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November 2013 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 9

donny2112

Member
What is NPD?: NPD is one of the main retail tracking firms in the U.S., and also about the only one who specifically goes into detail on video games sales. This thread is to predict what the NPD hardware sales will be for the most recent month. NPD months are defined here, from jvm.
What do I win?: Bragging rights. We also keep track of predictions over the year and have an annual contest using "points." Still just bragging rights, but Sales-Agers have fun seeing how well we can do with it. See here for details on the point calculations.

Prediction entries must be in and finalized by 8 p.m. EST on Monday, December 9th. Format use is required if you want your entry counted.

NPD Coverage: November 3-30 (4 weeks, October was 4 weeks)
NPD Release: Thursday, December 12th @ 4 p.m. EST (thread posted ~6:30 p.m. EST)

Format:
Note: PSV will only be counted for unit results and cardinal order bonus. PSV is not included for point results.

[360]
[3DS]
[PS3]
[PS4]
[PSV]
[WIU]
[XB1]

Good/Bad Formatting
Code:
Good              Bad
[PS4] 1000K       [PS4] 1 million (or 1m)
[PS4] 1,000,000   [PS4] 1.000.000
[PS4] 1000000     [PS4] - 1000000


Potential hardware impacting events in November:
PS4 launched @ $400 - Nov. 15 (14 days)
XB1 launched @ $500 - Nov. 22 (7 days)
Black "Friday" - Nov. 28 (3 days)
Various bundles for all systems

October's Results - thanks to various angles
Going with the below from the NPD thread. Assuming the ranges given are good, so if something is drastically wrong, let me know. :)

3DS - 452K
360 - 166K
PS3 - 120K
WIU - 50K
PSV - 25K (< 30K, and it's only used for units, so not too critical to get it as exact)

October 2012 NPD thread
November 2012 NPD thread

NPD Prediction Thread Archive


November Notes:
PS4 sells 1 million in first 24 hours in North America
XB1 sells 1 million in first 24 hours worldwide (Based on 360 sales, probably most in U.S. and U.K. with U.K. selling 150K in first 48 hours)
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
This is it. The month of the months!

Warning: it's better to wait for tomorrow's infos before betting, gentlemen. Monday is when major players discose how BF week went for them.
 
This month is going to be absolutely insane...I'll post predictions later on, but it's going to be a wild ride.

November and December NPD results are critical for the future of the Wii U...Nintendo will be watching them very closely.
 

Road

Member
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[360] 888k
[3DS] 999k
[PS3] 444k
[PS4] 1111k
[PSV] 111k
[WIU] 333k
[XB1] 899k

Preliminary guess before Black Friday PRs are (hopefully) divulged, just to see how wrong I would be without them.
 
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cant wait!
 

antonz

Member
[360] 550k
[3DS] 950k
[PS3] 440k
[PS4] 1100k
[PSV] 110k
[WIU] 300k
[XB1] 750k
Prelims before blackfriday data


Some low Wii U numbers there
 

Drago

Member
[360] 360k
[3DS] -1200k
[PS3] 3k
[PS4] 9999k
[PSV] 25k
[WIU] 12
[XB1] 720p

call me when we get Black Friday PR
 

Izayoi

Banned
People are expecting over 1m XBO in the US alone? What.

I'm not even sure that the PS4 will hit over 1m.
 
People are expecting over 1m XBO in the US alone? What.

I'm not even sure that the PS4 will hit over 1m.

Agreed. Let's say that Microsoft went with a 70:30 NA:pAL split...if Canada is 10% of the NA market, I don't see how Microsoft could have managed >400K consoles sold in Black Friday to push USA November sales firmly over 1 million. I don't even think enough stock exists in the USA for Microsoft to sell-through more than 1 million consoles in the USA yet.
 
Really dont see Xbone doing 1 million even with BF.

[360] 550k
[3DS] 900k
[PS3] 520k
[PS4] 1175k
[PSV] 150k
[WIU] 185k
[XB1] 850k
 

jmcoo7

Banned
[360] 600K
[3DS] 990K
[PS3] 390K
[PS4] 1240K
[PSV] 140K
[WIU] 170K
[XB1] 690K

Never tried this before let's see how close I get :)
 

catmincer

Member
[360] 695K
[3DS] 1020k
[PS3] 370k
[PS4] 1100k
[PSV] 105k
[WIU] 165k
[XB1] 885k

Pulling 360 out my ass but i'm going to assume the $99 bundles sold insanely well.
 

idlewild_

Member
[360] 750k
[3DS] 1200k
[PS3] 500k
[PS4] 1100k
[PSV] 140k
[WIU] 250k
[XB1] 850k


Will be an interesting month for sure.
 

Lumyst

Member
Oh yeah, didn't the Wii Mini also launch in the US this month
(to absolutely no fanfare whatsoever)

In any case, I may as well give it a shot, I've seen people who post thoughtful analyses and logically conclude with certain numbers...and end up in 25th place in the predictions, so I'll just go by "gut feeling."

[360] 800K
[3DS] 900K
[PS3] 700K
[PS4] 1200K
[PSV] 90K
[WIU] 190K
[XB1] 1040K
 
In honor of this historic month, I've compiled a full list of November (Black Friday) performances throughout the decades to compare performances to.

Note: these numbers only represent the console in its prime (1996-present), and don't contain the November that the console launched in (because so many of these consoles have November launches).


November (Black Friday) month comparisons (post-launch year, 1996-present):


Sony:

344K (PS1, November 1996)
860K (PS1, November 1997)
977K (PS1, November 1998)
827K (PS1, November 1999)

909K (PS2, November 2001)
1284K (PS2, November 2002)
837K (PS2, November 2003)
696K (PS2, November 2004)
531K (PS2, November 2005)

466K (PS3, November 2007)
378K (PS3, November 2008)
710K (PS3, November 2009)
530K (PS3, November 2010)
894K (PS3, November 2011)
762K (PS3, November 2012)

Lowest month: 344K (PS1, November 1996)
Highest month: 1284K (PS2, November 2002)


Microsoft:

467K (Xbox, November 2002)
462K (Xbox, November 2003)
708K (Xbox, November 2004)

511K (360, November 2006)
770K (360, November 2007)
836K (360, November 2008)
820K (360, November 2009)
1374K (360, November 2010)
1688K (360, November 2011)
1259K (360, November 2012)

Lowest month: 462K (Xbox, November 2003)
Highest month: 1688K (360, November 2011)


Sega:

96K (Saturn, November 1996)

245K (Dreamcast, November 1999)
192K (Dreamcast, November 2000)
259K (Dreamcast, November 2001)

Lowest month: 92K (Saturn, November 1996)
Highest month: 259K (Dreamcast, November 2001)


Nintendo:

764K (N64, November 1997)
718K (N64, November 1998)
465K (N64, November 1999)
275K (N64, November 2000)

424K (GameCube, November 2002)
751K (GameCube, November 2003)
350K (GameCube, November 2004)
272K (GameCube, November 2005)

981K (Wii, November 2007)
2040K (Wii, November 2008)
1260K (Wii, November 2009)
1270K (Wii, November 2010)
863K (Wii, November 2011)
420K (Wii, November 2012)

Lowest month: 272K (GameCube, November 2005)
Highest month: 2040K (Wii, November 2008)
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
[360] 720K
[3DS] 1100K
[PS3] 410K
[PS4] 1200K
[PSV] 99K
[WIU] 225K
[XB1] 790K
 
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