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[Karsticles]

86k retail for both systems

26k Vita version, less than 60k for PS3 version via Creamsugar.

Ugh. Goddamn terrible modern gamer taste.

 

[Busaiku]

smt iv ltd > smt iii ltd

Wasn't its 1st month more than Nocturne's LTD?

 

[joedick]

For the people who wonder why Nintendo keeps going back to Mario:

New Super Mario Bros. 2 (406,000 in 2013, 1.85 million total)
Mario Kart 7 (352,000 in 2013, 2.84 million total)
Super Mario 3D Land (265,000 in 2013, 2.86 million total)

 

[B.O.O.M]

Horrible sales all around! it's kinda sad but I'm actually surprised Vita did that much

Wiiu gonna WiiU. Nothing much else to say.

 

[AniHawk]

Yeah. The one advantage the Vita seems to have is a dedicated fanbase, so software sales aren't as godawful as you'd expect considering how poorly the system is selling. The WiiU doesn't appear to have a shot at tackling that problem, at least not when it comes to most 3rd party software.

most third party software, but support for the machine's been awful. lego city and monster hunter have both sold relatively well, and both were the biggest games since the console's launch until pikmin 3. scribblenauts, rayman, and sonic will be the ones to look out for, and that's the userbase that will be built on the wii: family games and kid-friendly titles.

Wasn't its 1st month more than Nocturne's LTD?

heh. yeah. didn't even need to check.

 

[jcm]

NPD has shitted things up so badly that I can't vouch for the accuracy of this year's or last year's numbers, but they should be close enough for some comparisons, anyway.

Year Over Year            
          2013    2012    % Change
360         96     193     -50.26%
PS3         71     141     -49.65%
WIU         31       
WII         33      71     -53.52%
3DS        130     177     -26.55%
NDS          0      99    -100.00%
PSV         25      38     -34.21%
PSP          0       9    -100.00%
            
Family            
MSFT        96     193     -50.26%
SONY        96     188     -48.94%
NINT       194     347     -44.09%
            
HAND       155     323     -52.01%
CONSOLE    231     405     -42.96%
            
Gen over Gen            
Console    2013   2006    % Change
360                204    
PS2                262    
XBX                  9    
GCN                 41    
TOTAL       231    516     -55.23%
            
Handheld   2013   2007    % Change
NDS                383    
PSP                151    
GBA                 70    
Total       155    604     -74.34%

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

WW has been shown to be much, much more than a 10 year old port.

Even Halo CE remake didn't move units, why would WW?

 

[NobleGreenBeast]

The price cut was in effect less than a week, and practically no games of note came to it. Dragon's Crown, but that's niche, and Walking Dead, but that has already been on other platforms forever. I'm surprised it even did ~30k honestly.

So next month vita higher than 30k?

 

[OnFire331]

That's an amazing debut for Tales of Xillia, it debuted on par with Ni no Kuni and hopefully this means we'll get Zestoria too.

 

[mugurumakensei]

smt iv ltd > smt iii ltd

Well I meant SMT IV = X times smt III ltd as it's first months sales were greater than nocturne ltd.

 

[fek]

Curious about how Diva F did.

 

[ascii42]

most third party software, but support for the machine's been awful. lego city and monster hunter have both sold relatively well, and both were the biggest games since the console's launch until pikmin 3. scribblenauts, rayman, and sonic will be the ones to look out for, and that's the userbase that will be built on the wii: family games and kid-friendly titles.

True. Particularly, having Sonic Lost World exclusive is definitely a boon for the WiiU (not counting the 3DS version)

 

[Miles X]

So next month vita higher than 30k?

Full month of price cut, semi big game? Killzone and 5 week month.

If it isn't then it's time to call it a day.

 

[AniHawk]

I didn't say there was a decline in sales, but rather a decline in the chance there will be some PS3 or 3DS-esque turn around. On the sales end, both Wii U and Vita have been steadily selling at a horrible rate. I'm hoping they can turn it around as a Nintendo fan but each month that goes by it becomes more and more clear that this will be a bad situation this generation and it's not just a launch period situation.

oh yeah. it's going to be a long generation for nintendo.

or maybe a short one!

