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Bravely Default: Flying Fairy twitter account says they can hear the overseas fans

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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
The cost would be like zero comparing to the profit, it is a ready 70+ hours game with amazing art and millions of potential buyers

Cant get better than that, it is basically free money

I dont see how localization can possibly be more expensive than the profit from sales of a stunning and huge retail game to 20 million user install base

I am sure localization costs would be covered from a small fraction of the pre-orders alone

As someone who works in video game localization, I can tell you that it gets pretty costly if you want to do it right within a relatively short period of time. The more complicated the game and the more text it has, the more difficult the localization becomes (obviously).

You also have to factor in the availability of the developer. Silicon Studio may not have the bandwidth to accommodate the programming tasks that are associated with a localization project.

Then there's the marketing cost that comes if you actually are interested in selling the game.

With Bravely Default, you also have to consider making changes to some of its more questionable content.

All in all, it adds up to be quite a bit. It's certainly not as expensive as making a game from scratch, but doing a localization properly can cost quite a bit.
 

DaBoss

Member
I feel like that GameFAQs guy is talking more now because the BD:FF twitter account mentions westerners and he is taking that as a confirmation and now saying more shit.
 

Pikma

Banned
My guess would be that the BDFF tweets mean they haven't made a decision at all yet.

Well, yeah, It's far from a confirmation but at least they're letting us know that they're aware of the situation here in the west, and that they're (at least) currently considering it. That's way better than the silence we've got since the game came out in Japan. Personally, I still have hope left, but at the same time I wouldn't bet on it.
 

nasos_333

Member
As someone who works in video game localization, I can tell you that it gets pretty costly if you want to do it right within a relatively short period of time. The more complicated the game and the more text it has, the more difficult the localization becomes (obviously).

You also have to factor in the availability of the developer. Silicon Studio may not have the bandwidth to accommodate the programming tasks that are associated with a localization project.

Then there's the marketing cost that comes if you actually are interested in selling the game.

With Bravely Default, you also have to consider making changes to some of its more questionable content.

All in all, it adds up to be quite a bit. It's certainly not as expensive as making a game from scratch, but doing a localization properly can cost quite a bit.

I still dont believe this cost would be anything much comparing to the sales profit from such a title
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I still dont believe this cost would be anything much comparing to the sales profit from such a title

That's for Square Enix to decide, I guess. They have to balance their resources and judge accordingly. I'm sure they'll put out the game if they deem it will make them enough money.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Let's just say that anything that the GameFAQs poster said is made up, but it has no bearing on whether or not Bravely Default is coming out in the west.

The only person I believe on GameFAQs is no one. Years of posting there has taught me this is a wise choice.
 

Glass Rebel

Member
Well, according to some members who've played it, Flying Fairy is the one that has to stay so. It would kind of look silly if they if they added Final Fantasy in there.

I thought it was the "brave" part that had to stay.

Now I look like a fool :(
 

demidar

Member
Honestly I don't really care what it's called as long as it comes over, but the chances of it coming over are still very slim.
 

nasos_333

Member
So even if the gamefaqs guy is wrong, if they decided to localize it, he'll get credit for shit he didn't do.

But if they dont, noone will believe him anymore

Goes both ways

The reason there is a chance he knows what he is talking about is the fact that he knew about All the Bravest before

It is all judged by his history, if he fails this one, he will never be able to claim anything else

And also this would happen even if he was right and indeed knew the situation and Square just decided to not release the game afterall
 

Exentryk

Member
Someone else on Gamefaqs has left a message for Kagari in a few lengthy posts quoted below. (Note that this person made an account a day ago)

You dismissed Aryllies claim as if youre the authority on Square Enix and the Final Fantasy brand. Guess what? Youre not. Stop dismissing information as if it isnt true, especially in a case like this where it is. Im honestly surprised nobody on NeoGaf has actually called you out on this, because there are a couple people who post on Gaf that are working on the localization (and have been playing stupid about it for a good 6 months now..). Then again, NDAs arent worth breaking at the risk of losing business (and possible deportation as a result), as juicy as the info might be.

So here we go..

As of last week, the game known as Final Fantasy Versus XIII was shown behind closed doors to people from Gamestop Corporate, along with Final Fantasy X HD Collection, FFXIII:LR (which is coming sooner than you think) and Final Fantasy XIV:RR. Marketing for Lightning Returns is going to startup sometime in April, so be on the lookout for that.

Final Fantasy XIV is a Playstation 3 title, will have a redemption code for the PS4 downloadable version at no extra charge. There are no plans for a full retail release of XIV on PS4.

The releases of LR, FFXIV AND Versus will be no longer than 3-4 months apart from one another, starting with LR. The idea is to re-establish the FF brand on the current platforms to generate interest/hype for the Next-Gen title which is in its infancy right now.

