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So Target shipped someone an Xbox One already? [Update: console-banned until launch]

antitrop

Member
They'll reverse the ban? Do a 180?

When he can prove that he paid for the console at Target and that it was 100% their shipping error, they will reverse the ban. That's what I'm assuming here, yes.

If they don't... well, they deserve the shitstorm. They'll probably just leave his console banned until launch day.
 

hornetpie

Neo Member
This. Or at least when he went to download the patch. The fact that it happened hours later after MS moved against his Youtube video makes this obvious to me.

i would agree with you guys aside from the fact this is NOT how it worked with the 360

and not because of the millions of users, its just the system.

They probably have numerous checks and balances to go through before they ban a machine. after all, they wouldn't want to do it unnecessarily (despite whats happened here but its a unique situation, which i am not defending)

24/7, people sitting there watching consoles connect? having a laugh
 
I am not sure I see the consistent line of logic between "They have plenty of checks and gateways to make sure no one is banned unfairly" and "Yeah this dude is banned unfairly but it's okay."
 
Wow, MS seemed to really piss off a lot of people here who already hated them in the first place. I think we need to let this play out a bit before condemning anyone. Seriously, wait for some facts to come out, then go to town.
 

jem0208

Member
You understand he just put up an unboxing video that they already took down.

Then the videos being taken down from youtube would have sufficed... a console ban on top of it is crazy.

No they took down his Youtube video citing copyright claims.

Later they Ban his Console.

Unless you are telling me, you can receive a console ban because of your actions on a totally unrelated separate service?

What? That would be stupid!!
What he does with his console (that he paid for) is his decision. If he wants to put it on youtube he can do it. No need for a ban

Then someone should tweet Shu if they will get banned if they post videos early on Youtube, but can the PS4 upload Youtube videos?

His unboxing. When they themselves put out an unboxing video months ago. Yeah, okay.

How do you know this?

How do you know? that sounds even more stupid.


This is according to the Verge:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/9/5083780/xbox-one-early-pre-order-deliveries

However, Microsoft removed the video under a copyright claim and has banned his console as a result. Another gamer who received a console from an online order claims he has talked to Microsoft and the company has "said it’s mine to do with as I please."
 
i would agree with you guys aside from the fact this is NOT how it worked with the 360

and not because of the millions of users, its just the system.

They probably have numerous checks and balances to go through before they ban a machine. after all, they wouldn't want to do it unnecessarily (despite whats happened here but its a unique situation, which i am not defending)

24/7, people sitting there watching consoles connect? having a laugh

Well they have someone sitting there watching YouTube 24/7 apparently. And the banning came soon after. There aren't many XB1s out there to connect right now, I'm sure it wasn't hard for someone to tell which console was his. Put 2 and 2 together.
 

hornetpie

Neo Member
I am not sure I see the consistent line of logic between "They have plenty of checks and gateways to make sure no one is banned unfairly" and "Yeah this dude is banned unfairly but it's okay."

well this is a unique situation as i said. as i floated before its entirely possible the check he was sent to is a 360 one and it thinks its a modified console because its not looking like a proper 360

outrageous? quite possibly but not beyond the realm of possibility given we are 2 weeks out and a whitelist definitely exists.
 
Wow, MS seemed to really piss off a lot of people here who already hated them in the first place. I think we need to let this play out a bit before condemning anyone. Seriously, wait for some facts to come out, then go to town.
Give MS the benefit of the doubt because they gave this guy the benefit of the d... fuck.
 

Derpcrawler

Member
MS didn't ban him because he was using it. They banned him for the youtube stuff.

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Loakum

Banned
This has to be the WORSE kind of PR for Microsoft, at the WORSE time. I'm sorry, but Sony don't pull this kind of crap for early releases. I got my 60gb PS3 3 days before launch, and I didn't get banned. People got their PS Vitas ahead of street date, and they didn't get banned. This is why Microsoft gets so much bad press, because they earn it!
 

ck8215

Member
think about it logically people. the ban has nothing to do with youtube.

its all about the hardware connecting in and it triggering the systems....

if he had posted the xbox one unboxing to youtube and never connected to Live, there would have been a copyright infringement handed out but no ban

they are not related

This and how should microsoft find out his Gamertag and/or the ID of the console, through a youtube video, to ban the console?
 

