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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
- Start date
We're about to see what Super Saiyan Panic Mode 2 Nintendo can do. Next E3 is going to be interesting.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Yeah, they are not suffering losses this year (even with all the mess they are experiencing). They will post profits again, but this doesn't imply everything is fine.
Castef
Banned
Yup, but I'm judging the games, not the console itself.
The wiimote is a very good control system, when used properly.
Hell yes. I bought a 32GB Air and I LOVE it!
Christmas sales are going to be glorious.
Funny how many automatically asnwered "Microsoft" in that thread about "Who is in worse shape, Nintendo ro Microsoft".
OR words to that effect.
This sucks though. Nintendo was going ot be the onyl manufacturer making a "traditional" console next gen. I wasn't interested in the Sony and Microsoft streaming boxes they'll be making.
OR words to that effect.
This sucks though. Nintendo was going ot be the onyl manufacturer making a "traditional" console next gen. I wasn't interested in the Sony and Microsoft streaming boxes they'll be making.
gamergirly
Member
770K is down but nowhere as bad as what you're saying. How do we know that PS4 and Xbox One won't suffer the same fate? Is 900,000 a month going to continue?
Wii U is getting blown out of the water a year later but it started with good sales too
Boss Man
Member
Make a cheap ass GamePad bundled into a rebranded the system called the Super Wii 2.
Get their heads out of their asses and develop full-fledged titles for it.
Do okay.
We'll see what they actually do though.
Alex
Member
Your turn next, boys.
Make iwata proud
This context makes me think of that old Ninja Gaiden strip from Penny Arcade
zeopower6
Member
The Vita still has a bit of hope imo since it has yet to release too many higher profile titles. Wii U already had its 3D Mario and if the 3D Zelda/Smash don't help... :/
I gotta laugh at Major Nelson
That guy´s spin on the sales is funny and what an embarrassment for Microsoft to have such a guy on their payroll.
100k X1
1m Ps4
But X1 is the fastest selling console in NA LOL
Logic tells me launch day sales are an accumulation of the prior 5 months of preorder sales. Right?
Now if when even take the high end on the PS4 estimate of 1.6M. The daily avg for the month of Nov. is 106K.
Now if PS4 weren't sold out they would have sold more, but you can't sell what you don't have.
If they can find a better business model that is more appealing in today's age and return to profitability they would exactly be "sunk".
Red Blaster
Member
this is great, i might be able to find a wii u for 30 bucks in a clearance bin in 2015 and play bayonetta 2
that is if the console isn't killed prior to its release
that is if the console isn't killed prior to its release
Wow, these cries for a price drop keep getting more and more ludicrous. Wii U + Wii remote plus for cheaper than an OG 3DS?
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
No, they won't. They're not that dumb. They'll stick it out and learn their lesson. As someone mentioned in a different Nintendo thread, the next generation console from Nintendo will not be a hybrid console. Rather, the next handheld and home console will be designed in parallel with the same architechture, which will greatly reduce the struggles of Nintendo development and provide extreme flexibility between both platforms. They will definitely still continue with the "affordable" hardware, angle.
Thursday War
Banned
DC wasn't completely terrible, especially not compared to GC and Xbox. Sega was just bleeding money so hard that they needed to basically win that generation by a wide margin.
Nintendo has enough money that they can ride the Wii U out and see what happens. Probably launch a new console in 2016 or something.
Spoiler:
Continue with terribad Wii U sales and wait for their next console.
BlazingDarkness
Member
There is nothing even remotely surprising about the order of that last. The way NPD does things now makes it very difficult for a single platform SKU to compete against games that are on five or more platforms. You're not going to see a Halo, Gran Turismo, or Zelda game top the chart in a Q4 (calendar year) month again.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yup.....
-Pokemon X/Y
-Best Zelda released in over 10 years
-Great game lineup
-$99 2DS/$150 3DS XL Black Friday
It should be KILLING it in sales, it should be in "beast mode" at the moment. Instead the sales are flat and they will start going down down down in 2014. I am fine with making a tablet at my main gaming hardware, but I also want dedicated gaming hardware like the 3DS and PS Vita to succeed.
If people doubted that smartphones will cannibalize and shrink portable markets, here is proof positive. Could Nintendo survive with a smaller market? Sure they can, but it is their lifeline at the moment. When you have both markets shrinking, you can't help but be worried about their future.
Basically.
cpp_is_king
Member
Almost as ludicrous as Nintendo fans' hopes that the console will end up surviving.
Maybe if they were actually the same months, but they're years apart.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Everyone celebrating and thinking that the Wii U numbers will force Nintendo to turn around and make what is essentially a clone of the PS4 for 2015 are probably in for a rude awakening.
