Schnozberry
Member
Make Metroidvania for the 3DS, and make the big budget western gunslinger action game for the Wii U with all the multiplayer accoutrements and everybody can be happy.
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Eternal Darkness Fifth Extension - GRANTED 12/20/12
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Make Metroidvania for the 3DS, and make the big budget western gunslinger action game for the Wii U with all the multiplayer accoutrements and everybody can be happy.
Yes, that could be another cool way to to use the GamePad. It reminds me of how Silent Hill: Shattered Memories had the player listen for eerie sound of static noise to determine the location of ghosts, then use the smartphone's camera reveal them with.
Zoramon089
Banned
Yeah, except for console Metroid fans..
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Metroid Prime seems like a thrifty game in a number of ways.
There's virtually no voice acting, almost no cut scenes. MP3 had the most, and it was less than most comparable games.
A big budget revival of Eternal Darkness, up to current standards, I could see that being a huge production. Especially if it follows multiple characters in multiple timelines. Each requiring a different cast, environments, NPCs, etc.
Schnozberry
Member
I don't think another Metroidvania would be a system seller for Nintendo. They might be able to pull off different pacing for the single player and multiplayer experiences, but that would be one hell of an exercise in plate spinning. I just think it would be more of a system seller if it was an action game with adventure and discovery components instead of the opposite.
Schnozberry
Member
I can't see Nintendo reviving it, unless some well respected internal partner like Retro came to them and pitched a fantastic idea. I guess time will tell.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Bring back Dyack
Synth_floyd
Banned
Letting the trademark go is a negative freeroll. They have nothing to gain by letting it go. Maybe in 20 years they'll find a use for it and make a game.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Kid Icarus was one of the most asked for revivals of all-time. The first title GREATLY outsold Eternal Darkness. Kid Icarus shipped close to 2 million worldwide, while Eternal Darkness supposively sold around 200k worldwide. Uprising sold 140k in America alone its first month.
Putting Treasure (a developer know for creating niche, poorly selling titles) on Sin and Punishment 2 is COMPLETELY different then putting one of your biggest western developers on a similar niche sequel. What's sad is that there possibly was more demand for S&P2 then ED2, and we saw how that turned out.
If Eternal Darkness 2 comes back, it will be through someone like N-Space or maybe even Tecmo.
Or this.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If they are :/
Yeah, this seems like non-news. Maybe they'll put the GC game on the WiiU store or something.
this one was the previous Trademark.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:1683k3.2.2
The currently one.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:1683k3.2.1
December 19, 2009 to February 10, 2010
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:1683k3.2.2
The currently one.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:1683k3.2.1
December 19, 2009 to February 10, 2010
akidnamededdy
Banned
Retro has multiple teams now though, don't they?
And I mean...a hypothetical Eternal Darkness 2 doesn't need to be a $200 million cutting-edge production or something. A relatively modest production with some nifty Gamepad effects would be enough to appease the series' (admittedly small, but vocal) fanbase, show off some more of that asymmetric gameplay Nintendo's going on about, and maybe attract some new fans (or some of the people ITT who've said they'd buy a Wii U for ED2). And it wouldn't need to sell a HUGE amount.
Anyway, all just fun speculation. I would really like to see Retro do a new IP, but I'm not gonna complain if they keep cranking out solid entries in existing series, either.
EDIT: just got your point about using valuable resources on unprofitable projects. I can see that, I suppose--though a smaller project in an unfamiliar IP might be a good way to break in some of the new hires without bogging down a bigger project...maybe.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
YES. MORE SURVIVAL HORROW
Hmm, good points. Still, with a strong enough promotional push and strong enough ideas at the core, they could effectively treat a Retro-made ED2 as a completely new franchise, in which case they may perceive its sales potential differently. Wouldn't you agree that's possible, and not altogether unlikely?
If they're going to treat something like a new franchise, they might as well make a new franchise.
How cool would it be to playing the game and then suddenly you have the same character you're playing as banging on the gamepad screen yelling at you that what's happening on the TV isn't real, or putting you down, or telling you the character on the TV is an impostor?
I think the gamepad could be used to great effect in a game like Eternal Darkness.
I think the gamepad could be used to great effect in a game like Eternal Darkness.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
Off topic but: I want Amnesia to come out for the Wii U
And of course the gamepad could take a turn as the Book of Darkness (or whatever it was called).
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
It just all goes back to any Retro team (if there are two or more) being able to make another DCKR for a lesser budget that will surely have a much better selling and console moving potential then any form of a sequel to Eternal Darkness would on an Nintendo console.
