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[Principate]

are we even going to compare the Vita boost at Price Drop to the 3DS boost at Price Drop?

What was the 3DS boost again I forget.

 

[SmokyDave]

Next up, DOA+. I wonder why Team Ninja keeps bothering with Vita, it's looking like DOAD will have outsold all their Vita efforts combined.

Depends on the RoI, I guess. We'll see if they keep making Vita stuff.

 

[RyougaSaotome]

I had higher expectations because it's true that it was available on the store as a f2p game but Japanese people do still like to buy physical copies. Also it does not cost 5000 yen but more around 4000 yen, so it was a bugdet release in Japan. Also: does f2p means that it was completely free? Because if many contents must be purchased anyway, being a MMORPG, the cost of the retail version might be justified. Also: many people reported anecdotal evidence on how PSO2 was selling and in some stores was the second best selling game. Also: was there also a bundle? Also: it was released the week of the price cut, when generally people buy something. I mean, ok it is a f2p game, but there were reasons, many reasons, to think it could have done better.

Edit: it costs 5229 yen but I saw a 4200 yen version around. My point still stands.

And it did sell. Quite a bit in fact.

Most of the real content is still free. The packaged version comes with a month of the premium account (like 1,400 Yen or something, not sure the exact monthly cost), and a few free items/weapons. Nothing that makes the game worth spending 5,229 on. Again, the only real reason to bite is because you have no space on your memory card, or you're an importer who wants to play while on your US PSN account.

There really are very few good reasons anybody would buy this. That's why this number is surprisingly solid.

 

[Hero]

I think that this tell us the most important thing about Vita, honestly.
New colors, price cut and "interesting" games (I don't know how many of the actually existing Vita games can aim to sell hugely more than Senran Kagura) set those numbers.
Numbers that are good, but lower than a normal 3DS week, and not so HUGE in general terms.

Maybe it can sustain this level for a week or two thanks to Soul Sacrifice but that seems like that's it for the foreseeable future, right?

Only now you're worried about Vita sales?

I said it's worrying but I didn't say to me.

 

[Canis lupus]

Vita did good!

 

[DaBoss]

Next up, DOA+. I wonder why Team Ninja keeps bothering with Vita, it's looking like DOAD will have outsold all their Vita efforts combined.

Maybe the game caters towards the Vita crowd in Japan? lol

 

[electroplankton]

Japan has been much more open to digital download recently. We've seen that with ~700k copies sold of Animal Crossing for example. PSO case is also a different case because there is the option to get it for free or pay 5k yen (although you get more DLC stuff when buying the retail version). It is not just a choice between owning the retail or digital download version.

The 4200 yen is probably Amazon price. They discount every single game.

Im pretty sure its F2P in the sense that you don't have to spend a penny. There is in game currency to buy things but you don't need to.

This is why I and others are surprised it even sold as much as it did. I would assume most people would just download it.

I think the fact the game is available completely free massively overrides any of the points you make. Like I said before..... just use that money to buy a memory card.

Also: it was one of the most popular brands on PSP, even though with another genre.

Anyway, I did not say it bombed or something. It actually did pretty good being available for free as a digital version. I just said I had higher expectations (something more like 80k) and before knowing SK sales, I think many people though PSO2 was the game it would have sold the most this week on Vita.

 

[test_account]

Next up, DOA+. I wonder why Team Ninja keeps bothering with Vita, it's looking like DOAD will have outsold all their Vita efforts combined.

They were happy with the Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 Vita sales, i guess that is why they did Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Vita as well.

 

[Oersted]

are we even going to compare the Vita boost at Price Drop to the 3DS boost at Price Drop?

That would be cruel.

 

[DragonSworne]

Disappointing vita numbers...

I think sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

 

[duckroll]

Also: it was one of the most popular brands on PSP, even though with another genre.

Anyway, I did not say it bombed or something. It actually did pretty good being available for free as a digital version. I just said I had higher expectations (something more like 80k) and before knowing SK sales, I think many people though PSO2 was the game it would have sold the most this week on Vita.

I didn't expect PSO2 to even sell 50k. People must really like costumes.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Disappointing numbers...

Sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

Indeed.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

What was the 3DS boost again I forget.

I forget too, I think that is the point most people forgot the 3DS went up dramatically

looking at 60K I dunno man

 

[Artemisia]

are we even going to compare the Vita boost at Price Drop to the 3DS boost at Price Drop?

please do, I don't remember how significant the 3DS boost was.

 

[electroplankton]

I didn't expect PSO2 to even sell 50k. People must really like costumes.

People must really want some game to play on their Vita, probably

 

[Road]

Shining Ark did awful. Quite a bad sign for God Eater 2.

PSP has been dying since last year.

Namco should have released GE2 beta for the PSP last year and then release the 3DS finished enhanced version this year.

 

[Frillen]

Decent Vita numbers, should hold or increase next week with Soul Sacrifice. Then decrease downwards to 10k within weeks. I think it will be under 20k in four weeks.

 

[Bruno MB]

By the way, PSV Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 > WIU Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge

 

[RyougaSaotome]

I didn't expect PSO2 to even sell 50k. People must really like costumes.

Dude, I was expecting 30k at best. I was shocked to find the game sold out at my local stores.

Combined with people grabbing the digital version, I bet Sega is pretty damn happy right now.

 

[noobie]

Disappointing vita numbers...

I think sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

i expect it to stabilize it around 17k

 

[cw_sasuke]

Disappointing numbers...

Sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

Inafune will save the Vita, dont worry.

 

[OmegaTreeFish]

Disappointing vita numbers...

I think sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

even with SS release?

