peaceiscloser
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Well, technically Samus does become sorta a Metroid in Fusion.
Also she's bioweapon like the Metroids were according to the manga
Also she's bioweapon like the Metroids were according to the manga
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"y cant metroid crawl?" first time (Miiverse) players cry for help in Super Metroid
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This topic reminds me that I have to come clean about something.
When playing Super Metroid, I didn't know that there was a 'run' button. The original Metroid never had one, so I had no reason to think that the sequel would.
It took me six or seven tries to get out of the doomed space station after fighting Ridley. Without running, it's hard. I finally accomplished it with 0'00"56 left on the clock.
At the time I just thought that it was a difficult game and that's how things should be.
When playing Super Metroid, I didn't know that there was a 'run' button. The original Metroid never had one, so I had no reason to think that the sequel would.
It took me six or seven tries to get out of the doomed space station after fighting Ridley. Without running, it's hard. I finally accomplished it with 0'00"56 left on the clock.
At the time I just thought that it was a difficult game and that's how things should be.
The Illiterati
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When this game first released, my uncle was visiting, he was a big gamer at the time and we got to the part where you have to space jump off of the walls, and for some reason we could never figure that out. So we spent hours trying to time morph ball bomb blasts so you can propel yourself high enough. We taped parts of the controller down because our hands were sore, we left the system on overnight since we hadn't saved it, we went to great extremes. I'd like to believe we actually bombed our way up the wall but I doubt it is possible. I also would like to believe we actually figured out how to wall jump. But I think we finally called Nintendo's hint line or something. My most memorable gaming weekend.
honeymustardn
Member
I think you also need to remember that back then, instruction manuals were much more important, and most people did read them. Now (at least in the case of Virtual Console games), they are hidden away in the Home menu.
Chie Satonaka
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Now, if my horrible memory serves, when you get the morph ball in Super Metroid, it just says MORPH BALL, right?
How would you even know that's a new ability and not some sort of treasure/artifact? The way it sits on a pedestal and an alarm triggers as soon as you take it reminds me of Indiana Jones.
MrCunningham
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This is true for Super Metroid. Though Metroid II did have a save feature as well, but lacked a map, but at the same time the levels were designed in a way that they didn't need a map, so that was never a problem. The original Metroid was never designed with a password system in mind, as it was made for the Famicom Disk System in Japan. Unfortunately it was released in North America at a time when battery back-up didn't exist. so they had no choice but to release it with a password system. Though interestingly enough Zelda 1 was released on the same month and year as Metroid in North America and was the first cartridge game to have a battery back up.
That is sort of the problem with Super Metroid, once you memorize everything, it becomes a bit too easy on future playthroughs. Now, even if you did memorize the entire map layout in the original Metroid and knew where to go at all times, the game still feels like it has a legitimate challenge because it doesn't pad the player with health/ weapon recharges, power weapons or lots of health and reserve health. In the original game, there was more of an extra layer of twitch gaming skills required to get through it. You really did feel vulnerable at all times, even after you found every item.
That extra layer of twitch game play in Super Metroid got filtered out a bit to make it easier for people who are not familiar with the series. It's not something they took away entirely as there were still areas that requires the player to navigate through them with some precision and skill. But I always feel there were more safety nets put in place to allow a player to stumble their way through those areas as well if they weren't particular good at it.
But yeah, it does go back to what you were saying about SNES games having more room to include extra safety net features.
It depends on what type of games you are talking about, older non open world PC games much more commonly needed a map than non open world console games. But yeah, that is something you see less and less in games today. The last partially non open world game i played was dead island on the PC which does have a map screen, but also points everything out with way points and direct paths.
Since this is mostly a Metroid thread, there is always one thing I can credit the series for doing right. The game doesn't really have backtracking, despite the fact that you revisit locations over and over again. Most times you come back to a previous location, it is through a different previous unexplored path you have never seen before and the game is always progressively moving you forward.
The threshold to ask help becomes non existent and the amount of knowledge explodes days after the game is released.
I went to his review of it. He says it's not fun, because he's only having fun if he's winning. He says this unironically, not as a joke.
Not Super Metroid but...
Andrew pls
Well uh
It tells you what it is and how to use it in the manual.
But no one reads those.
Even a lot of gaffers didn't notice VC and retail games come with virtual manuals, I wouldn't expect your average person on Miiverse to know that either.
So it's a little unfair to say lol they're not even trying
even though I just did it earlier in the thread
wilder.Boy
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This thread made my day!
To be fair, I was stuck in that room as a kid. Didn't play it for over 2 months, until a friend showed me how to do it
You surely completed it in one sitting.
peanutbutterlatte
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"How do I activate the Super Guide for this game?"
