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Xbone PR: the 60 Minute Family Plan Revelation
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JetBlackPanda
Member
I believe this 100% but why would Major Nelson tell Angry Joe to think of it just like a library.
Oh wait library's have dates to return.
Damn.
This entire thing is LoL
Oh wait library's have dates to return.
Damn.
This entire thing is LoL
Can Crusher
Banned
MS with the slight of hand, this is hilarious.
Oh look, it's someone who didn't read the OP.
astroturfing
Member
i've never really paid attention to Major Nelson (god what a terrible name to use), but i've been watching some interviews lately and stuff... so umm... why have people been coming to him for information and treated him as some sort of an important figure in the gaming industry the past few years? guy comes off as slimy as fuck, everything that comes out of his mouth is deceptive and misleading, on purpose even.
kinda off-topic, sorry lol.
kinda off-topic, sorry lol.
And Microsoft was happy to deceive the press and in effect the people with this policy. There were no corrections or statements about the 60 minute trials. They fucking lied to everyone and let the press continue to spread the lie.
This is why I think it depends on WHY they abandoned it, if it's just backlash they absolutely will try again, if it's due to the logistics biting them on the ass... they'll wait until conditions are favorable if they ever are. Either way it's why the XB1's going to be an exclusives only console for me if I got it, just want to play the likes of D4, Quantum Break, and Sunset Overdrive if they're good.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I'm speechless!
It's called CheapAssGamer. lol
People still do it with PS3 shares even though it's limited to two people.
Quadraphonic
Member
Uhh.... WHAT.
Is this a real post?
CBOAT has continued to post a lot of important Xbox One information in a cryptic way so as to make it harder for search engines to find and even less likely for news site to steal the info and report on it. Also to disguise any chance of identifying him through a writing style.
Information has included game reveals, the DRM policy specifics, CPU/GPU speed/yield issues, and a whole host of other things that have all 100% came true, in spite of people challenging him.
I know, right? Game sharing with 10 of your friends sounds way more believable.
but you can't call if family share now. They have to rebrand it.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Official confirmation the game sharing was just demos.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Ahahahah, I kinda wish this would have happened, just for laughs.
EA would love it. LOVE IT!
"your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games."
After microsoft regrouped and try to spin the need for online check-ins and always online this quote was pretty common on a lot of sites and from multiple PR reps and outlets. Message was still messy but this line was still consistent.
When you see a consistent line repeated you know its been vetted by lawyers, because promoting unlimited access and denying it is a legal headache waiting to happen.
Thats not even a feature anyone in their right mind would tout when it is on playstation for everybody with a PS+ account for certain games
After microsoft regrouped and try to spin the need for online check-ins and always online this quote was pretty common on a lot of sites and from multiple PR reps and outlets. Message was still messy but this line was still consistent.
When you see a consistent line repeated you know its been vetted by lawyers, because promoting unlimited access and denying it is a legal headache waiting to happen.
Thats not even a feature anyone in their right mind would tout when it is on playstation for everybody with a PS+ account for certain games
King Beyond the wall
Member
I bet all those Xbone apologists who accused the critics of MS of ruining the glorious digital future of video games are feeling a little silly right now.
TAJ
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3rdamention
Member
Microsoft had 2 choices, piss off everyone even more when the Family Sharing Plan that sounded so good on paper, was revealed to only be a 15 to 60 minute demo, or just scrap everything altogether. They knew they couldn't reveal the Family Sharing as it was really constructed, especially since most of the information they gave never alluded to, hinted at, or mentioned a one hour limit on family shared games.
The Family Sharing plan was presented as an alternative to their DRM schemes. It was supposed to make you think "Wow, this DRM really sucks, but family sharing more than makes up for it, what a great feature!" Except, the Family Sharing wasn't a great feature, it was actually a pretty shitty feature.
I have to give Microsoft Credit, they are doing things that NOBODY predicted they would do. They are scraping their whole DRM and Used Game schemes they had built straight into their system, and replacing it with a page out of Sony's playbook, to simply implement nothing.
I still look at all the man hours, all the time, all the engineer work and coding to set up their "Family Sharing" plan, to set up the network and infrastructure to allow partner stores to trade in used Xbone Games, the system that was set up to detect whether you owned a game or not, the software that was built to allow you to give a game to a friend of 30 days. This is all some pretty complicated shit, that took hundreds of thousands of hours to create and probably millions of dollars to build.
Now, here is Microsoft Today, standing on a pile of rubble that once was their future of Console Gaming, the future of DRM and Used Games. I have to think the damage is already done.
Next, they will scrap Kinect from the box, lower the price to $399, and all the other thousands of hours built into the TV Interface side and "Xbox Go Home" will be tossed out the window as well. Just watch!!!
The Family Sharing plan was presented as an alternative to their DRM schemes. It was supposed to make you think "Wow, this DRM really sucks, but family sharing more than makes up for it, what a great feature!" Except, the Family Sharing wasn't a great feature, it was actually a pretty shitty feature.
I have to give Microsoft Credit, they are doing things that NOBODY predicted they would do. They are scraping their whole DRM and Used Game schemes they had built straight into their system, and replacing it with a page out of Sony's playbook, to simply implement nothing.