Final Fantasy "VERSUS XIII" pre-production began almost 4 years ago. The reason why its taken so long is due to a number of things, including manpower/resources being re-allocated to help finish Crystal Tools, work on FFXIV's re-working and work on the Luminous Engine. The game is NO LONGER AN ACTION-RPG. Its more in-line with traditional Final Fantasy and has been described to me as a combination of FFXII and the Classic ATB. seen in the older games. Still a Playstation 3 exclusive (you can thank/hate Sony for that) and is slated to release this Winter in Japan and North America (sorry Europe.) The game being shown for PS4 is NOT FFVXIII. Voice Recording sessions for the Japanese version have been happening in waves for awhile now, and actually finished up last month. Sessions for the English voice cast are slated to start sometime in July, although some work is being done in advance preparation for the E3 Trailer.

Speaking of which, expect Square to hold their own E3 briefing, for the first time in recent memory. There is simply too much to announce between the internally-developed titles and the Eidos stuff. "Versus" wont be playable until the Fall TGS. Dont expect much to be shown about the game leading up to its release, in terms of content. Theyre taking the FFVII approach with this one and not letting too much be known about the Game World prior to release, including the antagonist's identity.

And a quick note about the Vita/3DS. Dont expect any Square Enix retail releases on Vita aside from FFX. Square has very little confidence in the platform and the only reason X is seeing a Vita release is because its cost-efficient. Almost ALL of Square Enix's support will be focused towards 3DS/iOS. In fact, there isnt even a dedicated team working on Vita titles internally. FFX is being farmed-out.

Feel free to bookmark this post and come back to it over the next couple of months, starting next month when marketing begins for LR. As more info leaks out, the credibility of this post will also increase (and Aryllies).


Remember, just because you know people, doesnt mean you KNOW. And knowing people in the US Branch isnt something you can use to discredit "rumors". Communication between whats happening internally over at SQE Japan and the US Branch is minimal. If Kagari does in fact have connections, theyre not very informed ones. PR people and low-level community managers dont count as "sources". People on the development side however, do.

Remember, keep this post bookmarked.

Looking forward to playing Final Fantasy X again this Summer...before E3 ; )
 

Miker

Member
That was hilarious. Someone made a thread on one forum calling out someone else on another forum. Amazing.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
There's an inconsistency with this new rumor anyway. This poster claims there's an E3 trailer for Versus coming but the the other rumor poster says there isn't, as well as a localization is not being considered right now.
 

Exentryk

Member
Is it worth posting a new thread? It seems offtopic here. I'll make a new one if so.

There's an inconsistency with this new rumor anyway. This poster claims there's an E3 trailer for Versus coming but the the other rumor poster says there isn't.

Well, yeah, I read that too. But when I read "Versus is not an action RPG", I forgot everything else and raged for a second. XD
 

Shinta

Banned
Is it worth posting a new thread? It seems offtopic here. I'll make a new one if so.



Well, yeah, I read that too. But when I read "Versus is not an action RPG", I forgot everything else and raged for a second. XD

If Versus is really not an action RPG but is instead more classic, you can thank all the haters that have made it their mission in life to destroy the FF brand online for the last 4 years.

This is what it looks like for a series to stay in the past to cater to purists, rather than move forward with something new.

It's a big "if" though. I don't know if I believe anything that guy said. Still an entertaining read.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I don't normally like to sound internet elitist, but really, if you want to sound credible in anyway at all, don't post on GameFAQs. Or rather, don't post there first. GameFAQs rumors don't ever come true. They're as real as the moderators there. Or must we all forget the Brawl Board rumor mill?

What's that, you don't remember any rumors from that board at that time? Of course you don't, because it's GameFAQs and nothing said there is significant anyway.
 

fates

Member
Well this has become a sad situation.

The thing with these Gamefaqs "rumors": Absolutely no accountability. The people can make up the most intricate of stories, get people's hopes up intentionally, then sit back and laugh when their "time" comes and nothing happens.

I don't buy any of them, at all. These stories are things that can be constructed by putting together bits and pieces of information everyone is aware of.

And if you look at the statements they make, it's always vague. Look this Bravely Default "source". No time frames, nothing.

Not to mention what I said a while ago... remember what Square Enix was doing just to block the Tifa video for DDFF? Seriously, youtube videos were being taken down within minutes of being posted, it was pretty amazing in a way. With this in consideration, do you really think Square Enix was going to have someone privy to these "meetings" breaking NDAs on Gamefaqs like its no one's business? No way.

In short, they are quite possibly the most effective troll if you let them get you.

My guess would be that the BDFF tweets mean they haven't made a decision at all yet.

I'm inclined to agree, sadly. Guess it depends on who mans this twitter account. If it's the developers themselves, I imagine they'd want it overseas from day one. But I think the final decision lies out of their hands.
 

DasMarcos

Banned
This state of affairs makes me sad for a future release of Bravely Default. I went ahead and imported a copy because I don't have high hopes for its release in the states.
 

