dragonelite
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Just like i thought //Build is for windows developers something like XNA will be announced at an GDC. Probably next year or so given how they need all the man power to improve the dev tools.
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Rumor: Microsoft announcing Indie self-publishing for Xbox One this week at BUILD?
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Syphon Filter
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Clearly you don't know much about business.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Doesn't make sense to call your desktop music app Xbox Music and yet here we are.
Games is a large part of it. They even did a several minute demo on an Xbox One game at the end to close the keynote.
Literally all they had to do was "also we're unifying our Windows platforms so that you can publish to Windows, Windows Phone and Xbox in a single dev environment." Instead they said nothing.
They've always done this. They're rolling out "Xbox games" on iOS and Android as well.
It's so strange, it's like the entire setup of the Xbox One was designed around cross-platform publishing. That had to have been a plan at some point; I guess they can still add it in the future, but it seems like something devs would want to know ahead of time.
I suppose it is to stop Xbox Games Marketplace a clusterfuck of self published shit like the IOS app store.
I bet they will just cherry pick the best games and enable developers to go live on Xbox
rakkadakka
Member
What?
You mean large multi-nationals aren't non-profits dedicated to the betterment of humanity?
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
$100 cheaper, better first party studios, better console...nope.
I expected one or two sentences and didn't even get that. They don't seem to have a plan for indies at all.
The OP should probably be updated, btw.
I realise that, but isn't the choice to split Xbox/Windows down to prevent the fart apps or the sexy 90's CG lady dating sims of XBLIG from making their way to Xbox One?
Tripolygon
Banned
subjective.
Syphon Filter
Member
First party is debatable, theirs people who prefer MS games and now with MS growing their first party output it will be even better.
TheLegendOfMart
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Yes, I realise that, but I was specifically talking about the difference between Windows 8 apps and Xbox One apps.
nevermind, it seems I am talking about something else entirely.
PapaJustify
Member
Yeah, but Microsoft has so many APIs and products and the focus for the keynote was obviously not on game development or Xbox One. And even indie development is only a small part of the bigger picture, so I could understand if they mention in an game development dedicated session.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Jeez, so what was Notch alluding to in that tweet? Another scrapped policy?
Do apps include games?
TheLegendOfMart
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Monty Mole
Member
Why? There are plenty of other devices that indies can flock to. Microsoft's loss, not yours.
Well... in 20 minutes the following session starts:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/2-047
Building games for Windows
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/2-047
Building games for Windows
Are the sessions covered online or are they just for attendees?
Anything MS announces is going to be cobbled together to compete with Sony. The point of announcing such an indie plan is to bring more content to your platform. Sony will benefit by having self published indie games from DAY 1. They had this plan together for awhile now so they could do that. On the other hand, Microsoft hasn't announced their plan and will not have additional indie titles at launch because they have dragged their feet. If they announce at GDC they will have wasted so much time that could have been used to get indie titles out for launch. So, if they use GDC to announce something it will be mainly to check off a box on the feature list of the console.
Some will be streamed at Channel 9 but the streaming schedule is currently offline for some reason. But most session replays can be watched afterwards.
I was just hoping that when I make a PS4 game I could just easily port it to the XB1 as well. There doesn't seem to be any chance of that happening within the first year of XB1.
IHaveCandy
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MS likely doesn't want self-publishing because they don't want "race to the bottom" pricing.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
As per the page, you'll be able to watch it 24-48 hours after it's finished. If they announce something related to XB1 I'm sure we'll hear it before then.
Miles Quaritch
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LukasTaves
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That was a problem that plagued XBLIG, but does not occur very often with ios app store for instance, because they have tools and people guaranteeing that what is new and high quality gets properly featured... I think the better option is to have everything in, but increase discovery for the apps games that receive acclaim.
Two more days actually. But no keynote on 28th, just tomorrow and they already confirmed that tomorrow is all azure and office.
PRT is a hardware feature, the developer still needs to implement something that uses that. Ms has put support for it right inside dx11, so any developer can use without having to implement it themselves.
It's definitely nothing that Sony can't do herself, though.
Slightly OT, but I heard that pointer events are changing in IE11. Not sure how this would affect in-development SG projects off the top of my head, but cool to see some updates nonetheless.
edit: yeah, this is what I was referring to.. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn304886(v=vs.85).aspx
Ok - so here is hope:
Steven Guggenheimer just hinted at something in the Build livestream for tomorrow. Quote from memory:
Person A: "What about XNA?"
Person B: "We will talk about games tomorrow at the keynote - I won't say XNA. We will have something that you will like... let's tease it that way"
he is talking about the keynote tomorrow. One of the points of the Agenda is "tools, tools, tools"
http://channel9.msdn.com/
Rewind to 02:10:00 to hear it.
Steven Guggenheimer just hinted at something in the Build livestream for tomorrow. Quote from memory:
Person A: "What about XNA?"
Person B: "We will talk about games tomorrow at the keynote - I won't say XNA. We will have something that you will like... let's tease it that way"
he is talking about the keynote tomorrow. One of the points of the Agenda is "tools, tools, tools"
http://channel9.msdn.com/
Rewind to 02:10:00 to hear it.
I saw that as well. Tommorow it is then.
I'm also intrested in top AAA games coming to windows store. Maybe they will remove GFWL(which is dead) and use the windows store instead.
Bringing Desktop PC games to Windows Store:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2013/3-190
Just curious. Do you work for MS, StudioTan? 98% of your postings are about either MS, Windows 8 or Xbox, and you're always in support or defense mode.
Probably just talks about how desktop apps can be listed in the store with a link to where to download it.
Would they really do a whole presentation to tell you how to put it in the store...has to be a bit more than that.
dragonelite
Member
Ooh no believe me they have that its even an level 200 course.
So not even that hard those are more orientation courses. At least if the ratings are the same as they use with MS techdays.
Neuromancer
Member
Oh well MS disappoints once again. I'm numb to it all by now.
Can we get a title change?
Can we get a title change?
Nah it's not over yet. See the above posts. I would update the original post with the info about something being announced during tomorrow's keynote however.
SuperSonic1305
Member
No, no it really isn't. You can prefer Halo and Fable to Sony's games but Microsoft studios can't even touch Sony or Nintendo.
I actually made a new thread since it is not clear if it is really about self publishing though game related.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=604881
Wish they would completely kill GFW and move to somewhere else and have the store for desktop gaming. Would be great for the current Dark Soul port.
Monumental
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Calm down GK. If you don't understand what subjective means then don't try to post about it.
Linked the wrong thread?
Edit: I think this is rather about a Mazda reveal...
lastflowers
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Wasn't that the hash tag for the vita? :lol
GoofsterStud
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Just checking in. This is the first bit of good news that got me excited in the X1 as I'm a huge indie fan.
Reading over everything it looks like nothing was announced? Is that right?
Reading over everything it looks like nothing was announced? Is that right?