I still look at all the man hours, all the time, all the engineer work and coding to set up their "Family Sharing" plan, to set up the network and infrastructure to allow partner stores to trade in used Xbone Games, the system that was set up to detect whether you owned a game or not, the software that was built to allow you to give a game to a friend of 30 days. This is all some pretty complicated shit, that took hundreds of thousands of hours to create and probably millions of dollars to build.
Now, here is Microsoft Today, standing on a pile of rubble that once was their future of Console Gaming, the future of DRM and Used Games. I have to think the damage is already done.
Next, they will scrap Kinect from the box, lower the price to $399, and all the other thousands of hours built into the TV Interface side and "Xbox Go Home" will be tossed out the window as well. Just watch!!!
JetBlackPanda
Member
You can play the game an unlimted amount of times from the start for 1 hour.
tinfoilhatman
all of my posts are my avatar
Can't believe people actually believe this stuff, but hey I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.
This is the gift that keeps giving, can't wait for the eventual book about this mess
pretty typical of those fishing for a job at ms
pretty typical of those fishing for a job at ms
NoLootBoxDev
Member
I still find funny the people that wants to support Microsoft, knowing now their best card was nothing more than a 60 min demo.Next gen will be glorious as Microsoft will be back to their original plans for DRM, I am almost sure they will, and it will be an disaster.
That was Major Nelson's statements. They acted like they don't have to be your "family." And only mentioned being able to play someone else's library.
There was no mention of it only being a 60 minute trial.
I won't blame consumers for being deceived by Microsoft. It's a scummy thing for them to do.
Manmademan
Member
publishers may or may not have been all that wild about giving unrestricted access to all of their games for an hour. It's possible licensing agreements or payment arrangements to do so may have to have been renegotiated, now that the entire DRM scam has gone tits up.
as for "not necessary", multiplayer being locked behind a paywall for Gold didn't make sense either- but companies will charge or paywall anything they can possibly get away with.
maquiladora
Member
They seem to have lost their typing fingers at the moment.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Reading this stuff, with a new disastrous tidbit every day, for the past few weeks is just mind-blowing. I've always said I enjoy a huge corporate failure but this is the most toxic (and most entertaining) PR and the most amateurish, confused messaging I've seen for a huge product launch in my entire life. It's almost like the people selling the Xbox One aren't even on the same page with what it can actually do, even now.
It just keeps going on, and on, to the point where I'm questioning whether everyone at this company has completely lost their mind. Not in a million years would I have seen this level of fail coming before their first conference. Nearly everything has gone wrong so far, ending in an exasperated abandonment of every single policy they built - presumably over many years - for this thing. Insanity!
I wonder what's next...
It just keeps going on, and on, to the point where I'm questioning whether everyone at this company has completely lost their mind. Not in a million years would I have seen this level of fail coming before their first conference. Nearly everything has gone wrong so far, ending in an exasperated abandonment of every single policy they built - presumably over many years - for this thing. Insanity!
I wonder what's next...
Killing_Joke
Member
So the REAL reason was because family share blew up so out of fucking control they had no choice but to pull the plug. lmao fucking hell.
It honestly makes perfect sense now. There is NO reason to get rid of family share. So they sugar coat it, in order to get rid of drm and always online they had to turn off family share. Fuck off MS. This revelation could have been the nail in the coffin for without a doubt the most epic PR fails in electronics history.
It honestly makes perfect sense now. There is NO reason to get rid of family share. So they sugar coat it, in order to get rid of drm and always online they had to turn off family share. Fuck off MS. This revelation could have been the nail in the coffin for without a doubt the most epic PR fails in electronics history.
LiquidSolid
Member
Not just Xbone news either, he's been posting accurate leaks for close to 10 years now. He leaked that the 360 would have a HDD-less SKU.
JetBlackPanda
Member
To be fair CBOAT said all along their DRM was worse and more was coming.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
NullPointer
Member
It being nothing but demoes is lame. I do wonder if the reason it was always so vague was talks to increase/change what it was. That seemed to be the case with a lot of the DRM, as it WAS originally always online before orth, then it was 24 hours because of the freakout. Then a continued shitstorm dropped it entirely. It's hard to get a concrete look at what the xbox one would have turned out like as it seemed to be tweaked constantly.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Was the secret sauce "the cloud?"
MrCunningham
Member
I can totally see why they dropped this "feature" now. What's the point of letting someone demo your game for 60 minutes, when you could just hand them the disc instead for an unlimited amount of playtime?
This really was one of the few features I was for, but seriously, 60 minutes? Yeah, no.
This really was one of the few features I was for, but seriously, 60 minutes? Yeah, no.
I've been saying this for days.
We can only hope!
NullPointer
Member
Is this double sarcasm?
malboroking
Banned
Jesus, you again? We believe it because our Microsoft inside said it to be true and he's been right about everything else he's leaked. But by all means, continue to ignore any bad news about the Xbone. You're such an apologist.
statham
Member
a little bit.
MikeE21286
Member
Think about his post for like just 3 more seconds....
You are either joking or the favourite consumer of every corporation ever.