on the plus side every copy is now a collector's edition.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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on the plus side every copy is now a collector's edition.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Ignoring HW sales, getting beaten by Sony on Ghosts and BF4 sales is the most terrifying thing that has happened to MS. This is signaling that the hardcore base is moving to PS4 even in the US.
I feel sorry for the developers that put their hearts and souls into the game and it flops, I guess Sony knew about this and didn't care...
Yeah, there is that.
...sniffle.
I think they cared, they just couldn't do anything about it. It was advertised and bundled. If people don't want a Vita though, you can't sell 'em Vita games.
I hope the digital sales were proportionally high, but they're never going to be high enough to make up for this retail showing.
AdventureRacing
Member
The hardware sales tell us that. The software sales are basically inline with the hardware.
theprodigy
Member
ouch
not really, the attach rates are roughly similar for both and PS4 sold more
Well see next month, its a negligible lead
just enjoy 2014 man. consider it a last hurrah.
Yep, I think 3DS could do a > 1.6m this December so it should be fine (maybe it was expected more sales from 2DS and Pokemon but we'll see how it fares in the next months).
Besides Nintendo is happy with 3DS numbers as far as I know (despite not meeting their forecasts). Wii U on the other hand...
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
AC
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%
Wow thats lopsided as hell, especially if you consider hardware ratio is only 55-45 between the two. I wonder if Watch Dogs will perform similar? Maybe I underestimated the effect of marketing exclusive on a platform.
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%
Wow thats lopsided as hell, especially if you consider hardware ratio is only 55-45 between the two. I wonder if Watch Dogs will perform similar? Maybe I underestimated the effect of marketing exclusive on a platform.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Ugh... you guys wanted to pick on XB1 numbers so bad but because its actually not bad, people are doubling down on shit talking the WiiU. Come on guys... There's still some fight left in Nintendo. Don't know why people wish death on them so hard 
Nightengale
Member
Tearaway had been in development for more than 2 years, before the Vita was even released.
Sony hates this situation more than anyone else, but the alternative was telling MM to completely redesign the game for Ps4.
Chobel
Member
LOL!
I'm fortunate enough to have an environment conducive to remote play. My dream lives on.
To be honest, they could discontinue the device tomorrow and it'd still be my favourite handheld of all time, so I shouldn't grumble. No use dwelling on what could've been.
Version 3.0
Member
That would be Iron Soldier. It was great too, but also just at the time, when 16-bit wasn't cutting it any more and 3D was new and sparkly. Certainly not now.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Fucking Tearaway sales!!
Not like this, not like this
At least Sony put the effort in to make it a reality. Though that'll be the last we ever see of it. Wonder if it'll pass 100k WW.
Not like this, not like this
At least Sony put the effort in to make it a reality. Though that'll be the last we ever see of it. Wonder if it'll pass 100k WW.
Nightengale
Member
Co-marketing definitely works to an extent. That's why companies pay for it.
shinra-bansho
Member
Translating the numbers we have into attach rates:
PS4:
COD: Ghosts >38.5%
BF4 and ACIV are somewhere between here.
Killzone: Shadow Fall ~24%
FIFA, Madden, NBA 2K14 and Need for Speed ~9% or higher.
Knack ~8%
XBO:
COD: Ghosts >42%
Battlefield 4 will be somewhere between here.
Dead Rising 3 ~24%
Forza 5 ~22%
Ryse ~20%
ACIV, Madden and NBA 2K14 will be 11% or higher.
PS4:
COD: Ghosts >38.5%
BF4 and ACIV are somewhere between here.
Killzone: Shadow Fall ~24%
FIFA, Madden, NBA 2K14 and Need for Speed ~9% or higher.
Knack ~8%
XBO:
COD: Ghosts >42%
Battlefield 4 will be somewhere between here.
Dead Rising 3 ~24%
Forza 5 ~22%
Ryse ~20%
ACIV, Madden and NBA 2K14 will be 11% or higher.
Could somebody make a gif with the Spaceballs self destruct scene adding Iwata, Reggie and Miyamoto?
I think it fits the situation
I think it fits the situation
And that's not even taking into account the money spent on exclusive content for both.
Yeesh.
Why not release it as a PSN title?
theprodigy
Member
for reference, December 2012 was 1.2 million, December 2011 was 1.6 million
Nightengale
Member
It's the most pure Vita game that utilises every single hardware feature available.
You're
Version 3.0
Member
It'll be very close, next month. If not, definitely early next year.