Like I said before, I love Eternal Darkness and would be all over a Retro-developed sequel.... But no. I see no reason why, if Nintendo wanted Retro to develop something that they were going to treat like a new franchise, that they would limit Retro to a franchise that has very low selling potential and doesn't exactly click with their main fan-base anyways. It's not exactly like Eternal Darkness is a game in some genre that has shown huge selling or console moving potential like a FPS. The horror genre in gaming is dying. Even the largest franchises in the genre, like Resident Evil and Dead Space, are being shifted to a more action-oriented focus.
So if Nintendo was going to market some game as a huge new franchise of theirs, I see no reason why it wouldn't be something like a FPS or either in a genre that has a much larger chance of bringing a new audience to the platform or selling well to their already established fanbase.
Lysander91
Banned
I bet that Eternal Darkness will be one of the first GCN Virtual Console games. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high.
Yeah, we're living in a totally different era when it comes to screwing with people. The potential is staggering.
BassForever
Member
I refuse to get hyped until it's confirmed
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If selling systems is the absolute directive, I don't see why ANY Metroid game would be developed.
ugh_the_boot
Banned
This was one of my fave games of the GCN era, it was so polished along with the incredibly dark atmosphere. I remember firing this game up the first time you start with Pious Augutus and as you creep closer to the first dead body a torch on the wall crackles as your character looks at in in shock. Loved the grisly endings some of them got....my fave character being Anthony (814 AD) messenger to Charlemagne and how he deteriorated over time. I used to carry the torch around because as he got worse he would shield himself more and more from the flame. Also when he wields that huge two-handed sword he would start to drag it along the ground kinda like pyramid head. Another fave character was Dr Edwin Lindsay (1983 AD) because of all his awesome tools and cuz it was the first time I really felt like I was using Indiana Jones in a game. Edward Riovas (1952 AD) despite not being my fave character/chapter has some of the best voice acting i've ever heard during those grisly autopsy reports. Man those were awesome. I used to fire those up for mates when they would come around just to show off the game.
I even loved the little things like the voice that says "Nintendo" when loading up and the quote "You too will come to understand, fear as I have....BOOM" (awesome bass drop at the end). The magic system got a bit convoluted towards the end along with some of the bosses but it was those early moments that really blew me away. It was the game that got me into H.P Lovecraft books where I discovered the brilliant short story "In the Walls of Eryx".
I play my games quite loud and my dad got into the habit of just knocking on my door to let me know sometimes especially if it was late and everyone was asleep. So playing this really late one night, I heard the knock, so I turn it down a couple of notches. A few minutes later I hear the knock again so I turn it down even more (very quiet by this stage), when I heard the third knock I was like "WHAT!!" got up and opened the door to find nobody there. I was like "weird", but when I sat back down to play I realised it was the damn sanity meter on the game...lol. Awesome stuff!
So I found out Retro hired an artist in 2012 that is well known for her horror type creatures.
http://beastofoblivion.deviantart.com/gallery/
Edit: Am I allowed to post some of the art?
http://beastofoblivion.deviantart.com/gallery/
Edit: Am I allowed to post some of the art?
TheRedSnifit
Member
If true, it'd be awesome. Needs to be developed by Retro.
Alcotholic
Banned
I highly doubt it, but it would be cool regardless.
They said they were working a game everyone wants them to make.
And as far as I know, no one asked Retro to develop ED2.
frankie_baby
Member
Nintendo or GAF?
frankie_baby
Member
Battersea Power Station
Member
OP, did you post this at 3:33 on purpose?
no at all why? ._.
Oh lordy.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
The first four extensions sure resulted in new games.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
BassForever
Member
Majukun
Member
never liked the original game as much as many people did...gameplay was clunky and the sanity effects were a bit lame because a menace was never real..it would have been cool if sometimes something WAS REALLY happening,to keep you on the edge.
also i would have kept hidden the sanity meter,so that you wouldn't have know for sure when you were on the verge of insanity...knowing when the meter was empty ruined the surprise
also i would have kept hidden the sanity meter,so that you wouldn't have know for sure when you were on the verge of insanity...knowing when the meter was empty ruined the surprise
Well, if Eternal Darkness showed us anything, OP is in for a night to remember!That's freaky
evilromero
Member
Man, if Retro Studies was behind this I would be a happy camper. ED was one of the best games on the GCN and I can only imagine it being way better with Retro tweaking every aspect of the design. I'll be disappointed if this isn't announced now.