Then why the fuck would he announce The Phantom Pain if it was going to overshadow MGS:GZ?
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The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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Then why the fuck would he announce The Phantom Pain if it was going to overshadow MGS:GZ?
Jest Chillin
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If they're two games, they could easily come out at different times.. far enough apart that they wouldn't compete with each other.
Yeah, I really could see him keeping up the act. He enjoys messing with us (the fans) in a good way.
I still think they'll be chapters in the same game. Kojima has gone to chapter storytelling.
I'd have more respect for him if he did, honestly. This whole Phantom Pain thing is shaping up to be hilariously entertaining.
This is great.
a secret-boss
Banned
Dangling that carrot
honestly
Oh man if it is Kojima in a wig with a fake stache that would be amazing.
Callibretto
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wait, I think I get it, Phantom Pain is an experimental "pilot" game for next gen consoles, the pilot will be for ps360, but if it succeed than the final game will be on ps4/720
it's not metal gear solid v, but they're using some asset from ground zeroes to minimize cost
it's not metal gear solid v, but they're using some asset from ground zeroes to minimize cost
jacksepticeye
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I would love if this dude is just a front man cover up for Kojima and there will be a big troll face reveal at some later date.
Either way I'm still 100% positive what I saw was a metal gear game. if not it looks far too much like it to not be considered a rip off
Either way I'm still 100% positive what I saw was a metal gear game. if not it looks far too much like it to not be considered a rip off
CosmicGroinPull
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Haha is the publicity returns worth going as far as hiring an actor? This is so weird.
Callibretto
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maybe there really is a swedish developer working with Kojima on Phantom Pain, ala Lord of Shadows or MGRising
JehutyRunner
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Here's a thought that may have been discussed already, I don't know. Anyways, what are the chances Moby Dick could eventually become the name for Kojima Productions LA?
CosmicGroinPull
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Callibretto
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I guess i'll make my prediction. Kojima is overseeing this new game at the western studio branch of Koji Pro and in typical Kojima fashion he is hyping it in a crazy way. Phantom Pain is Metal Gear in name and characters only with fairly different gameplay, and a story that ultimately has little bearing on the fiction as a whole. They hire an actor to do this interview thing to keep the ruse up until the next gen consoles are more in sight.
Was gonna say that.
Was gonna say that.
It's all in good fun, calm down.
If only more companies did this.
jacksepticeye
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Maybe it's a western dev making a prequel to MGS V? Like Kojima is overseeing it but letting them have full control, and they're calling it the Phantom Pain because calling it Metal Gear without Kojima would make fans get really annoyed or if it turned out bad "you ruined metal gear" bla bla bla.
Who knows, I'm just spit ballin
Did you read what I wrote? The Phantom Pain technically is NOT Metal Gear as far as we know it. We are assuming it is based on the analyses and speculations and the obvious clues that Kojima left in that trailer. The reason he is keeping it a secret is because he doesn't want the game(TPP/MGS5) to overshadow GZ and he didn't expect the fans to actually notice it and decipher every single frame from that trailer.
don't judge a book by it's cover.
Agreed. BUT why is everyone all of a sudden interested in a new developer and new development studio that came out of no where and they are promoting his game and his name on TV next to legendary Miyamoto? Really? You really think an unknown person would get that kind of attention all of a sudden? I don't think so. There is gotta be a logical explanation behind this and it is obvious, we figured it out moments after the trailer was premiered at the VGAs. Plain and simple, Kojima and Geoff and everybody at Kojima Productions and Konami planned this for months and they know what they are doing although people are getting more confused but this is the kinda of shit that I appreciate, a good weird sense of humor and Kojima took it to the next level. Genius man indeed.
Jest Chillin
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I don't think Kojima was underestimating the fanbase in figuring those things out. Snake Crawl, Psycho Mantis look-alike, etc.. are pretty easy to notice things. He probably figured the title would stay hidden for longer than 24 hours but that's about it.
I really don't think he's worried about overshadowing at all. It doesn't make sense that he would be. I haven't seen anything to suggest that MGS fans would pick up one game over the other with exception to Rising but that's not MGS gameplay.
I really don't think he's worried about overshadowing at all. It doesn't make sense that he would be. I haven't seen anything to suggest that MGS fans would pick up one game over the other with exception to Rising but that's not MGS gameplay.
VibratingDonkey
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I love this goofy ass campaign, and just the fact that something like it is still allowed to be a thing.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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When does this interview air?
tomorrow night I'm guessing.
Spike TV, Thursday 10pm(PDT) or Friday 1AM(EDT).
Looking at the Ground Zeroes trailer again and it all seem like in-engine stuff, but likely not for this generation consoles. It looks more like it was done on early next-gen dev kits.
This seems likely, and totally awesome. Though I'm not sure if they will retain the same gameplay through out the chapters. Ground Zeroes is open world. Phantom Pain does not seem at all like that. But that could be interesting to have such different experiences with each chapter.
Ground Zeroes was confirmed on day 1 to be running on a PC.
Palette Swap
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It would be amusing for Kojima to give his Alan Smithee a face.
I'd also laugh if the Phantom Pain really turned out to a separate, non MGS, non Kojima game. I can't really imagine it though. The only thing worse than that would be Ricochet 2 really being Ricochet 2.
I'd also laugh if the Phantom Pain really turned out to a separate, non MGS, non Kojima game. I can't really imagine it though. The only thing worse than that would be Ricochet 2 really being Ricochet 2.
flipswitch
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Didn't they say comparable specs to PS360? Even with that said, it still looks more advanced than anything current gen can render. I'm guessing this is what next-gen consoles ver. will look like.
I thought for the first few minutes that it was a live action trailer with the camera movement.
Like some of the other titles so far demoed for Playstation 4. And technically the early dev kits were just PC's with similar components targeted final hardware specs. So the answer was not dishonest.
They can't really say it's running on early Playstation 4 hardware 5 months before the Playstation 4 is even announced.
We'll know soon enough anyways. I just kinda hope it's the opposite situation of what happened to the MGS4 stuff they showed on early hardware (final product was visually downgraded).
I am/was pretty calmed and I welcome this kind of stuff, but after reading those tweets and seeing geoff exaggerate the event, is turning a cool original thing into a lame circus.
PC at "PS3" settings. Looking at it up close it definitely seems like what we saw will be similar to the current gen versions, it hid a lot of flaws really intelligently. I'm sure that the current gen versions won't quite as good or run as smooth but it'll be close.
ComputerMKII
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I just woke up.
Did I miss anything?
Did I miss anything?
Nope. It won't air until 12:30am EDT so in about 15.5 hours.
AuthenticM
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So it airs on friday, not thursday ?
Yeah. It's technically part of Spike's Thursday night lineup so they say Thursday to avoid confusion.
AuthenticM
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Does it always air this late ? It seems kinda crazy, considering most people work on Friday mornings.
Yeah, it always has. I have to get up for work at 3:45am tomorrow so I'll just watch it when I get up.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The longer this all goes on the more in danger it gets of not being funny and just kinda... childish.
That's how I'm beginning to feel at this point. Was funny at first, but they're getting close to "running gag abuse" territory.
Hopefully the interview is amusing enough to justify keeping this facade going.
SkylineRKR
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Ground Zeroes had a lot of darkness which is easier to render, perhaps the thing thats not possible is the extensive lighting being used. But I think Tomb Raider is not all that far from GZ playable footage.
That was never problem for Kojima.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vukcV64pn3s#t=57s
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