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PlanetSmasher
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So in other words, Catherine was completely pointless and an utter waste of time then? They said openly it was a test pilot for the engine and style they wanted to use for the next-gen Persona game. Why bother with that if they're going to then turn around and shit out another PS2-looking game on the 3DS?
It'd be complete bullshit, and I'd probably skip the game out of sheer spite if it happened. Atlus has been recycling PS2-quality assets over and over again for the entire past decade. It's time for them to move into the future with everyone else.
Velcro Fly
Member
Seems more likely than going handheld first and then HD version later.
I mean really who cares what it looks like? If it plays great and has a great story, that is all that matters. If they can accomplish that on a handheld, so be it.
charlequin
Banned
You didn't play Strange Journey?!
PlanetSmasher
Banned
yeah I definetly want that thread to happen now for this meltdown potential
Wouldn't really be a meltdown, would just be Atlus losing a sale. *shrug* Nobody's holding a gun to my head saying I have to buy the game, and if it's another lazy PS2-level game, I'm just not going to.
Easy enough for everyone.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Persona has always been with Sony. SMT has been with Nintendo only recently (after PS2).
Of course that doesn't stop certain people from hoping for some crazy platform choices like WiiU exclusive, 3DS exclusive, Vita Exclusive etc. There reasoning is even worse and in most cases is just a selfish desire because they do not own other platforms or because they like to play on handhelds.
Playing RPGs on handhelds is much more comfortable then sitting through them on a couch, just personal preference but I would be ecstatic with a PSVita version of P5. Games are always better when you can play them on the bed!
And games are expensive, if "recycling" PS2 assets allows them to justify making more and more Persona games thats fine. I don't care about shiny graphics.
yeah clearly no one actually wants it in handhelds for proper reasons, nevermind those giving some
jeez gaf
metalslimer
Member
Persona 5 will be on some HD system no doubt about it. That being said I wouldn't mind a 3DS persona.
yeah I definetly want that thread to happen now for this meltdown potential
You take forum poster meltdown over game that gonna satisfy even yourself, neat.
I get what you saying but 3DS Persona game actually stepback from frigging PS2 game, its different case if its for Vita, I can accept that.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Care to show me some.
Are you actually a fan of Persona games or do you reallly just want some kind of RPG for the home consoles?
I cant fathom a Persona fan saying they'll skip a game just because of the bloody graphics. People don't play them for the graphics, the art style sure but its mostly about the gameplay and story.
I just want Persona 5 in X form dude. Im fine with whatever happens as long as it happens. Im not life or death about it.
the one you mention in your own post, for example.
people who prefer to play on handhelds
how is it selfish for someone to say they'd prefer a 100+hour JRPG experience on a device that is more comfortable and handy for them? how is that different or any less "selfish" than people who'd prefer to sacrifice that in order to have better graphics? people want what's best for them and what they personally prefer. Apparently that's worth pointing out as selfish now.
Err... any example to game that doing this?
Its easier to hype up portable version of console game than the otherwise.
TurnipFritters
Member
console loyalty does not exist in third parties unless they have literally signed a console exclusivity agreement. no such agreement between atlus (index) and sony exists.
resident evil revelations
Pretty sure they actually never said this.
It won't look like a PS2 game. It also won't have anywhere near the production values you see in other RPGs. Surely this is all obvious?
You'll get more info...next week...in a Ninty direct.
Because that have many other alternative 100+hour JRPGs they can play on their handhelds. Because Persona's one of the very, very few JRPG franchises that's big enough to turn a profit on a console instead of JRPG's typical ways of 'playing it safe' on handhelds.
Velcro Fly
Member
Resident Evil Revelations did.
Pretty sure Sony just straight up ported the PSP god of war games in a GoW collection too.
TurnipFritters
Member
i mean it won't have square enix level production values, but i imagine it will be on par with other jrpgs (which is to say: not AAA level)
PlanetSmasher
Banned
I am a fan of both. I'm not expecting the game to have FFXV or Skyrim-level graphics, I just want Atlus to stop making PS2-looking games and evolve with the times. And I want them to make good on their promise to use Catherine's engine for a next-gen Persona. Otherwise, I wasted $60 on a goddamn Q-Bert clone.
Look, I'm not expecting or asking you to agree with me. I'm just sick to death of JRPGs languishing away on handhelds while all I have to play on the consoles is fucking shooters. I've been nursing a massive blood blister on my thumb all week because of the 3DS' tiny-ass buttons. And that's from Animal Crossing, a game that requires maybe 20 minutes of playtime at a time at best. A 60-hour JRPG would probably destroy my entire fucking hand.
If it's a console game and looks on par with Tales of Xillia, I'd be happy. That's all I want - a game that actually looks modern.
And want the game for console platform isn't gonna kill any hope for handheld version, they already provide us with the example. Everyone win.
But the opposite might if its launching on 3DS or something, not everyone win.
This post is so fucking silly.
TurnipFritters
Member
persona has never looked "modern" so i can't imagine why you would expect that now
that'd be like expecting it to be on a non-sony system
I just think speaking of "selfishness" when it comes to videogames or a game series is just kinda stupid.