If it declines again this year, after everything Nintendo have thrown out there, they are well and truly up shit creek. They'll need to decide which of their two platforms to save.
theprodigy
Member
that's obvious, the one that's not in the grave next to the Vita
Fixed, but it really doesn't tell anything, sales are 55-45 and PS4 versiones were out one more week.
Version 3.0
Member
Me, too!
...well, as soon as they release the Vita TV. I despise portables. Besides, my Vita's memory card is full, and I'm pissed at Sony for not making remote play work both ways.
I don't think it will even work on the Vita TV... It requires every feature of the Vita. Touchpad, both cameras, touch screen, etc. That may sound bad but it actually uses them in very fun ways. There's a demo on the PS Store to see what I mean.
creamsugar
Member
You guys forget about 2ch again, didn't you?
PS4 camera < 130K
PS4 camera < 130K
What else can they throw at that one though? Another Pokemon? How do they reduce the price when they're at $99?
Time to work on a successor, methinks.
Tearaway won't work with Vita TV. Buy it now.
yeah, I'm pretty shocked that a $99 2DS + Pokemon + Zelda wasn't enough to bring 3DS above 1 million this November.
maybe December...
Yeah, they'll have another Pokemon next year. But with 2D Mario, 3D Mario and Kart already out, there's really not a lot of heavy hitters left for the 3DS. 2014 will be a big step down from this year, obviously.
maybe December...
Yeah, they'll have another Pokemon next year. But with 2D Mario, 3D Mario and Kart already out, there's really not a lot of heavy hitters left for the 3DS. 2014 will be a big step down from this year, obviously.
How do you take your coffee? Cream, no sugar please.
1st Course
Member
Mario Party 3DS bombed hard.
For comparison the DS game sold 8m+ as of March 2011.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110426e.pdf#page=6
For comparison the DS game sold 8m+ as of March 2011.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110426e.pdf#page=6
It's doing as well as a handheld can do in this day and age. We will never see another NDS.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
There's a difference between wishing death and seeing it coming a mile away.Ugh... you guys wanted to pick on XB1 numbers so bad but because its actually not bad, people are doubling down on shit talking the WiiU. Come on guys... There's still some fight left in Nintendo. Don't know why people wish death on them so hard
shinra-bansho
Member
The 3DS could have a very good December and match it's 1.6M from 2012 and the handheld market would still be pretty screwed.
The PSP, NDS and PSV will end the year with probably a combined million units or so.
The 3DS is at about 2.74M YTD.
About 7.1M handhelds were sold in 2012 in the US.
The only way for the handheld market to not contract further is for the 3DS to sell something like 3.3M systems in December and that's not happening.
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Checking 2ch, I guess PS3 424K and Wii U 222K are the numbers to go with.
The PSP, NDS and PSV will end the year with probably a combined million units or so.
The 3DS is at about 2.74M YTD.
About 7.1M handhelds were sold in 2012 in the US.
The only way for the handheld market to not contract further is for the 3DS to sell something like 3.3M systems in December and that's not happening.
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Checking 2ch, I guess PS3 424K and Wii U 222K are the numbers to go with.
~2.38M.
Chobel
Member
Not bad.
Fuck this world and fuck SCEA... that confirms that those 20$ sales are because the game has bombed really hard.
I don't even know what to say...
Where was it last year at this time?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Sony do have a lot more room to maneuver that Nintendo. Sony could drop the price of both the Vita and the memory cards, pack in some value adds and now they have a decent back catalogue of games, they can use Plus to make it more appealing.
Nintendo on the other hand have pretty much done everything they could. Price drops aren't helping, their biggest hitters aren't helping, there's simply no appeal in the console and that's directly because of how Nintendo have handled the console over the past year not to mention how they handled the last two years of the Wii.
We are looking at more than 100 million HW lost from the handheld market between generations, right? (worldwide numbers)
NDS + PSP = 230 m. (more or less)
3DS + Vita = 100 m? (optimist number).
Between this and the 90 million casual sales lost from the Wii fad... man, that's an astounding downgrade from last generation :|
nintendo can introduce far steeper price drops than sony can. this year the vita with an 8 gigabyte memory card was $170 at best buy for a week (it's how i got mine). prices are near 3ds levels and it's not doing anything. worse, sony isn't supporting the platform with first-party titles and when they do, don't raise a fuss about them.
both systems are done for.
Vita is cheaper than 3DS (even 2DS) in a lot of places... and it doesn't sell. It's done.