Nintendo... you have created weakness.
Nintendo... you have created weakness.
But don't you remember those car journeys back from the store that seemed to take an age, where the only thing you could do was read the manual in excitement before you got home?
Or was that just me?
of course not but i never found it hard leave alone quitting it
ZeroGravity
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Reading a manual is counter to what any game should be about.
IdreamofHIME
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I thought she was called Metroid until about 1998
I always wondered who Samus was in Revenge of Samus.
I always wondered who Samus was in Revenge of Samus.
Ashler
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Oh wow, did not expect all this.
... I still don't know how to react to this. Did this also happen to people playing the original in the 90's but with nowhere they could vent? Cause I don't remember being at all frustrated when I picked up and played the original back then... at all. I mean, this is not like Ghouls'N Ghosts.
... I still don't know how to react to this. Did this also happen to people playing the original in the 90's but with nowhere they could vent? Cause I don't remember being at all frustrated when I picked up and played the original back then... at all. I mean, this is not like Ghouls'N Ghosts.
BomberMouse
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Exactly my thoughts.
Oh definitely. My post was just in response to the people who were saying these kids should read the digital manual
Star Falcon
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Delicious tears
Not until the advent of DVD cases. My parents almost always bought cheap second hand games, and neither the cardboard box nor manual would ever come with them.
Isn't that the chozo that actually does wake up and fight you? If not, then it's funny. If it is, then it's just someone who's not very good at fighting.
Ingueferroque
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Those Mii faces are so annoying.
Ahh right. My mum refused point blank to ever buy me pre-owned stuff as a kid for some reason, always preferring to buy new regardless of extra cost. Always got sealed brand new copies until I started getting an allowance to buy whatever I wanted, which was around 2000 or so.
I still remember the time when we drove to town to get Yoshi's Island in the big box when it came out. Had been waiting months for that, and between the time we got in the car to the time we got home, I had already blazed through the big guide book AND the instruction manual.
good times!!
Lufiaddict
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I remember my first attempts to play Metroid. The NES was my first console.
- I fell prey to the "y cant metroid crawl?" curse too: Super Mario Bros taught me that you have to walk to the right in videogames, so that's what I did... until I hit the first wall. My little mind was blown away when my sister walked LEFT and found the morph ball.
- I didn't know how to open red doors either. I knew I needed missiles because I read that in the manual... but I somehow skipped over the fact that you have to shoot 5 of them.
So yeah, let's not be too hard on those guys (i'm sure a couple of them aren't trolling).
And I feel sad for those who play Super Metroid without having played Metroid before: I SHAT BRICKS when that Chozo statue stood up! =O
- I fell prey to the "y cant metroid crawl?" curse too: Super Mario Bros taught me that you have to walk to the right in videogames, so that's what I did... until I hit the first wall. My little mind was blown away when my sister walked LEFT and found the morph ball.
- I didn't know how to open red doors either. I knew I needed missiles because I read that in the manual... but I somehow skipped over the fact that you have to shoot 5 of them.
So yeah, let's not be too hard on those guys (i'm sure a couple of them aren't trolling).
And I feel sad for those who play Super Metroid without having played Metroid before: I SHAT BRICKS when that Chozo statue stood up! =O
This makes me happy.
Professor Beef
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I'm not talking about "games." I'm talking about Super Metroid specifically.
You were a little kid. It's not like you had much choice but to play the games you were given.
I honestly am not in much surprise, really.
Haha, damn. Awesome gif.
But yeah, sometimes I long back to the days of no internet.
When I was a kid I couldn't speak or understand English, so I got stuck in Ocarina of Time for months.
You guys probably also got stuck in stupid places when you were kids. Don't blame this generation just because people now can publicly say that they are stuck.
If the internet existed back then I am pretty sure we would have seen a similar situation.
You guys probably also got stuck in stupid places when you were kids. Don't blame this generation just because people now can publicly say that they are stuck.
If the internet existed back then I am pretty sure we would have seen a similar situation.
Agreed. Enough time has passed to where people think they've always been Metroid experts. Even at the time Super Metroid felt different than most other games in terms of what it presented to you.
Again, this isn't just about asking for help because Super Metroid has somewhat unintuitive parts, but rather what the people in the OP are asking about.
Yeah, it's pretty cool how metroid took advantage of that convention and used it in one minute flat to demonstrate what kind of game it is.
"There's a hole here... what do I do?!"
*farts around for a little while*
"Can I go this way?"
*goes left and finds morph ball*
"Now I can roll into a ball... wait, I can use this over there!!"
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