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UPDATE 2

PS4 LTD - 6250
Xbox One LTD - 4100

Net additions

PS4 - 3040
Xbox One - 2110

Additional note - At the chain in question, PS4 pre-orders are no longer guaranteed for launch, Xbox One pre-orders still are which may have effected the figures. A total of 4500 PS4's have been pre-ordered in this region at this one retailer (around 20 stores in the region) that are guaranteed for launch day.

UPDATE

PS4 LTD Total - 3210
Xbox One LTD Total - 1990

Net additions:

PS4 - 900
XB1 - 590

For the week just passed, PS4 > XB1 by a 2:1 ratio.

Data accurate to 17/07/13

Comes from the same source, thanks for the update.


OLD DATA
~2200 PS4 Deposits LTD
~110 PS4 "Game Exclusive" Deposits LTD
~1400 Xbox One Deposits LTD

~360 PS4 Deposits WTD (not including yesterday or today)
~110 PS4 "Game Exclusive" Deposits WTD
~180 Xbox One Deposits WTD

Since the reveal of the PS4 hardware at E3 pre-orders have been tracking 2:1 in favour of it, for the three weeks before that they were in higher for the Xbox One (after their reveal event).

For those of you who know, you know the source, but he would rather remain anonymous to protect his job so I am making the thread on his behalf. I have proof of the source's figures, they are real.

Figures are for a single region for a single retailer.

 

[Freki]

It seems like people don't appreciate 24h online checks, mandatory Kinect, draconian used game policies and a higher pricepoint.

Fortunately Microsoft still has a product to sell to those people in the future - it's called xbox 360...

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Can you or the other dude from the thread explain the deposits?

nvm, I think I see how it works.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Bad news for MS. UK ratios were close to US ratios this gen and that was their only stronghold in Europe. Mainland figures are probably much more in Sony's favour.

 

[frankie_baby]

Doesn't surprise me at all, I'd expect the x bone could make Wii u sales look good

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

 

[Loris146]

Interesting. UK is Microsoft's land. Pretty good numbers for PS4.

 

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Yeah, preorders pretty much don't say anything about how well the systems are going t osell.

 

[Buzzman]

Is this for all of Britain or one chain?

 

[gofreak]

I've read what I guess would be the equivalent of our 'musings' on Irish discussion boards that paint a similar picture at an individual store level, in some cases more extreme (i.e. pre-E3 Xbox lead, after E3 a massive shift). Of course it's not hard data.

 

[Canis lupus]

Is this for all of Britain or one chain?

1 retailer

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Is this for all of Britain or one chain?

In the OP - single retailer, single region.

 

[Freki]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

What? PS4 is #1 on amazon sales charts worldwide since monday...

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Is this for all of Britain or one chain?

I think it's pretty obvious if reading the OP. One chain.

 

[Moobabe]

Is this for all of Britain or one chain?

Here you go

Figures are for a single region for a single retailer.

 

[Mario007]

I've read what I guess would be the equivalent of our 'musings' on Irish discussion boards that paint a similar picture at an individual store level, in some cases more extreme (i.e. pre-E3 Xbox lead, after E3 a massive shift). Of course it's not hard data.

It's weird that Xbone even had that lead pre 3 given their reveal event.

 

[Terbinator]

WTD?

 

[DBT85]

Interesting, will we get updated figures over the coming weeks at all?

 

[ambientmystic]

WTD?

Week to Date, I think.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

WTD?

Week to date (since E3, basically).

 

[uncleniccius]

Here you go

Does that mean the whole of England or just one region, EG: Somerset?

 

[Maledict]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

That was immediately after the Xbox reveal and pre-E3. The PS4 has been significantly ahead of the XBO on amazon's public listings for the past week in pretty much every country where you can buy both, including the UK.

 

[Mung]

Yeah, preorders pretty much don't say anything about how well the systems are going t osell.

I agree 100%. I think ps4's lead is going to be much greater in actual sales over this holiday.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I need chav numbers, stat!

 

[Metalmurphy]

What's a "Game Exclusive" Deposits?

 

[Moral Panic]

I think it all comes down to price. You can't be so much more expensive than the competition when you are otherwise pretty much the same games.

 

[benny_a]

Doesn't surprise me at all, I'd expect the x bone could make Wii u sales look good

You might want to adjust your Xbone expectations upwards, despite how shitty the system is.

 

[Anth1888]

Bad news for Microsoft considering the 360 base in the UK and how tight the competition between the 360 and PS3.

I was in GAME yesterday and 5 people in the queue were buying The Last of Us and 2 trading in there 360's for a PS3.

 

[electroshockwave]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

Wasn't that only before E3? PS4 has been top of the bestsellers all week.

 

[Moobabe]

Does that mean the whole of England or just one region, EG: Somerset?

Regions are divided up oddly - they can typically include a number of counties, while something like London is it's own region given the volume of stores.

