Those are all TGS excuses. Square Enix has never acknowledged Versus in the West since announcement.
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Amazon no longer selling Versus XIII?
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Stone Ocean
Member
Sony funding it makes sense considering the bumpy development the game had - kind of ironic to fund Versus but not TLG lol. If the game indeed had setbacks and got shelved/canned, it would make sense for a bigger publish to help it get back up.
FF is a big name, yes, but let's not forget Square isn't exactly doing super well money wise.
It's literally the only branding/marketing move that makes sense right now. Coupled with several leaks (I think?) that positioned Versus (and whatever it's turned into during its abysmal development cycle) into FF XV.
The title Versus XIII was always completely terrible, too. Typical Square.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
I have never seen that a huge third party franchise with front loaded sales goes exclusive at launch of a new hardware, didn't even happen with the PS1-PS2 transition, won't happen here. It makes no sense.
It can be cross generational, like Zelda TP, or they can announce plans for the franchise later on the life of that system (FFX, MGS2), but if the game has been playable and with that development time and is as big, it makes absolutely no sense to make it exclusive. There are 60+millions PS3 systems out there, 60+million potential customers. There are 0 PS4 sold.
AnbaLeumas
Banned
Then this shouldn't be a surprise to you. Games are moved onto next gen platforms for whatever reason. PS4 install base won't be a concern if the game launches winter of 2014 and Final Fantasy is a system seller.
People bought PS3s for Versus :lol
Like me.
Me too
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
That is not my point.
AnbaLeumas
Banned
C'mon. There's no way TLG would outsell a exclusive Final Fantasy title especially one like this.
Final Fantasy X and Gran Turismo 3 both launched in 2001, a full year after PS2's launch.
Why can't Versus/XV launch next year on PS4?
Aren't the only rumors from Verendus and Zeal? I just can't imagine a game stuck in development hell suddenly being giving the huge weight of a mainline entry on its shoulders.
Whatever happens, it'd better see a ps3 release or I will be maaaaaad.
plutoknight
Member
At this rate, I'm going to be incredibly disappointed if Versus DOESN'T become FFXV.
Sony making it exclusive would be a huge get, and a great "Screw you MS!" for FFXIII (Well, moreso than FFXIII itself was a big "Screw you!")
MGS2, as well!
I'm almost confident it'll be PS4 exclusive. They've long ditched Crystal Tools, so I'm sure the game has had a huge re-working. I doubt we'll be able to recognize a lot of it, honestly.
PS3/PS4, while nice, would probably hurt more than help -- especially if FFXV/Versus/Whatever is the lynchpin title for their next-gen engine.
Sony making it exclusive would be a huge get, and a great "Screw you MS!" for FFXIII (Well, moreso than FFXIII itself was a big "Screw you!")
MGS2, as well!
I'm almost confident it'll be PS4 exclusive. They've long ditched Crystal Tools, so I'm sure the game has had a huge re-working. I doubt we'll be able to recognize a lot of it, honestly.
PS3/PS4, while nice, would probably hurt more than help -- especially if FFXV/Versus/Whatever is the lynchpin title for their next-gen engine.
Versus XIII was always considered a mainline title. Nomura stated specifically that it's the only mainline FF he'll make because it's very stressful.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Hurry up E3!
Wii had similar specs to GCN, so cross-gen was a simple task for those platforms. Nevertheless I do agree PS4 exclusive would be foolish, cross-gen is the way to go.
Also PS3 install base is eighty million now.
Hasn't Kagari hinted it as well? I feel that making this a PS4 title and renaming FFXV makes much sense at this point in the generation.
Actually, Nomura and Kitase have stated several reasons why Versus is a spin-off.
Last I remember someone mentioned that Sony had dispensed help (in what form is unknown) to SE for the sole purpose of completing Versus/XV. So it wouldn't surprise me at all to see it be a PS4 exclusive. However, if Kagari's belief is to be shared, it'll be a PS exclusive, i.e. be a cross generational PS only title.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Because, of what we know, the game should be nearly done. It has been shown in playable form several times, it runs on PS3. Do you really think it is a good idea releasing a PS3 game on PS4 a year in when the second wave of PS4 games come and blow this game graphically?
I will make a prediction and say this game, if it still exists, will be a PS3 exclusive, at most it will be cross generational (though I doubt this since not even Sony games are cross generational).
Which of this two options would you choose?
1.- Finish the damn game, which is nearly finished and playable, and release it on a 60+ million installbase, earn money.
2.- Invest more resources into porting it to PS4, giving it additional development time and releasing it as an exclusive, even though you don't know if the console will sell, knowing their last released hardware was a failure (VITA) and with a much lower installed base. Earn less money.
AnbaLeumas
Banned
It makes sense to launch on PS3 if Square wasn't being funded by Sony since their main goal would be to sell copies. Since Sony is supposedly funding the game now, I'm sure Sony's goal would be to use this system seller to sell PS4's.
DarkLordMalik
Member
So this is another confirmation of sorts that FF XV = Versus.
E3 can't come any sooner
E3 can't come any sooner
Strange. I remember the Famitsu interview where he said mainline FF stress is too much and that he wants to work on Kingdom Hearts/remakes after Versus is complete.
