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The Wonderful 101 |OT| Diplomacy has failed
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Like what? If there is one thing I learned with this game is that if you are doing something that is not working you are probably doing it wrong.
AgentOtaku
Member
Don't be hasty
The game is pretty special but that can't dismiss some genuinely frustrating moments due to design decisions. For me, the biggest culprit is the damn camera and not being to make out what the hell is going on at points.
No one is the same and it's unfair to just throw out a "well, you're doing wrong!"
I was playing a mission last night (3 something) and the camera angle pans out to show this boss powering up his punch, and my team is so tiny on-screen I can't even see where I am supposed to go or what to do before I get one shot. The camera angle is also pretty bad at conveying the area I'm supposed to be able to see.
There are other times where my team is obscured by an object or something in the foreground and I get hit.
I'm using the pro controller though, if that matters.
yup agentotaku, that's probably my biggest gripe (and it gets old quick).
Oh, sorry! It was an honest question. If he/she tells us what is frustrating someone might be able to help with a tip or two.
I was just saying that there are some things people find frustrating but can be really easy as soon as you realise what you have to do. Didn't mean to be rude or anything. Sorry.
kunonabi
Member
well i just finished it on normal and damn that was one hell of a ride. easily my favorite game in a long time. kamiya continues to channel what i love about video games ramp it up to crazy levels. time to get to work on those bottle caps!
shake the left stick left and right. info like that tends to be in the quick help menu.
shake the left stick left and right. info like that tends to be in the quick help menu.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Are people having trouble with the closed-in camera not hitting L?
That basically shows you the entire room you're in.
If you're still getting hit from off-camera even with the zooming out, you should stop letting enemies get off camera. It is a game mechanic that you need to balance all the enemies on screen, not just focus on one.
That basically shows you the entire room you're in.
If you're still getting hit from off-camera even with the zooming out, you should stop letting enemies get off camera. It is a game mechanic that you need to balance all the enemies on screen, not just focus on one.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Is there a place I can see the tutorial tips if I missed them the first time around? I missed how to make two separate unite moves and it's really hindering how well I do. But I cant find anywhere to find the tips in the menu, but I figure I must be overlooking it.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
The game has a lot of audio cues too. You can usually hear a cannon getting ready to fire or something even if it's off-screen.
I do think this is probably Platinum's hardest game on Normal though. It was a good idea to use the continue system they have.
@Busaiku: Wiggle the left analog stick really fast to drop it. Wish you could just click the stick in like Bayo to drop them.
AgentOtaku
Member
princemarth23
Member
The camera certainly isn't perfect, but I've yet to play an action game that is devoid of camera problems. It just seems to come with the territory and I almost don't even notice that issue anymore with these games, unless it gets REALLY bad of course. With that said, I haven't had any real issues with the camera in this game yet, which is surprising to me.
Every time I start a mission, hitting L is the first thing I do.
Makes it so much better when it is zoomed out. Should be default.
Instead of completing the drawing with A, hit X.
On the menu you can see some of the techniques and skills you have and how to utilise them. The one you want doesn't appear, though IIRC. But all you have to to is draw a new symbol and press X instead of A.
Captain Chaos
Member
Just finished the falling statue level. Loving this game. Obviously the game takes inspiration from VJ, I like that hardcore, manic Japanese action game that requires some skill to proceed.
Bit dissapointed that Nintendo didnt ready this, Pikmin 3 and Wii Sports Club for launch to go with Zombie U.
Nintendo with this HD power is fantastic. Come on Nintendo, bring more games, sort out your UI (only thing thats missing is speed) and go balls out online.
Bit dissapointed that Nintendo didnt ready this, Pikmin 3 and Wii Sports Club for launch to go with Zombie U.
Nintendo with this HD power is fantastic. Come on Nintendo, bring more games, sort out your UI (only thing thats missing is speed) and go balls out online.
digita1alchemy
Member
I have no idea if it's good, but I bought it anyway: http://www.amazon.com/The-Wonderful-101-Prima-Official/dp/0307897117
I don't count on this too much anyhow, the grandiose music, effects don't mix well, this game is a brouhaha, hard to find a balance between the two.
On another subject, I remember having the camera glitch on the last bridge battle in 001-A hard, it really is this section of the game in all difficulties that wasn't tested.
If you go to the top operational border the camera will got stuck... you patch me that too!
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Happened to during the
volcano escape
And yes, it happens when you try to draw a wonderline while loading.
For the Uniting Guru bottle cap, what does it mean by "Land 10 types of Unite Morph attacks in a single combo"? I assumed it meant Unite First Rising > Unite Fist Stinger > Unite Gun attack > Unite Gun Rising > Etc., but I'm sure I did more than that in the last fight and I didn't get it.
It's materializing 10 unique morphs during the same combo, so you'll notice it's impossible with the seven main ones... :hint
SporeCrawler
Member
Wow 340k views for such a niche (but awesome) game. neogaf might be the best advertisement this game is ever going to get. (unfortunately)
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
So basically I can only do it in one specific battle if I don't have anyone unlocked.
