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Indie game developer Chloe Sagal attempted suicide on TwitchTV, not dead
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rather than trawling through CSI reddit, i think it's fairly reasonable to say that you can deduce what happened from these two posts:
from the project zomboid people: http://www.theindiestone.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=186717#p186717
from chloe herself: http://www.theindiestone.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=186659#p186659
what a mess.
from the project zomboid people: http://www.theindiestone.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=186717#p186717
from chloe herself: http://www.theindiestone.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=186659#p186659
what a mess.
Thank you for these.
Wario64, you may want to add these two posts to the OP for more context.
ghst already said it, but seriously what a mess this is.
unknownhero
Member
disregarding if the indigogo was a scam or not, this really sucks. I mean she lost support from her mother for heaven sakes and some of the comments here.....
R.I.P. to her if she did commit suicide. I'm hoping someone called for help.
R.I.P. to her if she did commit suicide. I'm hoping someone called for help.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
It wasn't revealed. It was just speculated and some people backed up their assumptions with more assumptions and terribly piecing stuff together.
Regardless of what the money was for, sex change or surgery to remove the metal, she needed the money for medical reasons, she needed help. She didn't need the Internet bombarding her and calling her a scammer and insulting her for something that may or may not have been true.
Sad, Rest In Peace Chloe, it's a shame you didn't get the help you need and it's a shame you had to take your on life. If only people were more understanding and were more willing to lend a helping hand :/
It doesn't mean much in hindsight, but I'm going to give Homesick a try, I bet it's a great game.
EDIT:
I hope she survives, and this time she gets all the help she needs, and deserves. :/
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Seems like a fucked up situation all around regardless of what is true.
If the Indiegogo thing was a scam it's messed up to pull a stunt like that.
If the Indiegogo thing wasn't a scam it's messed up that she would need to croud fund a life-saving operation.
If she really did commit suicide on a live broadcast that's messed up.
If she didn't and it wasn't a cry for help then that's not cool either.
Pretty much every angle to this story sucks.
If the Indiegogo thing was a scam it's messed up to pull a stunt like that.
If the Indiegogo thing wasn't a scam it's messed up that she would need to croud fund a life-saving operation.
If she really did commit suicide on a live broadcast that's messed up.
If she didn't and it wasn't a cry for help then that's not cool either.
Pretty much every angle to this story sucks.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I think it's best that everyone gives her some space.
... I would say if it wasn't for the fact that she is depressed. Perhaps some community reach-out initiative (that does not involve stalking or e-detectivery) might actually be helpful?
Like sending her a get-well card... actually, scratch that - a card might very well be interpreted as an insult.
... I would say if it wasn't for the fact that she is depressed. Perhaps some community reach-out initiative (that does not involve stalking or e-detectivery) might actually be helpful?
Like sending her a get-well card... actually, scratch that - a card might very well be interpreted as an insult.
Yeah, I think that pretty much sums it up.
I watched a first look on YouTube recently. Looked pretty scary.
One more thing ...
Is these what "us" gamers are ??? I always love to think of my self as a gamer even tho I don't look in what a gamer should look like
But you and some are what makes me think that at time people are right about the way they talk about gamers your a sad case of human being it's not even cus u may be what to most a "typical" gamer would be ur just a sad case of human being ...
On top of in a way understanding the state of mind of the person and wanting to make pain go away to a point u even think of ending it all is impossible to understand or even judge some one who actually goes thru with something like she did ...
Well the point is I been around here for a lot of years and "trolling" system wars and a Xbox 360 or a ps3 is one thing "trolling" some ones life is fuck up and some of u are terrible human beings
Sad very damn sad
This person was in a shitty situation, and they didn't help themselves by holding back information.
Seems to me like they were caught lying about their situation, and instead of coming clean they just took the 'there's more to this situation that I can't talk about because its dangerous ' route.
I cannot respect her for what she did regarding the donations, nor do I respect her decision to end her life. RIP or whatever.
:/
Seems to me like they were caught lying about their situation, and instead of coming clean they just took the 'there's more to this situation that I can't talk about because its dangerous ' route.
I cannot respect her for what she did regarding the donations, nor do I respect her decision to end her life. RIP or whatever.
:/
Chloe Sagal said:
Does it matter?
Authorities where she lives were called while the stream occurred so there is a good chance they may have gotten to her.
I hope so.
I really, really hate the internet at the moment. Reading those youtube comments was brutal and... fucking internet.
Delusibeta
Banned
I get the sense that the NeoGafShitPosts twitter will have a field day in this thread.
Why do I get the feeling that if she survives, the conspiracy-eejits will jump up and declare the attempted suicide as proof they're correct?
Why do I get the feeling that if she survives, the conspiracy-eejits will jump up and declare the attempted suicide as proof they're correct?
Same reason why most people want to he some kind of half-gods chosen by heaven to become immortal when they are actually just little vicious naked monkey shits.
They feel that way.
Hope they got there on time !!
Being WHAT EVER was it that drove her to these point mental health is something very important dangerous
Hope that if she's ok that people really help her and if it really was to late these case is used to help others !!
And Aswell to some how make some of you guys here better people cus some of you really are messed up in the head !!
Hope I didn't hurt no ones Internet pride or ego
(Sad humans)
I suspect that she could be located pretty easily based on her IP address.
computers putin'
Member
it's tragic either way.
