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Lucy Bradshaw - You don't want to play SimCity offline!
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Rebel Leader
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All you needed to know is this:
Lucy Bradshaw said:
That's it. Everything else is just more juicy meat.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
The guys who made SimCity would walk into a job with another publisher, maybe not after this fuck up, but before the game released they all could have left en mass and gone as a group to another publisher and made a proper metropolis simulator.
There's always Kickstarter!
dragonelite
Member
Too soon man, too soon.
lastplayed
Member
To play devil's advocate here - and ignoring all the clandestine gubbins and misrepresentation that's gone on in the background, which I've ranted about elsewhere - I'm broadly okay with the idea of throwing out old concepts to make something new; if you feel you have to throw SP out because you've got a great and exciting new MP idea, fine. I don't begrudge the existence of Quake 3, despite being one of those weirdos who favours the SP in FPSes. The old games won't go away; there's still ample other means to get the classic SC fix.
They dropped the number from the title for this iteration. I wonder if half the problem is that they didn't go far enough: If the game was called SimCities, I suspect it'd be more instantly clear when you look at the box that something different was on offer, and people could evaluate it in that regard.
They dropped the number from the title for this iteration. I wonder if half the problem is that they didn't go far enough: If the game was called SimCities, I suspect it'd be more instantly clear when you look at the box that something different was on offer, and people could evaluate it in that regard.
You didnt play Ninja Blade, did you?
It's not even a real multiplayer game. It's not a real single player game and not a real MP one. It's like the evil side of what Demon's Souls did. You play alone, but you have to play alone in a certain way that helps other people. Or else you are playing alone multiple times pretending you're other people.
IISANDERII
Member
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Good I waited on buying the game. Now I probably never will unless I can really play it offline. Fuck this always online shit.
dragonelite
Member
Just admit you're wrong it is hard but the only way to grow as a person or company but then again we are speaking about EA.
ebullientprism
Member
CrankyKong
Member
Why can't they just make AI city mayors like in Sim City 3000?
A Sentient Keyboard
Member
whatevermort
Member
Thousands? Well, let's assume that there are thousands of happy customers. That's alright. You only need to sell thousands of copies to justify dev costs of a AAA game these days, right?
OH NO WAIT. HANG ON.
OH NO WAIT. HANG ON.
Hmmm, lies. Sweet! She really seems to be an expert on modern marketing. Why waste your limited time in the limelight on stating something that is true, when you can just lie, inspire the high-school debate-club types, and by doing so produce something that looks like a legitimate argument among the populace?
Wickerbasket
Member
Not even close, when people finally got to play Half Life 2 there was an amazing game there.
Everything about Sim City is a clusterfuck, including most of the simulation modelling. All of the compromises they made so they could make it online only make it a poorer game.
You're right that the problems might have been forgotten about if the game was anywhere near as good as Half Life 2, but that's unrealistic. As it is now, it's not even better than any of the previous Sim City games.
Oh no, she says that she knows you exist, she just doesn't care.
grimshawish
Banned
When did Half Life 2 launch? Oh yeah...
Wickerbasket
Member
And people still complain about Steam DRM anyway, even though you can play games offline with it. People haven't really forgotten.
djplaeskool
Member
I know I'm late on this, but WOW.
Starting this message with this line is a show of absolute delusion.
ScepticMatt
Member
string bullshit = EA.GetBullshit ("SimCity");
string response = EA.GetFudgedAnswer(bullshit);
string response = EA.GetFudgedAnswer(bullshit);
Neuromancer
Member
Unbelievable.
JakkuFurosu
Member
I know when i see some sales numbers for this i'm going to cry....All them 60$ origin installs for a glorified facebook game.
The trade stuff is busted because their always online stuff (what they are still hyping) doesn't work right now, lol. and yeah, I saw a stream where a guy just relied on dirt bike races to fund the entire city too. But I guess when you can build a town with nothing but residential zones and parks and be successful, dirt bike races would be big money-makers.
Green Yoshi
Member
Lucy said:
You hearing or you calculating?
simcity.GetFudgedPeopleThatLoveAlwaysOnline = function (a) {
a = "undefined" !== typeof a ? a : simcity.gGlobalUIHandler.mLastPeopleThatLoveAlwaysOnline;
if (5 >= a)
return a;
if (408 < a)
return Math.floor(8.25 * a);
a = Math.pow(a - 5, 1.2) + 5;
return Math.floor(a)
};
To compare these to launches really is a little crazy.
The HL2 launch was a problem because Valve was trying something new and wasn't properly prepared for it. Once the dust had settled, the game itself was good and got all the praise etc etc.
With SimCity, EA tried something that had been done before a number of times and has had a pretty shitty success rate. There was no reason for them to not be prepared, unless they just looked at what happened to Diablo 3 and thought "fuck it, that game sold a bunch of millions anyway, so ours will too. The extra server capacity for the launch rush isn't worth the cost." But even when you look past all that, the game itself just isn't very good.
Rebel Leader
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I thank there is some merit regarding a game designed as a connected experience. Simulating a global economy by enabling users all over the world to interact with each other's cities sounds nice, but she is way too condescending for my tastes. Also, it makes me more and more pissed off regarding the fake/broken agents routing system they have in this game as described in detail already.
The idea of making the game with a realistic global economy sounds quite pointless when the city simulation seems like some kind of a joke.
I think that's a exactly the reading you should take from it. They're doing something different, something a bit new. If you don't want anything to do with that, that's fine; don't purchase the game. Taken in isolation, I'm completely fine with that; I try to be supportive of games being developed in new directions, even if those directions don't necessarily appeal to me. In this case, I still have SimCity 4.
I do, however, take issue with the fact that I'm not happy that the prerelease info was sufficiently clear at establishing that to be the case, though. This is a tricky bit - at some point you do have to lay down a level of caveat emptor - the buyer can't be absolved of all guilt if they purchase a game they'll dislike - but I think in this instance it's fair to say that the offering we got was not the premise they sold to us.
I agree with this. I am not opposed to this as a concept - indeed, quite the opposite, I think it's an excellent, interesting idea. What they've supplied, though, was the concept done really badly, making too many sacrifices. And forcing me to use italics far too much.
One word of caution: I do get an impression - possibly erroneously, I concede, but in terms of the vehemence of some responses - that there are a number of people complaining because they are fundamentally opposed to it as a concept, and I find that a little disappointing. I don't want devs to be discouraged from experimentation.
Mr. Luchador
Member
They're doing a real good job of pissing me off after I bought the game. Thanks for that.
FrontalMonk
Banned
Just thought of something as I kept reading this:
So, does this mean Sim City has less than a million users (i.e. people that bought the game)? In today's AAA video game industry, that sounds like a pretty big failure.
Counting down to EA turning off the servers for Sim City...
So, does this mean Sim City has less than a million users (i.e. people that bought the game)? In today's AAA video game industry, that sounds like a pretty big failure.
Counting down to EA turning off the servers for Sim City...
Neuromancer
Member
'Trainwreck' doesn't quite cover this game anymore, from a functionality or a PR standpoint. What's worse than a trainwreck?
JakkuFurosu
Member
ambientmystic
Member
That's not that bad for PC only exclusive which previously came out nearly 10 years ago.
AAA games sell mostly on their console iterations, where the millions of day 1 sales are to be made.
Not trying to ruin the narrative over here, but with the exception of Diablo 3 and the usual PC heavy hitters like SC2, PC versions never did sell as much as the typical AAA game in the console market.
