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Alienware X51 thread of 2.56TFLOPS comfy couch gaming at 180W in a console size box
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You'll love the 16GB once you see how fast your system will be. Especially if you multitask a lot, and I assure you that you will on a nice gaming PC.
As for keyboard and Mouse, there is an option once you're choosing all the parts for your PC for free. I got a free keyboard and it worked nicely, but nothing compared to what I'm used to (mechanical keyboards).
Edit: I chose just the keyboard because I own a Razer Deathadder. Wasn't looking for a replacement.
ussjtrunks
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Which monitor would you guys reccommend Im thinking of one of these but not sure
Dell UltraSharp U2412M (IPS)
Dell Studio S2440L (VA)
Samsung B750 (TN)
Also hows bioshock infinate run on the 660?
Dell UltraSharp U2412M (IPS)
Dell Studio S2440L (VA)
Samsung B750 (TN)
Also hows bioshock infinate run on the 660?
j0hnny_385
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Got this monitor a couple of weeks ago. Love it. Great price, brilliant picture. Highly recommended.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
OverHeat
« generous god »
This PC is made to be put in a living room plug it in your HDTV
Bioshock infinite 1080p everything on ultra except post process on normal= smooth as butter
This PC is made to be put in a living room plug it in your HDTV
Bioshock infinite 1080p everything on ultra except post process on normal= smooth as butter
is the i3 version worth getting?
ussjtrunks
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I have a 46" Sony hx853 that I can feed hdmi to for movie watching gaming need the monitor for productivity work (school stuff lol) and internetThis PC is made to be put in a living room plug it in your HDTV
Bioshock infinite 1080p everything on ultra except post process on normal= smooth as butter
OverHeat
« generous god »
I had the i5 with the 640 gt before....IMO don't cheap out because the i7 with a 660gtx is one of the best investment I made. The difference is night and day.
j0hnny_385
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IMHO, the difference you felt was because 640 - > 660 not because of i5 -> i7.
AFAIK, i7 doesn't justify its price over i5 in terms of gaming.
OverHeat
« generous god »
He was talking about the i3
OverHeat
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Im using my A50 it get the job done
The increase in frequency is nothing to dismiss. It'll make a noticeable difference in a lot of games.
Marty Chinn
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Ibuypower's build quality is worse than Alienware/Dell I think.
ShinobiFist
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Bless that plasma with some Bioshock goodness.
i already bought it on ps3 but only got to monument island. i am thinking of stopping there and just playing it on PC instead.
I just checked these out on their website. I am going to do a bit of research tonight, as at first glance, it does look like a better deal than the X51. The only thing that jumped out at me right away is that the 660 in the X51 is actually more akin to the 660Ti than it is the 660, which is definitely not obvious to someone who doesn't know the X51 well.
ussjtrunks
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What's the overall opinion on noise levels?
Also anyone got bio shock infinate on DVD I heard even if you get the disk you have to download 14gb that's like a 3 day download here
Also anyone got bio shock infinate on DVD I heard even if you get the disk you have to download 14gb
that's like a 3 day download hereIbuypower has the worst build quality I have ever seen in my life.
ShinobiFist
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Go with the PC version. Leave AA off and Post Processing in Normal. And in enjoy everything in Ultra @60fps in 1080p.
It is subjective, but I'd say a bit more quiet than the first 360s.What's the overall opinion on noise levels?
Also anyone got bio shock infinate on DVD I heard even if you get the disk you have to download 14gb
wow ... gotta pay $60 for it again though
also - been reading some impressions by plasma owners saying their PCs look weird on their plasmas via HDMI? Is there anything I need to know about this? I "calibrated" my HDMI inputs myself and I'm very happy with the way my picture looks currently. Will I need to configure my video settings for PC ?
Thoughts on the Revolt
Aspects better than X51
Aspects worse than X51
Bottom Line
Aspects better than X51
- 500W PSU
- Unlocked processor
- Extremely capable CPU cooler
- Much higher performance
Aspects worse than X51
- Extremely hard to work on
- Flimsy case materials that can break when opening the case if you aren't careful
Bottom Line
It's a lot more capable than the X51 in just about every aspect. Being able to overclock the processor is huge. There are a very large number of games that are CPU bottlenecked due entirely to frequency. UE3, Source, Blizzard games, among others all like really speedy cores.
