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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch

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Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
two 50+ page threads in two days on bad xbox news. shit is wild son. wild.

going to sleep. looking forward to see what news, if any, drops tomorrow.
 

Tristan Tzara

Neo Member
I just want to say thank you, GAF. I've learned so much about so many industry folks over the last 24 hours that I feel MUCH more grounded as we move into this new generation. I honestly feel like this is one of the last places online to glean some legitimate and honest information without having to deal with corporate glad-handing and ulterior-motives.

That's all. Good night sweet princes and princesses, keep on being amazeballs.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
considering this news, i'm surprised there isnt like 30k visitors right now like the other threads garnered. there's only like 8k now.

maybe neogaf will get hit tomorrow.
 

McDougles

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In all honesty, you haven't done shit so I don't know why you are criticizing someone with credibility. Do something first then talk else remain quiet.

Even though I'm on Mort's side, did you REALLY just use the authority fallacy? "Only those who do X can criticise X" is one of the weakest defenses out there. Only game developers can critique/review video games. Only filmmakers can critique films. Only stand up comics know what is considered funny.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
I don't think mods usually ban without any preface or warning, that's all I'm saying. If someone had a problem with it, they would contact me. It's not his job to police the board, just like it isn't mine.

And what is with the relax comment? I am relaxed as hell. Maybe you need to relax and not take this so seriously?

I can tell you by first hand experience they do.
dont ban me! :(
 

qko

Member
I don't agree. I think if people buy the console and it crashes switching between apps and everything you do online is completely fucked... they're going to be mad. People making games for that system think that also.



We all know that the XBone will have a mandatory day one update. What if this day one update fixes all these issues? And no one gets "completely fucked" going online or switching apps? It's not like the PS4 won't be having its own day one update to do things like activate the blu ray/ DVD function.
 

Marc

Member
Damn, I sleep for like 4 hours and miss all this. Haha

Any summaries for the UK GAF'ers getting up? To travel chaos at that.
 

kurbaan

Banned
Oh whats going on in this thread...

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FDC1

Member
considering this news, i'm surprised there isnt like 30k visitors right now like the other threads garnered. there's only like 8k now.

maybe neogaf will get hit tomorrow.

Most Americans are sleeping right now, it will be bigger later...if the topic hasn't been closed yet.
 
From what I remember he didn't "leak" the DRM situation. At the time rumors were swirling from many sites that Sony might be implementing a DRM policy that was similar to Microsoft's.

Never. Not a single credible source ever said this. It was never implemented at any level. The only people discussing it were ones who hoped Sony would implement it to make the Xbox look less bad.
 
I feel like this whole board is turning into crazy people. I wasn't around for the last round of console launches so I'm guessing it was equally hilarious. It's hitting a fevered pitch and it'll be nice to see everything calm significantly over the next few months when people start being able to focus on the games releasing.

I for one do not miss the whole HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray fight that was going on. I just remember the arguments about which platform had better HD movie transfers and that the PS3 was really a value at $600 because it was a cheap Blu-Ray player. I'm just glad there are no movie format wars going on now.
 

Bishop89

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General consensus is that both systems will have OS and Online issues at launch as to be expected

News is that the XB will have significant live problems that may take months to solve

Confirmation of XB live problems from proelite, mortimer, thuway, and liquidmetal off the top of my head

Oh also Matt of course :)

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Thanks for info.

The mp having significant problems is going to be HUGE imo Dont think all the cod/bf/etc.. players will be happy on the xbone.
 

Verendus

Banned
Okay, I got over melodramatic. I trust Mort. I'm just saying, be skeptical. Don't sit there with your mouth open letting them plant the bait. Mort is trustworthy, as is CBOAT, but don't trust anyone. You are famous now, but don't let it go to your head. There's people who may want to use you. Again, I've been watching too much of House of Cards.
This is amazing.

I think most insiders do a bang up job of providing free advertising without such things happening. This place started the NoDRM campaign which was basically free positive press for Sony. Why try those kind of tactics when clearly there is no need to? This thread and all the other negative news surrounding the Xbox One are also good examples.

I want to stand up and clap for all the things GAF has done. Okay that's a lie, but it's the thought that counts.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Just when I think I've got my life in order, this thread comes along.


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Keep up the good GAFing.
 

TheCloser

Banned
Even though I'm on Mort's side, did you REALLY just use the authority fallacy? "Only those who do X can criticise X" is one of the weakest defenses out there. Only game developers can critique/review video games. Only filmmakers can critique films. Only stand up comics know what is considered funny.
Read above. I elaborate on why I said that. It's truly annoying when people don't read the whole thread. How can you possibly have a'll the information needed to make an educated post.
 
Never. Not a single credible source ever said this. It was never implemented at any level. The only people discussing it were ones who hoped Sony would implement it to make the Xbox look less bad.

didn't stop other websites from talking about it though, I believe even Jeff keighley got in on it during a gametrailers show.
 

