IrishNinja
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nah dude, strawmen are where it's at
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Fabricated Notch/Mojang party escort allegations; Twitter monsters spring into action
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nah dude, strawmen are where it's at
1. Girl chooses profession
2. Guy hires girl to perform chosen profession
Unless they were forced, or 14 I don't see the problem.
Who the fuck are we to tell any female what they should do for a living anyway? If they want to be a stripper or a prostitute or an escort good for them. Anyone who suggests otherwise isn't protecting females, they're holding them back.
Kill Your Masters
Member
Girls dancing and socialising at a gamer party? Must be paid hookers.
These sinner whores and the Mojang pimps should burn in hell for this.
Lowlander2
Banned
Instiga8iveJournalism may once have had credibility, but his motives have since far outrun his actual output. Petty vindictive impulses run his mindset now.
That's all I can really say on this.
That's all I can really say on this.
Lowlander2
Banned
She doesn't honestly believe that, she just hates...Nancy Reagan? I think that was it.
But don't let truth get in the way of a good outrage.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Even if her name was only half-humour, I wouldn't see how it has anything to do with her credibility.
captainnapalm
Member
The American gaming industry seems like an awful place to work in. If I was in it, I'd just keep my head down and do my job and avoid any attempt at joining the "community" or schmoozing. It's really doesn't sound like any fun at all.
Is this kind of constant hand-wringing and faux outrage common in the American workplace these days, or is it just in gaming?
Is this kind of constant hand-wringing and faux outrage common in the American workplace these days, or is it just in gaming?
Sigismundo
Member
Well, that's a much better title.
Fighting for equality is sooo girly, right?
I do not even understand why hiring girls to a party is a problem. In fact, if I had a big party, it was 90% dudes and I had the cash, I'd hire girls too. It's not like they were strippers.
I'm guessing you don't know what a feminist is.
But there's no fighting for equality here. OP thinks escorting is degrading to women, apparently women shouldn't have the right to pick their occupation if it doesn't please some people.
Arthur Gies. Can't go wrong following that douchebag.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Nope.
On another note, thank goodness the title has finally been changed as well as the OP update!
BrokenEchelon
Banned
One who participates in social media misandry? That's all I see these days.
This smelt suspicious from the beginning.
Too many of the same type of incident and at the same time all these talks and commentators talking about the issues at hand also.
Seems planned and manufactured, some of the uproar and now we find one of the causes of the uproar was a lie.
The lady involved and the OP of this thread should hang there heads in shame.
Too many of the same type of incident and at the same time all these talks and commentators talking about the issues at hand also.
Seems planned and manufactured, some of the uproar and now we find one of the causes of the uproar was a lie.
The lady involved and the OP of this thread should hang there heads in shame.
Kibbles
Member
lol Well that backfired
Night_Trekker
Member
I don't suppose anyone's learned any lessons from this fiasco about assuming the worst in a quest for social justice when evidence is lacking?
No? I didn't think so. Carry on, internet justice warriors.
No? I didn't think so. Carry on, internet justice warriors.
It's ok, cry wolf long enough and by the time something actually happens nobody will give a shit. If the people behind this incident realised that they might be a bit more judicious about when they try and stir up outrage on the internet. It's a matter of time before a thread like this pops up and there is nobody taking the side of the OP. I mean nobody is going to listen to a word Holly says ever again. Her hypocrisy was disgusting. I don't see how anyone wins there.
captainnapalm
Member
It's starting to seem more and more like tech and gaming industry is a bit of a soft target because of their strong and vibrant online presence. In the real world no one will pay any mind to this nonsense, but online these people have set up their little networks and communities and can cause a big stink.
They're abusing the level of inclusivity the industry provides to climb on their soapbox at every given opportunity.
She really made a fool of herself.
Makes you wonder why people think it's wise to discuss this kind of stuff on twitter anyway. How about conducting, you know, an actual interview. Hell, even a few e-mails would be better than twitter.
Investigative journalism...such a revolutionary idea, no wait...that's exactly the job the gaming press SHOULD be doing and by and large isn't.
Dictator93
Member
dragonelite
Member
I don't understand it either but this happened and in a way I'm glad because it's shown there is an agenda being pushed and it's not all about protecting women in the games industry. The sooner mountains stop being made out of molehills the sooner real progress can be made regarding sexism in gaming.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I don't know what happened or is happening in this thread but I don't like it.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Holly shit, Green looks like a complete idiot.
Lowlander2
Banned
I'd have to wonder what funchameleon and...Platy, I think her name is, think about this. Because the rather subdued Arden Kehoe is as incensed as Green, and she's not often wrong.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
This a case of 'good looking girls at party, "oh they must've been paid to be there"'? Jesus.
legacyzero
Banned
People digging too deep for scandal?
Maybe they should elaborate on why they're so furious because being angry at Notch and co for something he didn't do is completely fucking moronic. At this stage it seems like they're pissed there were attractive girls in the VIP which is messed up beyond belief.
The Mana Legend
Banned
I love how dumb it all is. It's sexist and offensive in more ways than one. Firstly, why can't pretty women be at party with nerds? Are pretty women only allowed with attractive men? Are gamer dudes not allowed to have pretty women near them?
It's sexist both towards women and towards men. Incredible.
Wrestlemania
Banned
So the people who said they had been told by girls at the party they were being paid to be there - completely made up? That just seems weird.
I stand impartial to the whole "is it right to hire people for company" question, but I'm not against questioning someone's behavior if it went against my moral fiber. However, the way this was handled is nothing short of embarrassing.
Insulting the accused, basing accusations off of very questionable evidence ("based on eye witness accounts" lol), using massive leaps of logic, and then shifting the burden of proof on to the accused, and refusing to accept rebuttals (at least initially) as evidence against the accusations is simply not feasible. It seems to me that the accuser should have done some investigative legwork before accusing people of a pseudo-moral crime.
Insulting the accused, basing accusations off of very questionable evidence ("based on eye witness accounts" lol), using massive leaps of logic, and then shifting the burden of proof on to the accused, and refusing to accept rebuttals (at least initially) as evidence against the accusations is simply not feasible. It seems to me that the accuser should have done some investigative legwork before accusing people of a pseudo-moral crime.
captainnapalm
Member
Women in tech/gaming: No hot women at parties please, we had enough of them back in high school.