I'm just hoping we get some crazy new games from Nintendo once they realize that sending out similar sequels isn't going to turn around the console (assuming this holiday doesn't change things).

doubtful. they'll take less risks, not more. they took lots of risks with the wii and ds because they were new systems, and later on in their lives because they had the freedom to do so.

 

[ascii42]

So next month vita higher than 30k?

Hopefully, if Killzone has any sort of effect.

 

[Darryl]

Even Halo CE remake didn't move units, why would WW?

well it's more similar to OoT 3D and that game did move units. turned the dying 3DS ship around

 

[MarkusRJR]

Thank you good sir! Relative to the userbase, the splinter cell sku performed relatively just as terribly as the others. Slightly worse than 360, slightly better than ps3.

The problem is that third parties don't care about sales being "relative to the userbase". They care about sales and money made per sku. If one sku isn't going to profitable to port to, they just won't port to it. That's the sort of situation the Wii U is looking at.

Well either way, this Splinter Cell isn't going to be a profitable game no matter the platform.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Even Halo CE remake didn't move units, why would WW?

Halo fans already had the console.

 

[VanWinkle]

So next month vita higher than 30k?

Sure, I would think so. Full month of price cut, KZ Mercenary and Rayman Legends. Not saying it will have good sales by any means, but I'm sure it will do better than it did this month.

 

[MarkusRJR]

doubtful. they'll take less risks, not more. they took lots of risks with the wii and ds because they were new systems, and later on in their lives because they had the freedom to do so.

Yeah, I was just hoping. If their games released over the past 2 years and their future line-up are any sign, they'll be sticking to their guns (Mario, Zelda, DKC, Pokémon) for the foreseeable future.

 

[NullPointer]

Ugh. Goddamn terrible modern gamer taste.

For serious.

 

[Pikma]

Do we know how much has Fire Emblem: Awakening sold worlwide? Is expecting ~1m copies too much?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Expected Dream Team to help the 3DS hardware sales and instead the system is down 20k from July. Looks like the AC bump for it is over, meh.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

gameplay enhancements

new lighting effects

graphical upgrades..(bloom)

it is much more than a port

 

[NobleGreenBeast]

Hopefully, if Killzone has any sort of effect.

Full month of price cut, semi big game? Killzone and 5 week month.

If it isn't then it's time to call it a day.

I forgot about Killzone. Maybe it will see a decent size increase.

 

[Bladenic]

This is from july npd. smt4 65k~70k

NICE! Haven't played it yet, but it's really great to see all these JRPGs selling well this year. 2013 has been a sort of JRPG revival in the West, sales wise (at least it feels like it).

 

[mugurumakensei]

Do we know how much has Fire Emblem: Awakening sold worlwide? Is expecting ~1m copies too much?

Well. NA + Japan = at least 800k so I think it should be safe to say 1m ww is the likely total

 

[StevieP]

The problem is that third parties don't care about sales being "relative to the userbase". They care about sales and money made per sku. If one sku isn't going to profitable to port to, they just won't port to it. That's the sort of situation the Wii U is looking at.

Well either way, this Splinter Cell isn't going to be a profitable game no matter the platform.

No doubt, but I don't think this game will make its money back in general

 

[DaBoss]

NPD has shitted things up so badly that I can't vouch for the accuracy of this year's or last year's numbers, but they should be close enough for some comparisons, anyway.

Year Over Year            
          2013    2012    % Change
360         96     193     -50.26%
PS3         71     141     -49.65%
WIU         31       
WII         33      71     -53.52%
3DS        130     177     -26.55%
NDS          0      99    -100.00%
PSV         25      38     -34.21%
PSP          0       9    -100.00%

Wouldn't PSV be like 30K or something going by what creamsugar posted?

PSV almost outsold than Wii U, try next month please.
Wii U is better than last month.
3DS > 130K

 

[B.O.O.M]

I forgot about Killzone. Maybe it will see a decent size increase.

Is Sony marketing KZ Merc? I mean they definitely should..game looks ace. But I haven't seen any commercials yet

 

[Syphon Filter]

lol who said WW will move units? a rerelease will never do that.

 

[Warm Machine]

Not sure Pikmin 3 will make its budget back.