What's a "Game Exclusive" Deposits?

http://www.game.co.uk/en/playstatio...ndle-deposit-209603?categoryIdentifier=414101

 

[TheMink]

~2200 PS4 Deposits LTD
~110 PS4 "Game Exclusive" Deposits LTD
~1400 Xbox One Deposits LTD

~360 PS4 Deposits WTD (not including yesterday or today)
~110 PS4 "Game Exclusive" Deposits WTD
~180 Xbox One Deposits WTD

Eeehehehehe

 

[MrCookiepants]

The launch won't matter in the long run, but Sony should get off to a strong start at least. This will be a fun generation.

 

[Kyoufu]

What's a "Game Exclusive" Deposits?

I'm assuming this is from GAME so it must be their exclusive bundles.

 

[Anth1888]

What's a "Game Exclusive" Deposits?

It's an exclusive bundle with Killzone SF and DriveClub.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/playstatio...ndle-deposit-209603?categoryIdentifier=414101

 

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Doesn't surprise me at all, I'd expect the x bone could make Wii u sales look good

Wii U's first months sales were great, and it's doubtful that even the PS4 will beat them.

It's the following months where the PS4 will most likely smoke the Wii U if Sony plays it right.

 

[Rad-]

The fact that the tides changed after E3 tells me the main problem for XO is indeed the high price, with the DRM stuff being a more minor one (but still a "big" one).

 

[DirtRiver]

Does anyone know if Sony is likely to encounter supply issues with the increasing interest in the PS4 at launch? They have said they have not entered mass manufacturing yet, but I would imagine they must be having to strike some manufacturing deals to make sure they have enough units at launch.

 

[electroshockwave]

Yeah, preorders pretty much don't say anything about how well the systems are going t osell.

I agree 100%. I think ps4's lead is going to be much greater in actual sales over this holiday.

You're likely right if the Xbone is having yield/supply issues before you even account for demand.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I think it all comes down to price. You can't be so much more expensive than the competition when you are otherwise pretty much the same games.

I think the more informed people who know of MSFT's policies are also making the switch. Also, you aren't missing out terribly if you're not getting an Xbone. Not yet. The PS4 should have a very strong launch and that's not even counting PSN titles.

2nd question rescinded, it was answered a few posts up

 

[uncleniccius]

Regions are divided up oddly - they can typically include a number of counties, while something like London is it's own region given the volume of stores.



http://www.game.co.uk/en/playstatio...ndle-deposit-209603?categoryIdentifier=414101

OK, so how much of the UK would this be approximately? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'd like to have a vague idea of total UK preorders.

 

[DBT85]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

Don't think they have said anything since E3.

Also on Amazon you could order the Xbone before the PS4 IIRC.

 

[PJV3]

I agree 100%. I think ps4's lead is going to be much greater in actual sales over this holiday.

Software should be interesting(post launch) with people using the xbox library feature to share games.

 

[Tratorn]

What does PS4 "Game Exclusive" Deposits mean?

 

[VanquishUK]

It's an exclusive bundle with Killzone SF and DriveClub.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/playstatio...ndle-deposit-209603?categoryIdentifier=414101

Are there any Killzone and Watch Dogs bundles in the UK?

 

[Moobabe]

OK, so how much of the UK would this be approximately? Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'd like to have a vague idea of total UK preorders.

I couldn't say unfortunately. Maybe less than a quarter? That's an estimate though.

 

[DBT85]

Software should be interesting with people using the xbox library feature to share games.

With day 1 digital as well it's going to be difficult to see how much everything has sold anyway. Tretton said the Vita is like 60% digital.

 

[Freki]

The fact that the tides changed after E3 tells me the main problem for XO is indeed the high price, with the DRM stuff being a more minor one (but still a "big" one).

The sales before E3 looked like this:

1840 PS4
1220 XBone

Not as lopsided as today but still in PS4s favor - the pricepoint just added to the problems....

 

[Maledict]

Surprising considering places like Amazon have said they are tracking more Xbox One pre-orders.

Yeah, preorders pretty much don't say anything about how well the systems are going t osell.

That's not completely true. A large part of why the Xbox 360 has done so well is because it had much better multi-player and online abilities at launch, had a years head start and built up large online communities right from the start. The console that has the larger install base is going to be the best one for online gaming simply because it has more players and bigger communities.

If all the rumours re supply amounts are true, and the PS4 takes an early lead in sales then it will naturally gain momentum just because you want to play online with your friends. Right now in the UK my 360 is better for online gaming just because its what everyone has. If in April 2014 the ps4 is the console that's ahead in sales and has the larger install base you'd go with that because it allows you to play with more people and the odds are higher its what your friends have.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I couldn't say unfortunately. Maybe less than a quarter? That's an estimate though.

So roughly 1/4 of a single chain? The whole of the UK would be fascinating to see.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Can you tell us the region? I think it's safe to say the retailer is Game, but knowing the region would be interesting...