Like if one has the option to have a game they want in their prefered platform for that game, do you expect them to reject that because in some other guy/girl's mind its unfair to them? decisions are made on certain grounds and whatever decisions is made is because it's the one that made more sense. The people have nothing to do with it (beyond numbers) and calling them out for speaking their mind on what they prefer is just weird.
"hey you're a selfish asshole for wanting this on a platform different than the one I want it in! be fair you already got lots of other games!" I mean what?
Like if one has the option to have a game they want in their prefered platform for that game, do you expect them to reject that because in some other guy/girl's mind its unfair to them? decisions are made on certain grounds and whatever decisions is made is because it's the one that made more sense. The people have nothing to do with it (beyond numbers) and calling them out for speaking their mind on what they prefer is just weird.
"hey you're a selfish asshole for wanting this on a platform different than the one I want it in! be fair you already got lots of other games!" I mean what?
I see what you did there.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
moving away from gamebryo should have been the first indication of that. Though whether they move to handheld or something else remains to be seen
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Yes. I'm silly for preferring console games over handheld games and for finding extended gameplay on a handheld system incredibly uncomfortable. I am a silly, silly person. Damn me for having opinions.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Enjoying a handheld game for its portability is in no way selfish. Wanting a console game (mainline Persona's have always been on consoles) to be on a handheld just for the reason that YOU enjoy playing on a handheld is.
Selfishness is placing concern with oneself or one's own interests above the well-being or interests of others.
I never said it did but Atlus knows where the Persona fanbase is at so it would be absurd for them to not put Persona 5 on the PS3.
Paper Sparrow
Member
No Neko Shogun = No Sale
But seriously, please come out within the next two years.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
THE TEARS OF HAPPINESS THAT ARE FLOWING FROM ME!!!! ALL DEM FEELZ
The fact of the matter is, if Persona can't be bothered to release a console game in 2013, then JRPG players that want something nice looking are fucked everywhere except for Square Enix.
As I've said before, why would anyone purposefully prefer this downgrade
'I can play it on handhelds.' Yeah, there's also a dozen other JRPGs you can play on handhelds.
Hell, might I refer you to Shin Megami Tensei IV.
As I've said before, why would anyone purposefully prefer this downgrade
'I can play it on handhelds.' Yeah, there's also a dozen other JRPGs you can play on handhelds.
Hell, might I refer you to Shin Megami Tensei IV.
This is videogames, people want the things that they personally prefer. Going by your logic then why not Persona 5 on PC? that would cause more shitstorms than ever yet it'd be the most capable version of the game.
I hereby declare that everyone who doesnt want Persona 5 on PC is now selfish.
TurnipFritters
Member
that's why you're my favorite persona community thread poster
just kidding, you're all my favorite!
PlanetSmasher
Banned
And Square won't be releasing anything until late 2014 at the earliest. So console JRPG players are pretty much boned for two entire years.
clay_ghost
Member
WTH? Tales of ? Or even x for the wiiu?
I think when people make JRPGs they have to be careful. These games are not going to sell in massive numbers and putting out a console version is probably going to run you a higher cost then putting it out on a handheld. Its not because people wanted to throw JRPGs on the handhelds is just what the market has dictated. Theres a higher chance of a return on a console like the 3DS then there is probably on the PS3. At the end of the day its a business decision. I understand your qualms but unless there is a resurgence in the popularity of the JRPG I don't know where you expect the that particular category of games to go but onto cheaper platforms.
Especially moving into newer and newer console generations I suspect you'll continue to see developers take to handhelds for JRPGs then the other way around.
If index thinks they can make more money by releasing it on the 3DS/Vita then well they will probably do it. The 3DS has a giant install base and Persona fans bought Vitas for P4G.
Then why you complaining then?
Like I said both recent Persona game available on handheld, its always had HOPE for portable version if P5 launching on console.
But if launch on handheld (especially on 3DS like you want), people that want console game probably screwed.. how hard for you to understand.
? I aint complaining at all, i'll buy persona on whatever it comes out and be happy about it
my whole discussion here is purely about people's reasoning
This supposed 'selfishness' is completely irrelevant because one person's desire has no actual bearing on what will ultimately happen. Not sure why you're making such a big deal out of someone saying they'd like to play X game on X platform when its platform isn't even known yet.
Dragon Quest is also another one of those franchises that would turn a profit on consoles and they stuck with handhelds this gen. Clearly that's where the money's at in Japan so from a financial perspective 3DS seems to make sense for Persona. Not that another platform wouldn't make sense for different reasons either, I'm just saying I think "it's one of the few franchises that would turn a profit on consoles," is dumb logic.
The fact of the matter is, if Persona can't be bothered to release a console game in 2013, then JRPG players that want something nice looking are fucked everywhere except for Square Enix.
As I've said before, why would anyone purposefully prefer this downgrade
'I can play it on handhelds.' Yeah, there's also a dozen other JRPGs you can play on handhelds.
Hell, might I refer you to Shin Megami Tensei IV.
Yeah, there's no better way to say it. Some people still don't get it. I don't know what to tell them.
There's nothing to "get". People prefer different things, ussually for different valid reasons
you guys are weird
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