 

[Opus Angelorum]

The 3DS sold 215,000 (16,415 prior) the week after price-drop.

 

[Maedhros]

Disappointing vita numbers...

I think sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

Let's make bet?

Vita will be between 40~55k next week.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

That would be cruel.

It would at least be reality

people forget 3DS was dead once, fair is fair

 

[maquiladora]

At least the Wii U slide has stalled.

 

[duckroll]

People must really want some game to play on their Vita, probably

They don't have to buy the game to play it though.

 

[Mpl90]

PSP has been dying since last year.

Namco should have released GE2 beta for the PSP last year and then release the 3DS finished enhanced version this year.

Right, but I fear God Eater 2 could really do bad numbers. It's on PSP (console that can't guarantee good sales for games like in the past years) and Vita. A GE2: Burst on 3DS/Vita seems necessary to me in the future.

 

[Sage00]

That's a very PS3 pre-slim 2007 esque bump for the Vita.

 

[Principate]

The 3DS sold 215,000 (16,415 week prior) the week after price-drop.

Granted the 3DS price drop was bigger, but damn... I suppose that's the difference in having announced popular software on the way.

 

[Mr Swine]

Disappointing vita numbers...

I think sales are going to drop down to 20k next week and then back down to 10k the following weeks.

If Sony are lucky Vita sales will be around 50k but the week after it will go down to 30k and so on

 

[Nibel]

By the way, PSV Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 > WIU Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge

This isn't exactly an achievement if you look up with what NGS2 is competing with here

But yeah, expected more devastating from Wii U and Vita did good! Hopefully SS will give it another boost

 

[Canis lupus]

The 3DS sold 215,000 (16,415 prior) the week after price-drop.

Pricedrop to 15k Yen.

 

[Myshkin]

How does the 62,543 PSVita number calculate? Obviously the 4x statement wasn't accurate.

one 2-week period vs the prior 2-week period, 4x

 

[Smiles and Cries]

They don't have to buy the game to play it though.

why are they allowing free games in the charts?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Granted the 3DS price drop was bigger, but damn... I suppose that's the difference in having announced popular software on the way.

Also 3DS had to compete withalready old hardware, where the Vita has to compete against the 3DS which has games like Monster Hunter 4 lined up. Looking back Nintendo did the right thing just hitting that panic button as soons as possible.

 

[DragonSworne]

even with SS release?

I don't think SS will make an impact on hardware sales.

No vita game really has.

 

[duckroll]

why are they allowing free games in the charts?

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

[Principate]

one 2-week period vs the prior 2-week period, 4x

Haha I was I had a feeling that was the case.

I don't think SS will make an impact on hardware sales.

No vita game really has.

Oh they have they just drop to below 10k in the proceeding week.

 

[Maedhros]

Right, but I fear God Eater 2 could really do bad numbers. It's on PSP (console that can't guarantee good sales for games like in the past years) and Vita. A GE2: Burst on 3DS/Vita seems necessary to me in the future.

Why do you think that? I don't think comparing Shining Ark to God Eater 2 makes sense at all.
And I don't think it'll get a 3DS version, at all.

 

[Oersted]

It would at least be reality

people forget 3DS was dead once, fair is fair

Allright then.

It was, more or less:

4.000 to 200 000

 

[Ratrat]

Disappointing numbers for the online only f2p down port! Btw, looking at reviews some buyers were horridly misinformed. Literally throwing away their money.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

The 3DS sold 215,000 (16,415 prior) the week after price-drop.

thanks totally forgot about these numbers. LL launch was the next spike too

 

[test_account]

Also: it was one of the most popular brands on PSP, even though with another genre.

Anyway, I did not say it bombed or something. It actually did pretty good being available for free as a digital version. I just said I had higher expectations (something more like 80k) and before knowing SK sales, I think many people though PSO2 was the game it would have sold the most this week on Vita.

The PSP games were mostly offline singleplayer/multiplayer stuff (did they even have online play?), so it is a different game in that regards.

Sure, no problem for having higher expectations I just say why i had lower expectations for it.

That would be cruel.

I would say that it would only be cruel if someone had cruel intention for posting it. Here are the comparison (without cruel intentions hehe ) , both Famitsu numbers:

3DS = 3,701 to 214,821 (one model, 10k yen pricedrop)

Vita = 11,669 to 60,561 (two models, 5k yen pricedrop and 10k yen pricedrop)

People must really want some game to play on their Vita, probably

I hope for Nintendo's sake that this is the case with the WiiU as well. It would be bad if the current WiiU owners are little interested in the upcoming games.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

sales charts are for sales right, if a game is free how can it be counted as a sale?

 

[GhostOfLawlight]

I don't think SS will make an impact on hardware sales.

No vita game really has.

Vita sales increased by 150% when Persona 4 Golden got released. 380% when Hatsune Miku was released. Pretty sure those are impacts.

 

[Maedhros]

sales charts are for sales right, if a game is free how can it be counted as a sale?

It's a limited retail edition. But the game by itself is free.

People expecting it to sell great were desilusional.

 

[test_account]

The 3DS sold 215,000 (16,415 prior) the week after price-drop.

I guess you mean after the 3DS price-drop announcement? The week after the actual pricedrop, the 3DS sold 107,462 (Famitsu number).

 

[Lan_97]

Physical release of PSO2 charting so high is pretty impressive.

Spoiler

please bring it to na

 

[Hellraider]

God eater 2 should have moved to 3ds the moment 3G was announced.The delay for (probably) the Vita version doesn't exactly help either.I expect it to do less than Burst.
The bad thing about it's situation is that the planned (?) burst version doesn't really bode well.It's not like a Vita enhanced port screams of success.

We will see.