The drawback to this is that you have to basically disassemble the entire system in order to upgrade anything, even something as simple as the memory. If you aren't careful during this process, it's really easy to break something.
Given the fact that it has an unlocked CPU and can come from the factory with a card like the 670, and you can have an SSD + HDD installed would push me to suggest this as the way to go over the X51.
The drawback to this is that you have to basically disassemble the entire system in order to upgrade anything, even something as simple as the memory. If you aren't careful during this process, it's really easy to break something.
Given the fact that it has an unlocked CPU and can come from the factory with a card like the 670, and you can have an SSD + HDD installed would push me to suggest this as the way to go over the X51.
SapientWolf
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Which cooler did you get? And by "disassemble the entire system" you mean break it down to an empty motherboard?
Just an FYI for those considering buying from Ibuypower, the system I ordered from them shipped with the HDD power connectors unplugged, and with Windows NOT installed on the hard drive. The wiring job was an absolute rat's nest. Granted, this was several years ago so it's possible they have improved...but if not, just be prepared to have to pop open the case yourself and complete the build job.
They do have extremely competitive prices.
They do have extremely competitive prices.
I didn't actually buy one, just watched a ton of videos and read as much as I could on it. I'm a DIY'er.
By disassemble, I mean everything that *isn't* the motherboard is stacked on top of it. HDD, SSD, DVD drive, and PSU all have to removed.
I should also clarify, the case itself is extremely sturdy and scratch resistant. The iffy part is the construction of the materials that hold it together when disassembling the system.
With the nature of the system being what it is, I wouldn't worry about that sort of thing with the Revolt. This is a different beast than a standard tower.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
The make or break for me is whether or not you can Titan it up.
I can't overstate how huge the unlocked processor is though. That has always been the thing that made me slightly iffy towards the X51. The rest of it was such a good deal in a small package that I could stomach it though.
But now that you can get this one in a similar sized package for a very similar amount of money, while getting the benefits of having the entire thing configurable is huge. Z77 chipset + unlocked processor + super legit CPU cooler = 4.0-4.5GHz attainable.
Scale these down to the 3.0-3.4 range to get an idea of the difference (these charts are a more accurate version of average FPS. 8.3ms = 120FPS, 16.7ms = 60FPS, 33.3ms = 30FPS)
But now that you can get this one in a similar sized package for a very similar amount of money, while getting the benefits of having the entire thing configurable is huge. Z77 chipset + unlocked processor + super legit CPU cooler = 4.0-4.5GHz attainable.
Scale these down to the 3.0-3.4 range to get an idea of the difference (these charts are a more accurate version of average FPS. 8.3ms = 120FPS, 16.7ms = 60FPS, 33.3ms = 30FPS)
You can.
CPU is already an issue in a number of games that weren't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. They only use one or two cores. In order to get a steady frame rate, you have to increase the core frequency.
With Sandy/Ivy, all you do is go into BIOS, change 'CPU Ratio' to 40-44, and increase voltage to 1.2-1.3V. Stress test to ensure that it's stable, and you are done. It's really easy.
With Sandy/Ivy, all you do is go into BIOS, change 'CPU Ratio' to 40-44, and increase voltage to 1.2-1.3V. Stress test to ensure that it's stable, and you are done. It's really easy.
Fair enough. I'd be interested in hearing impressions from people that do end up ordering the Revolt from them. Looking around Youtube now for videos of their full tower build jobs...if they have improved then I really would love to give them another shot because their prices are extremely inviting and I enjoy the wide selection of parts they offer.
MrCompletely
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Finished BioShock Infinite on my A51 (w gtx 670) in full 1080p, 60fps, ultra detail (shadows on very high, everything else maxed).
Never been happier with a gaming machine.
Never been happier with a gaming machine.
My ITX rig and test bench are both very similar spec-wise, the performance is outstanding.