hornetpie

Neo Member
Well they have someone sitting there watching YouTube 24/7 apparently. And the banning came soon after. There aren't many XB1s out there to connect right now, I'm sure it wasn't hard for someone to tell which console was his. Put 2 and 2 together.

not them specifically. Specialist company hired for lead up to launch to watch youtube. these companies exist purely to do this and are contracted to do it

thats what i reckon MS has done.

my feeling is you guys just want it to be that Microsoft has done this on purpose rather than automated to justify the feeling you have for your PS4 and fuck Microsoft and Xbox. They've had a shocking PR campaign and this just tops it off, you all just want it to be true as opposed to a 'mistake'

i am giving completely imo logical ideas for why this happened based on 360 experience and you guys just want to shoot it and say OH MAN BAD BAD MICROSOFT.

which is kinda of stupid really.


im not defending the action, but it may not be as sinister as it seems
 

Cryolemon

Member
not them specifically. Specialist company hired for lead up to launch to watch youtube. these companies exist purely to do this and are contracted to do it

thats what i reckon MS has done.

my feeling is you guys just want it to be that Microsoft has done this on purpose rather than automated to justify the feeling you have for your PS4 and fuck Microsoft and Xbox. They've had a shocking PR campaign and this just tops it off, you all just want it to be true as opposed to a 'mistake'

i am giving completely imo logical ideas for why this happened based on 360 experience and you guys just want to shoot it and say OH MAN BAD BAD MICROSOFT.

which is kinda of stupid really.

Well if they unban his console either on release day or soon after then it would help their PR.
 
What exactly does a banned console mean, can you still play single player stuff on it? Or is it totally worthless now?

You can't use any feature that requires Live

I don't know if this includes patches, but it does probably include everything behind the Gold wall, DLC, multiplayer, etc.
 

Like I have said before, he would not have been banned if he did not create a spectacle.

Someone ask Yoshida, " what if I post youtube videos, post pics of the UI and other information prior to launch with my leaked console? Would I get banned then? "

The answer to that would be something to see.
 

jond76

Banned

A) It'll probably never ship early so he can say whatever he wants. And

B) That's not what happened here either.

Looks like they blocked access to Live because its not ready. (or broadcasting an unfinished product).

So yeah, dumb tweet.
 

Massa

Member
Like I have said before, he would not have been banned if he did not create a spectacle.

Someone ask Yoshida, " what if I post youtube videos, post pics of the UI and other information prior to launch with my leaked console? Would I get banned then? "

The answer to that would be something to see.

Good lord, you're in deep.
 

hornetpie

Neo Member
Banning him for showing the console on Youtube is honestly fucking worse than banning him for using it early.

if that is the case i 100% agree. i doubt it is

and the latter, yes still bad but probably automated and a huge mistake

still, not defending it
 
Like I have said before, he would not have been banned if he did not create a spectacle.

Someone ask Yoshida, " what if I post youtube videos, post pics of the UI and other information prior to launch with my leaked console? Would I get banned then? "

The answer to that would be something to see.

...probably not? Nothing you're describing is particularly egregious.

We're talking three weeks out, not a month or more before when none of that stuff is ready and showing it in an unfinished state would be bad for marketing.
 

rjinaz

Member
What exactly does a banned console mean, can you still play single player stuff on it? Or is it totally worthless now?

He cannot connect to live but apparently can play games still. This ban may be something new since Xbox One is a new console. But as far as I know, Microsoft does not lift console bans.
 

GameSeeker

Member
Am I understanding this correctly: they banned his console purely because of him turning it on and playing it early due to a Target shipping error? He didn't pirate or do anything else illegal?

If so, Microsoft should fire someone. Talk about corporate stupidity - Microsoft can't do anything correct with Xbox PR, it's a pure comedy of errors.
 

Epcott

Member

hornetpie

Neo Member
Like I have said before, he would not have been banned if he did not create a spectacle.

Someone ask Yoshida, " what if I post youtube videos, post pics of the UI and other information prior to launch with my leaked console? Would I get banned then? "

The answer to that would be something to see.

he would have because it was automated.

imo
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
He cannot connect to live but apparently can play games still. This ban may be something new since Xbox One is a new console. But as far as I know, Microsoft does not lift console bans.
Yup. I highly doubt they're gonna lift this ban at launch.
 
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