

That is CRAZY. This company is still godly, even with their FF 13 troubles.

Oh and I completely forgot about FF 14 ARR, that's on my buy this Summer list as well.
 

Aeana

Member
They are. Previous tweets pointed out how they were actually the developers. That's why I think that's a good news, and a bad news at the same time: they're working on bringing the game here, but they're still far away.
I don't see any tweets from the last four days (since the long absence) that say they are by anyone other than Asano. The profile text very clearly says that they are by the producer unless stated otherwise.

That said, I don't think tweets from the developers have more weight than the producer. The developers have even less power over decisions like that.
 
I don't see any tweets from the last four days (since the long absence) that say they are by anyone other than Asano. The profile text very clearly says that they are by the producer unless stated otherwise.

That said, I don't think tweets from the developers have more weight than the producer. The developers have even less power over decisions like that.

Sorry, I was thinking developers as including every member of the team and the producer!
 

zashga

Member
Off top of my head.

BDFF, Type-0, DQ7r, DQ10, Versus, FF X HD

If you consider KH 1.5 and 13-2, SE is going to take nearly $500 of my money 2013/2014.

(Assuming all those come here, even Type-0).

Can I borrow some of your optimism? These BDFF tweets read more like trolling at this point, and I'll be amazed if we ever get Type-0 or DQX. Nintendo is probably our only hope when it comes to DQVII, which sends a chill down my spine.
 

nasos_333

Member
Can I borrow some of your optimism? These BDFF tweets read more like trolling at this point, and I'll be amazed if we ever get Type-0 or DQX. Nintendo is probably our only hope when it comes to DQVII, which sends a chill down my spine.

I dont see why not get Bravely Default, considering how huge 3DS is right now

But Type-0 has indeed zero chances, since PSP is no longer supported much
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
I dont see why not get Bravely Default, considering how huge 3DS is right now

But Type-0 has indeed zero chances, since PSP is no longer supported much

Localization cost and their estimation on how much money it would accrue. It's about profit and opportunity cost. If they don't see it as a worthwhile investment they won't do it.
 

nasos_333

Member
Localization cost and their estimation on how much money it would accrue. It's about profit and opportunity cost. If they don't see it as a worthwhile investment they won't do it.

The cost would be like zero comparing to the profit, it is a ready 70+ hours game with amazing art and millions of potential buyers

Cant get better than that, it is basically free money

I dont see how localization can possibly be more expensive than the profit from sales of a stunning and huge retail game to 20 million user install base

I am sure localization costs would be covered from a small fraction of the pre-orders alone
 

jwhit28

Member
Does the title actually have meaning or is it like Infinite Undiscovery? I always took Bravely Default as meaning proudly back to the basics RPG.
 

serplux

Member
Can I borrow some of your optimism? These BDFF tweets read more like trolling at this point, and I'll be amazed if we ever get Type-0 or DQX. Nintendo is probably our only hope when it comes to DQVII, which sends a chill down my spine.

Nintendo's done a good job at marketing Dragon Quest in the US/Europe and porting over the last few remakes. I don't see why you'd see them as being particularly bad, although Square Enix should be the guys doing the localization.
 
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