I don't know. The last time we saw the game running on PS3 was in 2011. Two and a half years ago. It might not even look the same now. Heck, it probably doesn't.
Stone Ocean
Member
3. - Release for both and make a shitton of money.
Exentryk
Member
I'd rather take an optimized version on one system, than two identical looking (but unoptimized) on two systems.
AnbaLeumas
Banned
Definitely.
plutoknight
Member
If Sony is indeed co-funding it a la Bayonetta 2/Nintendo, point 2 is moot.
SoraanTribal
Member
I'm one of the people who does not believe that Sony is helping fund Versus. I think Sony has enough first party studios to worry about and fund than to concern itself with dealing with SE (especially with SE striking deals with Microsoft early this gen probably didn't make Sony too happy). Yes, Final Fantasy could potentially be a system seller, but so would GT6, and yet we are seeing that on the PS3 instead.
Has Sony ever helped fund the development for a third party game? Serious question - I really don't know. I think they may have helped advertise FFVII, but that isn't the same as funding the development of the actual game. (I could be completely wrong about FFVII, too)
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
But people here are saying it's PS4 exclusive, and that's insane IMO.
Also I don't think it is as wasy as you think to port PS3 games to PS4, the architecture of the hardware is completely different, the best example you have is that Sony is releasing a lot of great PS3 games in time for the PS4 launch; games you will not be able to play on the PS4.
Why didn't they make those games cross generational with enhancements?
They made COD Vita because Activision didn't bother.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
They're not funding TLG? The game still hasn't been cancelled, so they're still funding it.
All the rumors point to Versus (or whatever it ends up being) and TLG being moved to ps4.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Yeah it's probably gonna be a PS4 game now lol.
AnbaLeumas
Banned
Well there has to be a reason that it was going to be PS3 exclusive for the past 6 years. I'm sure a third party studio requires some money to develop a game exclusive to one console.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Again the last we saw of this game was in 2011 at the beginning. If its being exclusive for PS4 and releasing in 2014 thats three years in development for the PS4, more than enough time to be a graphical showpiece.
The biggest reason why its not cross generational is probably because Sony wants it to sell PS4's. FFX showed that Square won't be losing out on sales if they did such a thing and the game may be more attractive as a next gen rpg.
A PS4 version would have better anti-aliasing, lighting, polygon count, and the cinematics would hopefully be in real-time. If it's still exclusive, personally I'm hoping for PS3 to act as a technical showcase and swan song for the system.
Though I certainly wouldn't complain if it's PS4.
SoraanTribal
Member
Oh... Well, I guess that's... something. :|
AnbaLeumas said:
Yeah, I suppose some money traded hands between the two since Versus was going to be PS3 exclusive in the first place. But even still, I have my doubts Sony would help fund Versus - at least to the extent that would be required to basically remake the game for the PS4. Unless it was just going to be a simple resolution increase and maybe 60FPS.
Mr.Marston
Member
Its going to be re-revealed as FF15 at E3. Its all but certain now.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
It's the only way the game will actually make money. As a spin-off, no matter how good it was/is, it would max out at 50% of the sales of FF13, and we know from experience that AAA games with long dev times (see Bioshock, Tomb Raider, LA Noire, Max Payne) are considered flops unless they move minimum 4 million copies.
Even if VS 13 was only in dev since 2010 (unlikely), it will still be 4+ years before it hits shelves, it needs to sell millions to make up for the time and effort. The mainline FF branding will ensure that.
lal
plutoknight
Member
That'd go over well for the Japanese fans of Final Fantasy.
Various Artists
Banned
Exactly, it has almost certainly been changed to FFXV now. Its crazy that so many of our leaks are coming from different online vendors now.
Microsoft War Chest is too powerful.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Shhh... no tears, only dreams M_Night.
Comandr
Member
Then this shouldn't be a surprise to you. Games are moved onto next gen platforms for whatever reason. PS4 install base won't be a concern if the game launches winter of 2014 and Final Fantasy is a system seller.
People bought PS3s for Versus :lol
Like me.
I bought a PS3 for The Last Guardian. FFXIII was just the icing on the cake. What have I done with my life?
Perfection.gif
The pieces are coming together, soon!
I hope they redesign the logo though
Viola of the Abyss
Member
The thing I'm asking myself about all this is who the hell is that guy selling a copy of the game for $250??
Talk about scam...
Talk about scam...
Dead Prince
Banned
i would totally buy it to secure my copy of the game.
BasilZero
Member
Maybe Amazon gave up waiting.
I mean there's no chance the game will be released this year or anytime soon next year.
Doesnt Lightning Returns come out later this year (assuming it comes out later in other versions - it is safe to say it might come out probably the first month of 2014 or second month, similar to FFXIII-2).
So either a change in title or it'll be re-designed/announced for the PS4.
I mean there's no chance the game will be released this year or anytime soon next year.
Doesnt Lightning Returns come out later this year (assuming it comes out later in other versions - it is safe to say it might come out probably the first month of 2014 or second month, similar to FFXIII-2).
So either a change in title or it'll be re-designed/announced for the PS4.