 

[Coldnoodle]

No doubt, but I don't think this game will make its money back in general

I remember Jade Raymond saying that 5 million would be a successful number.

 

[jmls1121]

I don't think you know the definition of the word port.

 

[StevieP]

It's a remake, not a simple port. Seems to be of similar ambition as ocarina 3d

 

[B.O.O.M]

lol who said WW will move units? a rerelease will never do that.

I have seen plenty of people thinking that actually. They have a bundle too iirc. So it can definitely move units..question is how many units

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Is Sony marketing KZ Merc? I mean they definitely should..game looks ace. But I haven't seen any commercials yet

NOPE

 

[NullPointer]

I remember Jade Raymond saying that 5 million would be a successful number.

This is a joke right?

I can't tell anymore.

 

[StevieP]

I remember Jade Raymond saying that 5 million would be a successful number.

Good luck with that jade...
Only point I was making was that it sold pretty well equally terribly across userbases (ie shame on everyone). It wasnt extremely lopsided in comparison. Decent game, even with some frustrations - and I wasn't even an SC fan prior to picking it up.

 

[Syphon Filter]

I have seen plenty of people thinking that actually. They have a bundle too iirc. So it can definitely move units..question is how many units

Well yea its a bundle, i thought they meant with out it. its just an extra reason to get the system, if it was any game the same thing applies.

 

[Calamari41]

I don't understand what you're getting at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PFuEXqsW8Q

The problem with people's reaction to Wind Waker HD's graphics is that they don't actually remember what the original game looked like. Like, what it actually looked like.

Seriously, set that video to 1080p and go full screen.

 

[Kangi]

Is Sony marketing KZ Merc? I mean they definitely should..game looks ace. But I haven't seen any commercials yet

Sony marketing?

This is Sony we're talking about. If I didn't look up gaming-related things on the internet, I would still not know the Vita exists.

 

[QaaQer]

I don't understand what you're getting at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PFuEXqsW8Q

The problem with people's reaction to Wind Waker HD's graphics is that they don't actually remember what the original game looked like. Like, what it actually looked like.

Doesn't matter, as a $60 game releasing in 2013 it looks incredibly bad. As $29 game, it looks good.

 

[Evenflow]

The problem is that third parties don't care about sales being "relative to the userbase". They care about sales and money made per sku. If one sku isn't going to profitable to port to, they just won't port to it. That's the sort of situation the Wii U is looking at.

Well nobody seems to want to mention it, but Disney Infinity selling 48k or so on Wii U with 16% is pretty good... would suggest the right kind of third party games can sell on it.

 

[ascii42]

The problem with people's reaction to Wind Waker HD's graphics is that they don't actually remember what the original game looked like. Like, what it actually looked like.

Yeah, that's the beauty of the HD re-releases. They look like the original games do in our memories.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

I don't think you know the definition of the word port.

Because games ported between generations tend not to have graphical enhancements do they?

It's a remake, not a simple port. Seems to be of similar ambition as ocarina 3d

His reply was to someone who someone who couldnt see how WWHD is going to help the WiiUs situation. It is an Enhanced port. A remake is something like Halo anniversary and that wasnt a system seller either.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Doesn't matter, as a $60 game releasing in 2013 it looks incredibly bad. As $29 game, it looks good.

It's $50, and that looks bad to you? Because of the price?

 

[StevieP]

Doesn't matter, as a $60 game releasing in 2013 it looks incredibly bad. As $29 game, it looks good.

It's 50 bucks and has more content than many modern games (and more redone than many HD remakes). Yes it carries that price premium because it is zelda and a remake, and not new play control pikmin port, but it is how it is. Update your trolling points.

 

[KillerTravis]

Doesn't matter, as a $60 game releasing in 2013 it looks incredibly bad. As $29 game, it looks good.

What? It looks better than Splinter Cell and Saint's Row.

 

[QaaQer]

Well nobody seems to want to mention it, but Disney Infinity selling 48k or so on Wii U with 16% is pretty good... would suggest the right kind of third party games can sell on it.

I don't think there are many 3rd parties making $100 million dollar games using billion dollar children's IP with a $100 million marketing budget in the pipe unfortunately.