leatherhat
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How bad was wiiU last month that people are predicting 30k or less?
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May 2013 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes June 10
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Aquamarine
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Around ~37,000 for April.
leatherhat
Member
Yeesh
Petrae
Member
Given that 3DS unit sales were only 115,000 last May, that really shouldn't be a tough task.
To be fair, they all were pretty bad...
I know, selling more than 115k shouldn't be SO difficult, but let's see. I still think last month's result is a consequence of lack of Easter compared to 2012, and so that, if it have been like last year, March 2013's result would have been down YOY, while April 2013's result up.
Couple tweets from Pachter...
Michael Pachter ‏@michaelpachter 13m
I can't/won't publish any data from the NPD, but found it interesting that software sales for console/handheld were lowest since May 2000
Michael Pachter ‏@michaelpachter 11m
This console transition is reminiscent of PS1 to PS2; at least, the numbers make it look that way. My kids were in diapers in 2000, btw
Michael Pachter ‏@michaelpachter 13m
I can't/won't publish any data from the NPD, but found it interesting that software sales for console/handheld were lowest since May 2000
Michael Pachter ‏@michaelpachter 11m
This console transition is reminiscent of PS1 to PS2; at least, the numbers make it look that way. My kids were in diapers in 2000, btw
Bruno MB
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I won't be surprised if combined retail sales for these 3 games are below 250k units.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Just hold out for one month, industry. I provided some revenue for you for June. Don't know when it will happen again.
Megadragon15
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No numbers? Must be bad.
Aquamarine
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Must be sub-100K.
IncandescentPrecept
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That means that the 3DS outsold the 360.
metalslimer
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And yet no price drops or fucks are given at this point it seems.
We thought the same thing last month, but it would be pretty sad if the 3DS didn't outsell it this month and for the rest of the year. 3DS should be on top the rest of the year and if not something went wrong.
Anyway now we begin the countdown to the shitstorm that will be October or November NPD.
We thought the same thing last month, but it would be pretty sad if the 3DS didn't outsell it this month and for the rest of the year. 3DS should be on top the rest of the year and if not something went wrong.
Anyway now we begin the countdown to the shitstorm that will be October or November NPD.
Aquamarine
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MasterSheen
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There was at least two instances where it was thought that 3DS outsold 360 because MS using "console", but both cases were proven false.
Edit: Nailed my 360 prediction!
metalslimer
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Yay, 3DS prediction was probably a bit low though.
3DS sold the most out of any hardware according to Nintendo PR.
Nintendo News
Nintendo 3DS Was the Best-Selling Video Game Platform in May
Nintendo 3DS continued its strong year with another first: The platform was the best-selling video game hardware platform in the United States in May. The launch of Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D on May 23 and another strong month for Luigis Mansion: Dark Moon helped Nintendo 3DS software sales in stores increase by more than 60 percent over the same time last year. Nintendo 3DS also had two of the top three best-selling software SKUs for the month, with Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D at No. 2 and Luigis Mansion: Dark Moon at No. 3.
At the recently concluded E3 trade show in Los Angeles, Nintendo defined its proposition for the holiday season by showcasing a cavalcade of great games coming for the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS systems in 2013. Starting in August and continuing through the end of the year, Wii U will launch one major game a month, including Pikmin 3 (Aug. 4), The Wonderful 101 (Sept. 15), The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (October), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (November) and Super Mario 3D World (December). Nintendo 3DS will build on its momentum with the successive launches of Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Aug. 11), Pokémon X and Pokémon Y (Oct. 12) Mario Party for Nintendo 3DS (name not final, November) and The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (November).
Nintendo 3DS Was the Best-Selling Video Game Platform in May
Nintendo 3DS continued its strong year with another first: The platform was the best-selling video game hardware platform in the United States in May. The launch of Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D on May 23 and another strong month for Luigis Mansion: Dark Moon helped Nintendo 3DS software sales in stores increase by more than 60 percent over the same time last year. Nintendo 3DS also had two of the top three best-selling software SKUs for the month, with Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D at No. 2 and Luigis Mansion: Dark Moon at No. 3.
At the recently concluded E3 trade show in Los Angeles, Nintendo defined its proposition for the holiday season by showcasing a cavalcade of great games coming for the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS systems in 2013. Starting in August and continuing through the end of the year, Wii U will launch one major game a month, including Pikmin 3 (Aug. 4), The Wonderful 101 (Sept. 15), The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (October), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (November) and Super Mario 3D World (December). Nintendo 3DS will build on its momentum with the successive launches of Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Aug. 11), Pokémon X and Pokémon Y (Oct. 12) Mario Party for Nintendo 3DS (name not final, November) and The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (November).
ambientmystic
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EDIT:- nvm, just caught it
Yikes! PS3 might just end up being sub 100k or maybe just above.
I honestly fear for Vita and Wii U numbers.
I'm expecting a slight bump in June NPD for PS3 numbers because of TLOU.
Yeah, I think this is just generation fatigue. It's gone on long enough. What were the releases in May? In the next few months Prices need to come down on the current gen systems.
I honestly fear for Vita and Wii U numbers.
I'm expecting a slight bump in June NPD for PS3 numbers because of TLOU.
Yeah, I think this is just generation fatigue. It's gone on long enough. What were the releases in May? In the next few months Prices need to come down on the current gen systems.
It better of done considering the Xbox did 114k. Anything below that would be shocking!!
metalslimer
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Somewhat excited to see the Vita and Wii U numbers #schadenfreude
Sammy Samusu
Member
Slay.
It deserves and should be selling much more though.
The DS 500k days are over.