That's shockingly low. I hope she's all right.
What?
Wat?
I think you should read what you quoted.
D
Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
What a mess.
I don't think we have enough information to understand what is going on. She might needed the surgery and it might have been a life threatening situation indeed, but also it might be a fraud and she wanted to get the money for other purposes.
Fraud or not, suicide is a no laughing matter; I hope she is still alive.
I don't think we have enough information to understand what is going on. She might needed the surgery and it might have been a life threatening situation indeed, but also it might be a fraud and she wanted to get the money for other purposes.
Fraud or not, suicide is a no laughing matter; I hope she is still alive.
This post with your avatar...
LuisSepulveda
Neo Member
It's so sad, hope she still alive!
Sapphire Dreams
Member
This is just all around awful 
Delusibeta
Banned
I believe the implication was "hayguyz is a smeghead*"
*replace smeghead with the c-swear.
There is no such thing as "the internet." Anonymity simply allows browbeaten limpdicks to spew the bullshit online that would get them humiliated in their real, cowardly lives.
If the rumors are true and this thing was about her lying about the surgery, it's doubly sad. I have no doubt she'd raise the funds needed if she was open about it.
Delusibeta
Banned
The irony was that, even despite the rumours, she did reach the funding target.
And then Indiegogo pulled the plug and refunded everyone.
maverick40
Junior Member
VIdcon, you are scum of the earth and you deserve a permaban for that.
IT: While this is sad, why wwould someone want to look at a young girl killing herself?
IT: While this is sad, why wwould someone want to look at a young girl killing herself?
Delusibeta
Banned
Have you ever heard of Rule 36?
Because some people are different. There are far sicker things in this world btw.
Onion_Relish
Member
Is actually reasonable when you think of it. The people who aren't dying are vomiting when unconscious and then receiving medical treatment afterwards. Pretty much the only way you could guarantee suicide with pills is if you put duct tape over your mouth and lay down in a bath tub full of water.
I'm not trying to be morbid or insensitive, I'm just pointing out that this is a cry for help. Especially if you're streaming it. You are begging for someone to finally give a fuck and truly save your life... I hope she gets the help she needs whatever it may be.
BlackGoku03
Member
Hope she's alright. I think suicide is a thoughtless way to go out, so I hope she gets help from someone. There are too many organizations and people out there that want to prevent shit like this. It only takes a phone call. Without knowing her, it's easy to say "don't do it!" I hope someone who does know her helps her out.
A lot of details in this is blurry though, so there's not much one can comment on.
A lot of details in this is blurry though, so there's not much one can comment on.
afreaknamedpete
Member
I can't imagine this having a happy ending. If it was a drug overdose she's probably going to survive, but what caused the attempt will remain.
Curiosity, disbelief, shock value, need I go on?
I admit the first thought that came to my mind was to browse her twitch archive to see if she actually went through with it.
I understand why she would feel the need to lie about the surgery -- assuming that's even the case. There is a huge amount of negative pressure and stigma placed on trans people, and gender surgery is basically the focal point unto which all that negativity can be focused on.
She perhaps might have felt that she would not gain much traction with a 'Fund my surgery that 80% of people believe is unnecessary / insane / sick / evil' campaign.
I really hope the authorities were able to get to her in time.
She perhaps might have felt that she would not gain much traction with a 'Fund my surgery that 80% of people believe is unnecessary / insane / sick / evil' campaign.
I really hope the authorities were able to get to her in time.
I'm not sure why we're discussing the Indiegogo "scam" at this very moment. Whether she lived or died is what's of current importance, the fact that we're talking about the veracity of her statements right now seems a little bit tactless, isn't it? Not to mention entirely academic now that the damage has been done. That discussion can wait a day, everyone can put away their internet P.I. badges and take a day off. How about we hope she's safe for now instead?
It's done as a way for a person in a fragile state to confirm a suspicion of the horrors of humanity that they feel they have endured. "Do people value me more dead than alive?" is a common question among some suicidal people... the internet unfortunately gives them a way to find the metric.
Suicidal people are generally well beyond the point of acknowledgement of what it does to others, and it sounds like she didn't think she was leaving behind anyone who cared for her.
Internet anonymity and the culture it's created doesn't look so good or innocuous when the by-product stares back at you from the abyss, I know. Makes you wonder the real reason people campaign so hard to keep it.
It's done as a way for a person in a fragile state to confirm a suspicion of the horrors of humanity that they feel they have endured. "Do people value me more dead than alive?" is a common question among some suicidal people... the internet unfortunately gives them a way to find the metric.
Suicidal people are generally well beyond the point of acknowledgement of what it does to others, and it sounds like she didn't think she was leaving behind anyone who cared for her.
Internet anonymity and the culture it's created doesn't look so good or innocuous when the by-product stares back at you from the abyss, I know. Makes you wonder the real reason people campaign so hard to keep it.
Is this all some sort of prank?
From talking about suicide and posting this at 1:30am:
"ima scraed
jing let me dis in eopslkl
it's gosiafn so slow ice ant take it"
which would naturally lead people to assume the worst, to posting an animated gif of Nixon's head in a jar later in the day...
computers putin'
Member
Some of the guys posting those comments were using their full name and pics. Some people are just dicks and don't care(or don't notice).
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