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[alan666]

where are all the WiiU games in the charts ?

no i jest,

how come Nintendo are not releasing the 2DS in Japan, don't Japanese children get eye problems, or do their parents know how to read the instructions correctly ?

shocking sales for the WiiU in their biggest market, also didn't W101 sell 5,000 units last time ?

 

[Zoon]

I hope the disappointing wiiU sales are because of the announced price cut or else it is in a very bad situation.

 

[Lexxism]

Will it reack 100k LTD?

30-40k fw eventually over 100k ltd in a year or so

Wow. That's pretty bad.

 

[Kikujiro]

The WiiU first party titles are not much different from the 3DS ones, buying a 3DS will get you all the Nintendo first party titles and the third parties games as well. Even Smash Bros is coming to the 3DS. For a "casual" consumer a 3DS is enough.

 

[DaBoss]

I thought Phantom Hourglass sold through bargain bins, or was that Spirit Tracks? Talking about the west.

Well, ignoring digital, it did. Most people expected between 1.5-1.8 so clearly the game exceeded expectations.

Why would you ignore digital?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Some good and some nasty surprises will completely fuck up my September predictions. Please... ahem, "improve" my numbers, Road.

where are all the WiiU games in the charts ?

no i jest,

how come Nintendo are not releasing the 2DS in Japan, don't Japanese children get eye problems, or do their parents know how to read the instructions correctly ?

shocking sales for the WiiU in their biggest market, also didn't W101 sell 5,000 units last time ?

Nintendo is releasing the 2DS mostly to cut costs and reach impulse-buy territory with the low price (although you wouldn't know that by looking at the Swiss prices *shakes fist*). They don't really need to do this in Japan and can keep it as a card to play later in the system's life.

 

[Busaiku]

I hope the disappointing wiiU sales are because of the announced price cut or else it is in a very bad situation.

Japan isn't getting a price cut.

 

[schuelma]

Its already been touched on, but does anyone have any sane explanation for why Nintendo would delay the Wii Fit U physical retail release until February 2014? I don't get it-Nintendo needs as much retail presence this December as possible, and right now it looks like the holiday season will see SM3DW, Taiko Drum, and Wii U Party, unless Donkey Kong makes it.

Edit- I would add that Japan is the only reason with no price cut and no Wind Waker bundle. It is odd to see how passive Nintendo seems in Japan right now.

 

[wrowa]

Its already been touched on, but does anyone have any sane explanation for why Nintendo would delay the Wii Fit U physical retail release until February 2014? I don't get it-Nintendo needs as much retail presence this December as possible, and right now it looks like the holiday season will see SM3DW, Taiko Drum, and Wii U Party, unless Donkey Kong makes it.

No one understands Nintendo's Wii U strategy at this point.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I thought Phantom Hourglass sold through bargain bins, or was that Spirit Tracks? Talking about the west.



Why would you ignore digital?

MHP3rd didn't have a digital version at launch iirc. Nevertheless my initial reason is because we don't know how much has been sold through digital.

 

[Principate]

This is why I don't understand the opinion I sometimes see expressed on the forum of "Why release the new system? The old one is still selling."

That's usually the situation you want to release a new system under, because you have a bunch of happy customers instead of a bunch of unhappy customers.

It's also why I think even super popular systems like the 3DS should be replaced in year 5 or 6, even if it's still selling great in Japan, because given how it's currently doing in the West, it's unlikely to hold well (or at all) into years 7 and 8. It's not like Japanese consumers are likely to pass up the successor to a platform and hardware line they love.

Can you imagine if Sony had let the PS3 sit two more years? The PS4 would be completely toast.

I honestly doubt a new system will help that all too much in reinvigorating handheld sales if the 3DS doesn't last it'll simply increases the base price, game price maybe and hardware power which people don't really care too much about in regards to dedicated portables (as psp and Vita have proved), unless the hardware manages to stand out by itself, what is going to be selling it are the same franchises that would push the 3ds as well as the usual software drought.

Basically Nintendo will be making a gamble on the hardware again, unless the Gameboy market remains as a constant. The Vita should stand as warning that simply launching new hardware isn't enough (it was a logical progression of the psp in almost all areas and did horribly)..

 

[Infinite]

MHP3rd didn't have a digital version at launch iirc. Nevertheless my initial reason is because we don't know how much has been sold through digital.