Well, at least 3DS is doing well, relatively. DK at #2 and LM at #3 seems surprisingly good to me, too. Wish we had hard numbers though!
Aquamarine
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Uh oh... no hard numbers.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Prepare to be depressed :/
Exterminieren
Banned
Woah, impressive for DKCR and particularly Luigi. Software seems strong across the world by this point.
Sammy Samusu
Member
It's time to release Revelations 2!
Nice use of "console", sounds like he's excluding portables.
Considering that a new hardware bundle was launched and AC sold 200k+ in it's first week, I think next month will be very good for the system.
gigantor21
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Oh, NPD numbers are out today? So I'll be spending the next 6 hours fishing for creamsugar posts? So be it.
I shudder to think what the Vita and WiiU numbers are going to be.
I shudder to think what the Vita and WiiU numbers are going to be.
Indeed. Sounds like the "Nintendo Family" line might be dragged up again.
IncandescentPrecept
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What is Sony waiting for to drop the PS3 and Vita prices?
Constant revenue + increasing development costs over 13 years. Much fewer games to share the revenue nowadays, though.
Aquamarine
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-06-17-game-sales-at-us-retail-plummet-in-may
NPD report shows software, led by Injustice: Gods Among Us, down 44% as total industry sales fall 25%. Software sales were the lowest since May 2000
Coming off E3, the industry has a sense of optimism, looking forward to new consoles, new games and new technologies. The reality of today, however, is that retail sales are dreadful. NPD's May 2013 report shows an overall drop of 25 percent, as sales fell to $386.3 million, while software got hammered, dropping 44 percent to $187.6 million and hardware fell 31 percent to $96 million. Accessories also fell six percent to $115.3 million.
Liam Callahan, NPD analyst, explained, "Overall entertainment software declines, down forty-four percent, were driven partly by sharp year-over-year declines within PC games due to poor comparisons to last year's Diablo 3 release."
"Softness in new physical entertainment software sales stemmed from a decline in the number of new launches, with over 30 percent fewer new SKUs, as well as poor performance of the new SKUs that were released. New SKUs generated over seventy percent less units on a per-SKU basis, and a decrease of over eighty percent revenue per SKU," he continued. "Overall new launch performance in May'13 was poor, down 84 percent in units, decreasing 88 percent in dollars, which was driven by PCs and Consoles as new launches for portables were up 5 percent in units, and down only 7 percent in dollars."
"In May 2013, the top 10 games represented a lower percentage of sales compared to games from the previous few Mays at 18 percent of overall unit sales and 25 percent of overall dollars, compared to 30 percent of units and 45 percent of dollars in May 2012. This is contrary to trends we've been seeing over the last few years with the top ten games generating a larger percentage of overall sales and may be indicative of the weak new launch performance this May."
Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter noted on Twitter that this May's software numbers were actually the lowest for handhelds and consoles since May 2000. The industry clearly needs to do something to drive software sales back up. Publishers are hoping that Xbox One and PS4 are at least part of the solution this holiday.
The hardware side of the industry didn't fare much better than software. While NPD doesn't give us units data anymore, the firm noted that 3DS, which saw sales flat year-over-year with May 2012, represented the best performance. "Nintendo's 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables. However, the 360 was the top selling console hardware platform this month for the twenty-ninth consecutive month," Callahan said.
NPD report shows software, led by Injustice: Gods Among Us, down 44% as total industry sales fall 25%. Software sales were the lowest since May 2000
Coming off E3, the industry has a sense of optimism, looking forward to new consoles, new games and new technologies. The reality of today, however, is that retail sales are dreadful. NPD's May 2013 report shows an overall drop of 25 percent, as sales fell to $386.3 million, while software got hammered, dropping 44 percent to $187.6 million and hardware fell 31 percent to $96 million. Accessories also fell six percent to $115.3 million.
Liam Callahan, NPD analyst, explained, "Overall entertainment software declines, down forty-four percent, were driven partly by sharp year-over-year declines within PC games due to poor comparisons to last year's Diablo 3 release."
"Softness in new physical entertainment software sales stemmed from a decline in the number of new launches, with over 30 percent fewer new SKUs, as well as poor performance of the new SKUs that were released. New SKUs generated over seventy percent less units on a per-SKU basis, and a decrease of over eighty percent revenue per SKU," he continued. "Overall new launch performance in May'13 was poor, down 84 percent in units, decreasing 88 percent in dollars, which was driven by PCs and Consoles as new launches for portables were up 5 percent in units, and down only 7 percent in dollars."
"In May 2013, the top 10 games represented a lower percentage of sales compared to games from the previous few Mays at 18 percent of overall unit sales and 25 percent of overall dollars, compared to 30 percent of units and 45 percent of dollars in May 2012. This is contrary to trends we've been seeing over the last few years with the top ten games generating a larger percentage of overall sales and may be indicative of the weak new launch performance this May."
Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter noted on Twitter that this May's software numbers were actually the lowest for handhelds and consoles since May 2000. The industry clearly needs to do something to drive software sales back up. Publishers are hoping that Xbox One and PS4 are at least part of the solution this holiday.
The hardware side of the industry didn't fare much better than software. While NPD doesn't give us units data anymore, the firm noted that 3DS, which saw sales flat year-over-year with May 2012, represented the best performance. "Nintendo's 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables. However, the 360 was the top selling console hardware platform this month for the twenty-ninth consecutive month," Callahan said.
metalslimer
Member
Good for Donkey
Microsoft does exclude handhelds from their comparisons. It neither supports 3DS being higher nor provides evidence against 3DS being higher. Just FYI.
Napalm_Frank
Member
What is lower, Wii U or Fuse?