StevieP

Banned
JUST BE FUCKING CAREFUL. Don't let it go to your fucking head. I was laughing my ass off today listening to Weekend Confirmed while cleaning my apartment while they made jokes and said the CoD 720p thing was no way confirmed. Be careful. You are the no PS4 DRM Twitter guy right? That was amazing. But after that, you broke the first rule. The cardinal rule. Never let yourself become part of the story. You are part of the story now. These leaks they are giving you now? They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts or moral outrage. You are dangerously close to becoming a pawn. You are a GAF celebrity now. Your handle has been posted in national media stories. You may well be validated and rightly so come November, but be careful. They can as easily toss you to the wind or, worse, call in favors. Not now. Maybe not a year from now, hell it might be three years down the road. There's a reason why CBOAT posts in gibberish.

Never let yourself become part of the story. It always ends badly.

This is good advice. Mort should probably have a stiff drink and take a small step back into the bushes, tbh. Personal life always comes first

Lol This shit is turning into A Beautiful Mind now.

When youre passed information, casually, its one thing. When youre used as a mouthpiece, its a completely different thing. Not a positive one. It can lead to... bad things.

Very true. And saying MS can't possibly mess up since they ARE an OS vendor after the well publicized issues they've had recently with say...Vista...Windows 8, Windows Phone OS's until maybe the most recent (and I'd think the Mobile OS segment would be closely related to the console OS space), isn't exactly closing the subject with confidence. :) MS has messed up plenty of operating systems during their time. The XB1 OS setup IS highly complex. Probably one of the only saving graces they have this time around is that their OS setup will have to deal with only ONE, set hardware standard. So they're getting to do an OS like Apple does as far as targets and controlling the hardware completely.

That being said, I'm sure both consoles are going to have SOME nagging bugs and missing features for the first few months. That doesn't mean that getting one day one is "stupid." You'll still be able to play some fantastic games. It's just that there will be some things that need to be fixed and added. This happens with just about every complex OS/hardware system that gets released these days and doesn't necessarily mean that one company or the other simply wasn't ready for the launch. Although..MS does seem genuinely disorganized this time. Still, that could just be poor planning and organization, not the result of having to RUSH anything. Look at Sony as well- they planned for this, seemingly fairly well too, but there's still a day 1 patch coming to put some features in. It's just the realities of product release in this day and age.

Microsoft was more rushed than Sony. Although they had plans in place pretty far back (you've seen some of this paperwork leaked to the media) they were behind when it came to decision making and execution. I don't remember a recent console launch that wasn't rushed with bugs & missing features but I think in this case MS has been more constrained than a typical one.
 

Derpcrawler

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Nope, I'm referring to your condescending attitude. "Honestly, that's not an impressive list." Yes you haven't posted any information because you have no information. When someone who has insider information posts and its verified by matt, that's when you stop talking because there is nothing to discuss. Feel free to question information from questionable sources but not information that has been confirmed through multiple sources and Matt.

But it wasn't verified? All we got is 2 vague posts. I am not saying it's wrong but so far it was lot of hyping the topic when in reality it is kinda expected - buggy software, OS, and network issues.
 
Wow.

Allard, Bach and Moore did well to get out.

Microsoft need atleast one of them back. At the moment nobody in the Xbox brand has credibility anymore. And bringing in the Nokia guy won't change things.
 
This is amazing.

I think most insiders do a bang up job of providing free advertising without such things happening. This place started the NoDRM campaign which was basically free positive press for Sony. Why try those kind of tactics when clearly there is no need to? This thread and all the other negative news surrounding the Xbox One are also good examples.

I want to stand up and clap for all the things GAF has done. Okay that's a lie, but it's the thought that counts.

Agreed, I don't think these conspiracy theories are in the realm of reality whatsoever.
 

Nerokis

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GAF wasn't as populated back then as it is today, so you have a higher signal to noise ratio going on as a result. But yes, it was kinda like this back in threads I read in 05-06. There's a nice thread about the Wiimote reveal, for example, which is somewhat comparable to the threads you see now.


I returned your PM.

Wow. Great read.

I'm going back to playing my DS. I don't have time to read all this. Here's to hoping the world goes bat shit insane and the Revolution becomes # 1. Just to piss off some people.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.
 

p3tran

Banned
i just woke up to this "news"
uhmmm for the last generaton, when i played with my friends, we used to have the 360 open to chat while we were playing ps3.

worstest case scnario in the world? this will be happening again for a little after launch? (even though i think its unexpected, its no big thing)

ok, i think we can survive this...
 

CTLance

Member
To be honest I'm quite OK if the carnival of stupid reaches fever pitch in here as long as it does not bleed into the rest of GAF. It is amusing to lurk in here.

Famousmortimer needs to take a breath of fresh air though, he's taking all of this too seriously. Wouldn't want him to burn out. Ya read me, ya big oaf? Go hug your wifey, take her on a stroll, have a romantic dinner or watch a movie together - whatever floats your boat. You sound seriously stressed out, man. Go, enjoy life... You know where to find us. We ain't going nowhere.
 

TheCloser

Banned
But it wasn't verified? All we got is 2 vague posts. I am not saying it's wrong but so far it was lot of hyping the topic when in reality it is kinda expected - buggy software, OS, and network issues.
Devs verified to mort, thuway chimed in and matt said they were not unfounded.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod

BarrettW

Neo Member
I'm getting an image of people in black suits and sunglasses abducting people after they press the guide button at events "your turn is over"
 
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