Keep in mind 3rds debut numbers comes in from it being on sale for 5 days. Mon Han 4's numbers only accounts for two days on sale. Soooooo

 

[Glass Rebel]

Its already been touched on, but does anyone have any sane explanation for why Nintendo would delay the Wii Fit U physical retail release until February 2014? I don't get it-Nintendo needs as much retail presence this December as possible, and right now it looks like the holiday season will see SM3DW, Taiko Drum, and Wii U Party, unless Donkey Kong makes it.

Edit- I would add that Japan is the only reason with no price cut and no Wind Waker bundle. It is odd to see how passive Nintendo seems in Japan right now.

Wii Fit U is kind of a strange release and the deal that gets Wii Fit OGs the game for free (if they buy that pedometer thingy) seems weirdly... generous for Nintendo?

 

[Celine]

Get ready for huge disappointment



Will it reack 100k LTD?

yes

 

[Chris1964]

Keep in mind 3rds debut numbers comes in from it being on sale for 5 days. Mon Han 4's numbers only accounts for two days on sale. Soooooo

Since these 5 days keep mentioned all the time MHP3 had a complete sellout at launch and continued having huge supply problems all December (and January). LTD wouldn't change but it could have a bigger debut.

 

[Jocchan]

No one understands Nintendo's Wii U strategy at this point.

Is "strategy" even the right word?

 

[Sakura]

That bad? :s

One would of thought that sales of 70k first week would be achievable no?

I mean damn New Super Luigi U already sold 100k in Japan if one includes Eshop sales + retail

NSLU is like 3900 yen retail and even cheaper on eShop isn't it? Not to mention it is new content. Meanwhile WW is 5900 yen for an HD version of a ten year old game with a few tweaks. I don't see why people would expect it to sell anything significant.

 

[sörine]

I wonder if Wii Sports Club might get a holiday retail release to help fill out Wii U's empty schedule?

 

[DaBoss]

MHP3rd didn't have a digital version at launch iirc. Nevertheless my initial reason is because we don't know how much has been sold through digital.

That's true. We only know about download cards.

And no doubt MHP3rd would have benefited from digital sales, but I guess everything is all circumstantial.

 

[Spiegel]

Since these 5 days keep mentioned all the time MHP3 had a complete sellout at launch and continued having huge supply problems all December (and January). LTD wouldn't change but it could have a bigger debut.

MHP3 also fucked hardware shipments up and that's why both the game and psp went from 30-40k to 100k one week in february.

 

[Silky]

Niiice. JoJo's still in the top 10.

 

[idlewild_]

Edit- I would add that Japan is the only reason with no price cut and no Wind Waker bundle. It is odd to see how passive Nintendo seems in Japan right now.

The yen has weakened a lot since the Wii U launched, it's at about parity with the post-cut US price already. I'm not sure that they don't want to drop the price as much as they can't. No bundle is weird though.

 

[Ratrat]

MHP3 also fucked hardware shipments up and that's why both the game and psp went from 30-40k to 100k one week in february.

Exactly. You literally could not buy a new Psp at that time.

 

[Infinite]

Since these 5 days keep mentioned all the time MHP3 had a complete sellout at launch and continued having huge supply problems all December (and January). LTD wouldn't change but it could have a bigger debut.

Could have.

 

[schuelma]

The yen has weakened a lot since the Wii U launched, it's at about parity with the post-cut US price already. I'm not sure that they don't want to drop the price as much as they can't. No bundle is weird though.

Yeah I'm not that surprised at no price drop, but cannot explain why they wouldn't do a bundle.

 

[Magicpaint]

Yeah I'm not that surprised at no price drop, but cannot explain why they wouldn't do a bundle.

I don't think a bundle would help much considering the demand is so low for WW HD in Japan. The franchise is just far more popular in the west on consoles, so I can see why they didn't bother.

 

[vicissitudes]

MH3 (Wii) -> MHP3 (PSP) -> MHP3 HD (PS3) -> MHP3G (3DS) -> MH3G HD (Wii U)

Filled in the gaps.

Not really much is lost considering the amount of sales it will achieve.

It's also safe to say an HD port will come eventually.