TDLink
Member
You can also do it in 009-C. It's just harder.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Help!
In the second part of Operation...4 I think? The one you get Wonder White.
After
Also, I'm glad this game is forgiving when it comes to how Continues work. I've died seven times in this mission.
In the second part of Operation...4 I think? The one you get Wonder White.
After
Red and Blue fight, you're controlling Red and there's that gear...uh, how do you turn it? It says to press "Y", but nothing's happening, Red's just grunting
Also, I'm glad this game is forgiving when it comes to how Continues work. I've died seven times in this mission.
I don't know which track I like better. Tables Turn vs. Climatic Battle. For some reason, I didn't expect there to be a "final phase" track for the boss battles in W101. I thought that was going to be just a Bayonetta-thing. Best part of Tables Turn is from 46 seconds to 1:08, by the way. No arguments allowed beyond this point.
echthegreat
Member
Help!
In the second part of Operation...4 I think? The one you get Wonder White.
AfterRed and Blue fight, you're controlling Red and there's that gear...uh, how do you turn it? It says to press "Y", but nothing's happening, Red's just grunting
Also, I'm glad this game is forgiving when it comes to how Continues work. I've died seven times in this mission.
This part can become glitched. If holding Y isn't working, you'll have to restart from the last checkpoint and do the fight over.
That glitch had me stuck for 30 minutes trying to figure out what I was supposed to do.
Hobbestetrician
Member
I had no idea my lack of
skills would come back to bite me in this game. What a sequence.
Punch-Out!!
Mash.
Isn't it just mashing Y like crazy?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
How do you restart from a checkpoint?
And fuck, I hated that fight. Really obnoxious sequence all around, even if it's neat story wise.
If they blink, do you punch the opposite eye's direction?
Just finished the game on normal. I can't believe Kamiya outdid himself after Bayonetta. One thing this game lacks though is the OST. Bayonetta had a much more memorable OST. This is easily my best game of 2013, with MGRR in the second place. Platinum knows how to capture the essence of a good video game, and surprisengly, this time they actually made a game with a good story.
I really hope Nintendo ignores the sales and greenlits a sequel to this game.
echthegreat
Member
Yes, but if you stop midway, the prompt can disappear. At that point, there doesn't seem to be a way to reactivate it.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Well, I did it...I just mashed Y, but, like, it seriously took 30 minutes.
What the fuck?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I hate Wonder-Babe.
Wooo, finished 3-C Pure Platinum'd!
This one was a bastard, the intro alone is rough, dodging all this stuff is really tricky. Thankfully the boss himself is a pushover, felt good to reflect his galaxy spheres right back in his face!
I also just bought a pro controller and my god the analog sticks are SO MUCH better than the gamepad ones. I mean it's to the point where I'm wondering if my gamepad is busted or something. I'm so glad I bought one, I'm playing much better on it and it's much more comfortable anyway. Just wondering if anyone else notices a drastic difference in terms of stick resistance between pro controller and gamepad. I'm a bit worried honestly...
This one was a bastard, the intro alone is rough, dodging all this stuff is really tricky. Thankfully the boss himself is a pushover, felt good to reflect his galaxy spheres right back in his face!
I also just bought a pro controller and my god the analog sticks are SO MUCH better than the gamepad ones. I mean it's to the point where I'm wondering if my gamepad is busted or something. I'm so glad I bought one, I'm playing much better on it and it's much more comfortable anyway. Just wondering if anyone else notices a drastic difference in terms of stick resistance between pro controller and gamepad. I'm a bit worried honestly...
When you smash the drone with the final hammer hit to drive it like a nail into the boss and the 1-DOUBLE-0 blasts out I always lose it. So hype!
That turned out to be the place I was missing, thanks a lot!
I also managed to unlock
Luka and I am one bottlecap away from unlocking Wonder Red (Emeritus) Just need to wreck 3000 things.
kunonabi
Member
Wooo, finished 3-C Pure Platinum'd!
This one was a bastard, the intro alone is rough, dodging all this stuff is really tricky. Thankfully the boss himself is a pushover, felt good to reflect his galaxy spheres right back in his face!
I also just bought a pro controller and my god the analog sticks are SO MUCH better than the gamepad ones. I mean it's to the point where I'm wondering if my gamepad is busted or something. I'm so glad I bought one, I'm playing much better on it and it's much more comfortable anyway. Just wondering if anyone else notices a drastic difference in terms of stick resistance between pro controller and gamepad. I'm a bit worried honestly...
When you smash the drone with the final hammer hit to drive it like a nail into the boss and the 1-DOUBLE-0 blasts out I always lose it. So hype!
pro and gamepad sticks always felt the same to me.
Man, I'm messing around with them right now and pad pro must have atleast 50% more resistance in the sticks. I wish I could try another gamepad to see if mine is messed up but I doubt it, both sticks have the exact same resistance.
Maybe you're just not sensitive to the differences?
Do I need to play Easy and/or Very Easy at any point if I want to get all the Bottle Caps?
Fix that spoiler tag.