DasMarcos

Banned
I'm assuming you have a JP 3DS... right?

Of course fellow GAFer. It's a White LL. :p I'm just a bit apprehensive as I read from other American reviewers that some of the reading can get quite difficult of one is not entirely proficient in the language. I wouldn't consider my Japanese entirely proficient so I was holding off.
 

demidar

Member
Of course fellow GAFer. It's a White LL. :p I'm just a bit apprehensive as I read from other American reviewers that some of the reading can get quite difficult of one is not entirely proficient in the language. I wouldn't consider my Japanese entirely proficient so I was holding off.

Yeah but the only way to get proficient is to start reading that stuff, you'll be interested in the reading because the game's story is good (I assume).
 

zashga

Member
Nintendo's done a good job at marketing Dragon Quest in the US/Europe and porting over the last few remakes. I don't see why you'd see them as being particularly bad, although Square Enix should be the guys doing the localization.

That came across the wrong way; I think Nintendo does a great job at localization. The bad part is that they're also unreliable about bringing good games over at all. They literally made us beg for Xenoblade, just to pick one recent example. Leaving a promising game up to Nintendo's discretion is a roll of the dice. Even something like DQVII is sadly not a given.
 
I don't normally like to sound internet elitist, but really, if you want to sound credible in anyway at all, don't post on GameFAQs. Or rather, don't post there first. GameFAQs rumors don't ever come true. They're as real as the moderators there. Or must we all forget the Brawl Board rumor mill?

What's that, you don't remember any rumors from that board at that time? Of course you don't, because it's GameFAQs and nothing said there is significant anyway.
I think it's a valid strategy. If you are going to leak something on a message board, do it somewhere less conspicuous. Though really the best way to leak is the crazy buttocks on a train method.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Fatal Frame 2 Wii was leaked on GameFAQs. :p
As was Castlevania Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia. Granted, that account had no history behind it but the person behind the leaks still lost her job iirc.

Edit: Crazy buttocks might be my favourite poster.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
FFX HD before E3. With one small animation shown. When they announced KH 1.5 with much more media...and a fall date for the west.

Yep, seems legit. That's without bringing Versus up.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I had a dream last night that the title shows up on an english retail site with a Q3 release :(
 

Videoneon

Member
My favorite leaks are the ones that say the things I really want to see happen.

Ya. I wish lupinko would leak Bravely Default!!! He will not betray.

I think it's a valid strategy. If you are going to leak something on a message board, do it somewhere less conspicuous. Though really the best way to leak is the crazy buttocks on a train method.

I agree. God only knows what convinced Aryilles and psxfreak to tip their hand (whether those hands exist or not) in the first place but as GameFAQs is known for being "noisy" for lack of a better word (high forum traffic, little registration/alts restriction until you get yourself caught, most school-aged and otherwise younger people do not have their own paid e-mail accounts.) Its reputation precedes itself. I've been haunting the Bravely Default board for a while now and in one of his posts Aryilles asked people to keep his leak and his existence quiet.

I'm not following Versus, but I'd hope Aryilles' Bravely Default claims have merit. I couldn't find reason to be skeptical just by virtue of purporting to be an insider or the other things he'd talk about like Dragon Quest, and secondary to that I'd just feel like an idiot. But if it happens, it happens, and this did make me stop and think that I may have little reason to trust anyone claiming to have information here.

And though they aren't necessarily related, it would signify a greater likelihood for Bravely Default localization than anything we have to go on right now. =P
 

Jarekx

Member
Wow, that was kind of..weird.

I guess he created an alt to try and discredit Kagari? If that's the case all it really did was throw his own credibility under the bus with all the inconsistencies.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
Wow, that was kind of..weird.

I guess he created an alt to try and discredit Kagari? If that's the case all it really did was throw his own credibility under the bus with all the inconsistencies.

I don't think he did otherwise his post would be consistent all the way through, although he does "fix"/clarify in a later post. Definitely a different poster anyway.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I think it's a different guy, sentence structure and tone is different IMO.

Anyway, I've archived his message.

I look forward to see how this pans out.
 

fates

Member
Yeah but the only way to get proficient is to start reading that stuff, you'll be interested in the reading because the game's story is good (I assume).

I used to import Super Robot Wars games, but after I played OG1 and 2 localized, I just couldn't enjoy them without being able to read them. Last one I did import was W. I still think Alpha 3 was worth it though because
I got it signed by all of JAM Project.

I think it's a valid strategy. If you are going to leak something on a message board, do it somewhere less conspicuous. Though really the best way to leak is the crazy buttocks on a train method.

I'd think a better place would be a chan or something due to the anonymity. Breaking NDAs can be serious business and it's probably a lot easier to trace GameFAQs posts.

That's really what made me not buy this entire thing with this "source". Here's a guy who is allegedly sitting in Square Enix's meetings, leaking information that would generate buzz and attention on gaming blogs. This guy would be identified and in no time.
 
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