That's what I'm wondering at this point. MHP3 to MHP3 HD port was a port that made sense. Are they really going to port MH4 from the 3DS to the PS3 or PS4? Seems like a stretch. And with how well MH3U on Wii U sold and how well the Wii U is selling, I'm not convinced that they'll port it over to the Wii U either. Basically I'm wondering if MH on consoles is dead at this point.

I would think the bigger lost source of revenue stream would be the move from paid online (MH3) to free online (MH4). However, with Frontier finally moving to PS3, maybe that will pick up some of the slack.

No one cares about Frontier

 

[Nirolak]

I honestly doubt a new system will help that all too much in reinvigorating handheld sales if the 3DS doesn't last it'll simply increases the base price, game price maybe and hardware power which people don't really care too much about in regards to dedicated portables (as psp and Vita have proved), unless the hardware manages to stand out by itself, what is going to be selling it are the same franchises that would push the 3ds as well as the usual software drought.

Basically Nintendo will be making a gamble on the hardware again, unless the Gameboy market remains as a constant. The Vita should stand as warning that simply launching new hardware isn't enough (it was a logical progression of the psp in almost all areas and did horribly)..

The idea of new hardware is that you design it from all perspectives for the modern market.

If they don't do that it's worthless yes.

 

[frankie_baby]

That's what I'm wondering at this point. MHP3 to MHP3 HD port was a port that made sense. Are they really going to port MH4 from the 3DS to the PS3 or PS4? Seems like a stretch. And with how well MH3U on Wii U sold and how well the Wii U is selling, I'm not convinced that they'll port it over to the Wii U either. Basically I'm wondering if MH on consoles is dead at this point.
P

the wii u port of 3g was pretty much free money for Capcom, no reason to think they wont do the same for 4 (or 4g at least)

 

[Principate]

The idea of new hardware is that you design it from all perspectives for the modern market.

If they don't do that it's worthless yes.

That's the idea but the majority of console hardware updates are incremental. It's the common safe method. Hence why that "worthless line" is very blurred. My point is that the normal incremental update won't exactly improve the situation all that much, which means far more risk would need to be taken for greater reward. Said risk can't also be taken lightly (as shown with the wii u).

 

[kubricks]

For people like me who don't get what MH (and their clones) is all about, week like this confuses me LOL

 

[clay_ghost]

For people like me who don't get what MH (and their clones) is all about, week like this confuses me LOL

Next month will be more understandable, everyone get Pokemon right?

 

[frankie_baby]

For people like me who don't get what MH (and their clones) is all about, week like this confuses me LOL

its a game lots of people like so lots of people buy


less confusing?

 

[Road]

Falcom has raised their forecasts because Sen no Kiseki orders from retailers are doing well. They're even gonna give extra dividends to shareholders in celebration.

http://www.falcom.co.jp/kaisya/ir/pdf/130919_01.pdf
http://www.falcom.co.jp/kaisya/ir/pdf/130919_02.pdf

I truly hope this doesn't backfire on them...

 

[Glass Rebel]

Falcom has raised their forecasts because Sen no Kiseki orders from retailers are doing well. They're even gonna give extra dividends to shareholders in celebration.

http://www.falcom.co.jp/kaisya/ir/pdf/130919_01.pdf
http://www.falcom.co.jp/kaisya/ir/pdf/130919_02.pdf

I truly hope this doesn't backfire on them...

This seems atypical of Falcom. I always got the impression that they were fairly reasonable with budgets and expectations. Unless it's really doing well.

 

[Kater]

I don't think a bundle would help much considering the demand is so low for WW HD in Japan. The franchise is just far more popular in the west on consoles, so I can see why they didn't bother.

I believe they are making (or waiting*) more for something like a JRPG or Sim (to be made*) that they can bundle the Wii U with. But I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to japanese cultures so don't take me by my word.
*3rd party, some company like Namco/Konami/etc

Edit: Great number of MH4 sales, deserved I guess? I'm still stuck at the beginning(?) of MH3 and completely lost.

 

[Nirolak]

Square Enix is doing an FFIV style remake of The After Years for iOS/Android.

This implies they're willing to do FFIV style remakes for iOS/Android.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680925

Spoiler

So, how long until FFVI on iOS/Android?

 

[Sandfox]

Square Enix is doing an FFIV style remake of The After Years for iOS/Android.