Go with a 3570K + 660Ti or 670 and a solid state drive, and you've got yourself a completely modern gaming system that competes on-par with a DIY build.
Oh yeah, not worried at all about the specs, just about Ibuypower's quality and reliability. I have a 660Ti in my current build, could not be happier with it, even with my aging processor.
PartTimeWarrior
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Update:
I called Dell last week to complain about the delay and got Overnight shipping for free. The computer should arrive tomorrow
I called Dell last week to complain about the delay and got Overnight shipping for free. The computer should arrive tomorrow
No I get that, I meant the reliability of the build as a whole, as constructed by Ibuypower. My last build from them had major issues.
Also, I just checked out the Revolt configurator page on their site and the motherboard required for OC'ing is an Ibuypower proprietary brand, which is interesting.
Also, I just checked out the Revolt configurator page on their site and the motherboard required for OC'ing is an Ibuypower proprietary brand, which is interesting.
Yeah, but even they can't fuck up the parts for this build.
Looks like an ASRock ITX mobo, decent HS, major brand everything else, FSP 80+ (350W) or 80+ Gold (500W).
Major issues with most prebuilts (Mobo and PSU) are very good components.
Everything else looks very good about it.
I'll echo that I've read very poor impressions of their build quality, but it's been a while and hopefully it should be a non-issue. Can't comment on their support or warranty.
I've been trying to figure out specifics, but I have $50 that says the mobo is ASRock. This is a very good thing, as their ITX board is rock solid.
Marty Chinn
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My company, which does game development, used to buy all of our computers from Ibuypower but their failure rate was so high that we just had to stop using them eventually. Their build quality is really poor. It's one thing if a computer here and there dies, but most of them had issues over a short period of time. Fans falling off were very common.
They have an optional ASRock Mobo too but that one apparently does not allow OC'ing of the processor.
This seems to be the general consensus with what I've seen on various message boards too. And my own personal experience with them.
People should check out Digital Storm, they seem to have a much higher build quality and a very thorough testing process that they put all their PCs through before they ship.
And they have a SFF offering as well, the Bolt:
Prices are a little higher than the Revolt but still pretty reasonable I'd say. Can definitely beat the X51. $1,419 will get you an overclockable i5 3750k, 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, a dual hard drive set up with 120 GB SSD OS drive and 500 GB mechanical storage drive, and a full 660 Ti. They will also OC the i5 to at least 4.0 GHz and the OC is covered by their warranty. System has a 500 watt PSU. GPU is configurable up to the Titan.
alright. would it be worth the time investment to transfer windows 8 to it after it's installed? the drive i've got now is 3 instead of SSD's 6. I just don't know if it would be an easy process or not or if I'd basically have to reformat
They have an optional ASRock Mobo too but that one apparently does not allow OC'ing of the processor.
This seems to be the general consensus with what I've seen on various message boards too. And my own personal experience with them.
People should check out Digital Storm, they seem to have a much higher build quality and a very thorough testing process that they put all their PCs through before they ship.
And they have a SFF offering as well, the Bolt:
Prices are a little higher than the Revolt but still pretty reasonable I'd say. Can definitely beat the X51. $1,419 will get you an overclockable i5 3750k, 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, a dual hard drive set up with 120 GB SSD OS drive and 500 GB mechanical storage drive, and a full 660 Ti. They will also OC the i5 to at least 4.0 GHz and the OC is covered by their warranty. System has a 500 watt PSU. GPU is configurable up to the Titan.
damn really nice looking. making me want to cancel my X51 purchase
While I agree, I think this is a different case (pun intended). As Hazaro noted above, failure rate is due to parts, not assembly. This has good parts. The assembly is so complex that if it weren't done properly, it wouldn't close or function. I've never recommended Ibuypower before, but what I'm reading on this in specific is really encouraging.
The Bolt ships with a B75 motherboard, which means no OC'ing. It's also prohibitively expensive in comparison.
Ibuypower doesn't make PCB, nor has the capacity to actually create a motherboard. What companies do in cases like this is having another company (the OEM) create it for them in specific.
I put a message in to their CS to confirm, but that motherboard is almost definitely an ASRock Z77E with maybe a few less features.
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