They said for optimal performance. If you have good enough upstream and downstream on both ends it should work just fine. Latency will obviously show. But I can still mess around with the menu and die a lot in the game!
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PS4 Remote Play - Two screen multiplayer (NfS: Rivals)
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lol no. From the moment Remote Play appeared 6+ years ago on PS3, it worked both at home and away from home. Outside from home, lag can destroy good gaming experience, but we need to test this with PS4 which has much more streamlined remote play service than PS3.
Peterthumpa
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Good luck with that, Sony explicity says that Remote Play is best used when playing on a LAN. I believe that the amount of connection latency between your home and your work would never make it worth it.
It doesn't require that, but it probably won't work all that reliably over the internet. It's going to work best in an Ethernet (PS4) - WiFi (Vita) or direct connection situation.
JetBlackPanda
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what are you talking about I have done this on Wii U
That's Cross-Play between two versions of the same game. There isn't a NFS game on Vita this year.
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Deleted member 47027
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It will work fine outside of home at short [sub 100km] distances and a nice 802.11n router at the end. 100km is ~15ms max, even with really shitty infrastructure.
Remote play isn't generating two different renders from two different viewports. There will be a resolution cut for each screen, just like how it would be if you were playing it split screen on the same TV.
Khalifa Jayy
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I don't understand why one is playing and the other, seemingly, on a loading screen? Can someone explain the pic to me?
Tripolygon
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They actually did, PS4 can support up to 4 PS Vita local co op
True, perhaps in these situations it is down to the individual developers to patch such support in.
Beautiful.
No, that is 4 exact mirrors. For example playing Rayman or Diablo, every screen shows same gameplay, but each vita control its own character on screen.
Greggy mentioned 2 distinct views for PS4+Vita coop. That is something different.
Of course, i didn't mean that the WiiU can't. I thinkt the guy on twitter asked if it wil be like WiiU (as in render two screens) and he got it wrong and said yeah exactly (thinking just about the remoteplay part)
I don't think the other guy in the picture (the one playing on tv) is on the same game session.
JetBlackPanda
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Nowhere did he confirm this was running off the same console. I think what he meant was one person can be playing the game via remote play and can play multiplayer with someone else online.
Bog standard stuff.
Bog standard stuff.
Ah I see well I hope it works well enough for you to play the game...keep us posted on Friday to tell us how well it goes...
Peterthumpa
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The thing is that the "network distance" between two routers isn't always related to the physical distance between them. The packets in this example could go to the other side of the country only to come back to a nearby location ms later, and that's more than just 15, it all depends on service providers.
TrojanBlade
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I hope devs use this for MP and local coop on all titles... plz!!
crazygambit
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I thought the Vita screen would mirror what the PS4 is displaying on screen, that certainly seems to be the way Knack co-op works. I don't think both players seeing their own different views is something we've seen, but I could be wrong. Sounds pretty awesome though.
plagiarize
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'm pretty surprised if Rivals even has split screen.
JetBlackPanda
Gold Member
it is a little confusing but I think Miller is smart enough to know when someone asks him "is it like the Wii U where one person has the TV and the other has the VITA he knows what they mean"
It sounds like you can have local co-op with one person on the TV and the other person with their own view on the Vita.
this is how it works on Sonic racing and Marvel Lego on Wii U and see no reason why this would not work here.
It sounds like you can have local co-op with one person on the TV and the other person with their own view on the Vita.
this is how it works on Sonic racing and Marvel Lego on Wii U and see no reason why this would not work here.
Tripolygon
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What they said was you can connect up to 4 PS Vita to Ps4. There was no specification whether it had to be the same feed on all 4 or different feeds. Of course it depends on the game, racers need different feed because you are controlling the separate cars while in diablo, the camera follows a main player and you have to keep close to remain in veiw just like little big planet.
What? So what you are trying to say is remote play works with online games. I don't think that's what's going on...but we need clarification.
I think their might be another TV+PS4 setup to the left, can sort of see a console shadow, perhaps it's connected with that.
Also I have hope thanks to gaikai and stuff that remoteplay might not be too bad even outside your home.
plagiarize
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the reason why it might not work here, is that until now we were only ever promised that the Vita could mirror what was on the main screen. the PS4 hardware would have to be capable of rendering and streaming a separate viewport for this to work.
which, you know, you'd think they'd have mentioned.
are people sure this isn't the tablet/smart glass esque thing where the other player is dispatching choppers etc. That will work on Vita too.
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/09/10/7-second-screen-playstation-games/5/
FalsettoVibe
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There's nothing stopping individual devs programming support for such a thing in their own games though.
Split-screen already is rendering the same image 2-4 times, can't see why split-screen games can't support spitting that out across the network to Vitas and Vita TVs.
Could be, of course, we just never knew of that till now, and i think they would have already said this if true.
And you can't see from the picture if they are in the same session (the vita is on a track, the tv one in a menu)
And just to be clear, one player vita and one player tv will 100 % work as long as it is only 1 screen, like we have already seen with Knack. The only question is if it can render two seperate pictures, like required in a racing game.
Of course i hope that it will work with 2 different screens, that would be awesome!
plagiarize
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they can only do this if the PS4 *hardware* supports doing it. at no point before has it ever been suggested it can.
You mean from the OS side? I'm sure the PS4 hardware can handle this. (even if it requires graphical downgrades on certain games, which happens with split-screen anyway).
Tripolygon
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They have a video encoder and decoder in there which can probably do multiple video streams simultaneously so it probably won't be that hard.
FairXchange
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Looks like my Vita is going to get a whole lot more loved with this tight PS4 integration.
JetBlackPanda
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If you look at Gregs twitter someone asks him "wow two players at the same time with thier own screens???"
he responds to other people and does not correct that guy.
I am still on #teamtwoscreensonegame
he responds to other people and does not correct that guy.
I am still on #teamtwoscreensonegame
How the hell are they doing this?? I though remote play literally takes the video output and sends it to the vita? So they can instead send a hidden screen? That's fantastic, especially as I have preordered NFS:Rivals and have a vita. Does the game have normal split screen too?
It does, they only need to change the controls so almost every game i guess?
Cow Goes Moo
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vita's days are looking brighter