This implies they're willing to do FFIV style remakes for iOS/Android.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680925

Spoiler

So, how long until FFVI on iOS/Android?

I may buy that when it comes to the US and I hope it leads to FFVI.

 

[Glass Rebel]

It's probably reusing lots of FFIV iOS assets but yeah, not expecting any Final Fantasy handheld remakes.

 

[Nirolak]

And here's Pictlogica: Final Fantasy (the Picross RPG with Jupiter from Picross/TWEWY): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVOkFH-xTOk&feature=youtu.be

Unsure if they're announcing more mobile games today, but they did put out new media for Chaos Rings Sigma (Chaos Rings social game) and Deadman's Cross (Guardian Cross sequel).

 

[nordique]

Please stop killing the Vita, Capcom. End this bullshit and release MonHun for Vita as well, so the portable console industry doesn't sink further and further into a one system monopoly.

And split their userbase?

What's the point? Besides, it's a no-brainer to invest in a 3DS if you love gaming; the system is packed with killer software.

The Vita is amazing tech but a system is only as great at its software ecosystem and Sony didn't really do their part in my eyes.

Nintendo broke a lot of sweat to get the 3DS where it is and it's great to see them reap the rewards despite their Wii U debacle.

 

[VAPitts]

Comgnet comparisons, as of September 18th, 2013

[NDS] Pokémon Diamond / Pearl - 709pt + 536pt = 1245pt
[NDS] Pokémon HeartGold / SoulSilver - 712pt + 584pt = 1296pt
[NDS] Pokémon Black / White - 1190pt + 1058pt = 2348pt
[NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2 - 737pt + 640pt = 1377pt
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y - 687pt + 678pt = 1365pt

[PS3] Musou Orochi 2 - 145pt
[PS3] Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate - 56pt
[PSV] Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate - out of chart

[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki - 46pt + 30pt = 76pt
[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki - 46pt + 36pt (minimum) = 82pt
[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki - 37pt + 27pt = 64pt
[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki - 24pt (last update); other SKU unknown

[3DS] Tales of the Abyss - 75pt
[PS3] Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack - 108pt

[WIIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - nope

so u don't want to put the pt. for WWHD but you put the low points for a PSV game? what kind of logic is that?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Monster Hunter Frontier G for Vita

Takeover starts NOW

 

[pieatorium]

so u don't want to put the pt. for WWHD but you put the low points for a PSV game? what kind of logic is that?

the list only goes to 20, the 20th game is that low point vita game. WWHD not being on the list means it is lower than the vita version of kiseki and is outside the top 20 preorders.

Monster Hunter Frontier G for Vita

Takeover starts NOW

any reason why the vita won't dominate japan? It's got final fantasy and monster hunter!!!!!!!!!!11one

lolol

 

[Bald Cleft]

No one cares about Frontier

This.

 

[L Thammy]

any reason why the vita won't dominate japan? It's got final fantasy and monster hunter!!!!!!!!!!11one

lolol

You joke, but I'm pretty sure there are people outside of this thread that honestly think that.

 

[Aquamarine]

Monster Hunter Frontier G for Vita

Takeover starts NOW

The 6 year old MMORPG that PC users, Xbox 360 users, and soon-to-be PS3 and Wii U users will all have enjoyed....will most definitely ensure the Vita's dominance in 2014.

Not an original, numbered, exclusive title...that would be too easy!

Nope, only the announcement of a saturated, ancient MMO can save the Vita!

 

[Glass Rebel]

Someone said it in the other thread but... it's really hard to tell whether this is good or bad for the Vita. Knowing Capcom they'll just use this as an "excuse" not to release a proper MH on Vita.

 

[pieatorium]

Someone said it in the other thread but... it's really hard to tell whether this is good or bad for the Vita. Knowing Capcom they'll just use this as an "excuse" not to release a proper MH on Vita.

they are porting this thing to anything that can run it, it wont have any bearing on anything other than squeezing the last few drops of blood from a dry stone.

edit: I expect xb1 and ps4 versions by 2015

 

[Lumyst]

Monster Hunter Frontier G for Vita

Takeover starts NOW

Maybe it's one of those late port test games to gauge audience interest and find out how many Vita owners are interested in Monster Hunter. (As a WiiU owner, I know all about late ports and test games )