Nintendo will have to recognize everything that went wrong with the Wii U, sure. But they're probably going to just ride this out like the Gamecube and search for alternative ideas based on what they've learned.
Nintendo will have to recognize everything that went wrong with the Wii U, sure. But they're probably going to just ride this out like the Gamecube and search for alternative ideas based on what they've learned.
Gaming Industry has basically become Hollywood but much worse:
And Need For Speed and WWE had releases as well this year, but they didn't end top ten.
This is the very picture of what I've been thinking for a while: that a huge swath of the console gaming consumer base pretty much only gives a shit about the same five games, no matter how hard all the other games try to imitate them.
Manmademan
Member
reinventing itself into what, though? The market is just about saturated between Sony, Microsoft, What Steam is trying to do with Steam machines, and Apple and cheap android pads.
I understand something that no one sees coming like the wii or the iphone could turn things around, but for every one of those we see, there's a thousand failures that just don't catch on. Banking on that is the longest of long shots- like hoping for consecutive grand slams when you're down by 10 in the bottom of the 9th.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Yep. Wii U Zelda may be a thing that never exists, honestly.
I don't. I have no interest in anything outside of card games on tablets.
I am honestly very interested to see what happens. Nintendo sticking with the status quo is going to make these sales go lower and lower but it's Nintendo, it's not crazy to think their answer to this would be "hmm...MORE MARIO!". I don't even think a new console would help them given their 3rd party problems and now people have sworn off most of their notable 1st party IPs. So it's going to be interesting to see them try and get out of this hole they've spent the last 15 years slowly digging themselves.
Pristine_Condition
Member
I never thought I'd see the day that this scene turns into a gif. Bravo to whoever made this.Pristine_Condition said:
I made it. But honestly, I have no clue what movie or TV show this scene comes from, so I can't take too much credit.
They will not be OK if they stick to thinking like this. Sure, they've got money and IP, but with the apathy towards their hardware only growing and their "sure fire"/"ol' reliable" stalwarts coming in with such pitiful numbers, they'll continue to slowly bleed out if they don't make massive, wide area changes as soon as they possibly can. Who'll care if Nintendo shows up to the party with something worthwhile hardware wise if consumers have finally reached the tipping point where the Nintendo Sway or the Mario/Zelda/Pokemon triumverate doesn't get more than a couple hundred thousand Nintendo fans and harcore gaming types?
The moment their visibility drops, is the moment we might be very seriously looking at a future where Nintendo's presence in gaming diminishes.
metalslimer
Member
Panic mode NIntendo does not exist. People kept spouting that nonsense all year and here we are at the end of 2013 with this disaster and it doesn't look much better going forward
Edit: This is an NPD thread, but the 3DS is also going to be a decent bit down YoY in Japan as well and that had Monster Hunter released. I agree with Nirolak that Nintendo is probably going to start pushing into a new system software development whether it be some new console or handheld by the end of the next year with an announcement in 2015.
Edit: This is an NPD thread, but the 3DS is also going to be a decent bit down YoY in Japan as well and that had Monster Hunter released. I agree with Nirolak that Nintendo is probably going to start pushing into a new system software development whether it be some new console or handheld by the end of the next year with an announcement in 2015.
ChosenPredator
Banned
as long as it goes out with a bang
That is about right basically, they will ride it out for the next 2 or 3 years just like how they rode out the N64 and Gamecube for an entire generation.
I'm not talking about what we don't know about consoles in the future. I'm talking about what we DO know. And what we do know is that despite rolling out major, major guns, the 3DS had a very weak performance after an utterly stellar year of software.
If you look at that and go, "Oh, yes, not worried!" then you are more calm headed than I am. Sirens should be going off at Nintendo. This is the time they need to start planning for the next platform that will probably determine whether or not they remain relevant in the west and that is not an exaggeration.
Exactly. Get that stupid Wii name out of here. It was for a casual audience and that casual audience who buys consoles is DEAD.
JinjoUnchained
Member
Nintendo deserves everything they are getting with the Wii U. They are trying to charge a premium price to a mainstream audience, but not delivering value for that price. The Wii may have had weaker hardware and been built around a gimmick, but it was a compelling gimmick that was supported by software and didn't drive the price out of impulse buy range. If they are going to go forward with the GamePad they need to start delivering games that show why the extra cost is worth it.
Lesson learned: gimmicks and weak specs only work at a low price point. If you are going to charge premium price for a feature, then you need to show why it's worth it.
Lesson learned: gimmicks and weak specs only work at a low price point. If you are going to charge premium price for a feature, then you need to show why it's worth it.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
There's no way investors are gonna allow that....
theprodigy
Member
end of 2015?
I agree. I just feel that people who think that there will be some radical changes at Nintendo are setting themselves up for disappointment. I don't think people actually understand the level of mismanagement at this company.
Publicly traded companies can't do this.