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Is Dragon Quest strictly a Japan-only franchise now or something?

Raw64life

Member
Does seem like we're entering a down period where Square-Enix/Nintendo start pretending that Dragon Quest doesn't exist. Bravely Whatever being picked over it makes me seethe with nerd rage. I'll even buy those shitty mobile ports if it'll get any of the 3DS DQ games over here.
 

antibolo

Banned
Square Enix should start selling Dragon Quest games under the Final Fantasy brand outside Japan. Automatic success, just watch the money pouring in. People will buy anything if it has the Final Fantasy name on it.

You owe me a million dollar for that idea now SE.
 

KiTA

Member
Don't they want DQ to go the mobile route for future installments?

No. Yuji Horii always focuses DQ development on the most popular platform of the day. The DQ iOS/Android games are a fairly desperate cash grab because welp, outside of DQ, Square Enix is hemorrhaging money ("Wada syndrome").

It's most likely that DQ11 will be a 3DS title at this point. Numbers wise, however, we won't see another main line DQ game until 2015-2017 at the earliest.
 

KiTA

Member
Does seem like we're entering a down period where Square-Enix/Nintendo start pretending that Dragon Quest doesn't exist. Bravely Whatever being picked over it makes me seethe with nerd rage. I'll even buy those shitty mobile ports if it'll get any of the 3DS DQ games over here.

You're in luck -- someone hacked up the DQ8 APK file and found US/EU localization stuff already in it.

http://www.woodus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28588

We'll likely be getting the mobile port cash ins, if only to help pay for SE's horrific Wada addiction.
 
Does seem like we're entering a down period where Square-Enix/Nintendo start pretending that Dragon Quest doesn't exist. Bravely Whatever being picked over it makes me seethe with nerd rage. I'll even buy those shitty mobile ports if it'll get any of the 3DS DQ games over here.

Bravely Default could very well be used as a gauge. It's sad and fucked up, but BD seems like an incredible game at least so if that's the arbitrary stipulation to bring VII3DS over, fine.
 

ys45

Member
I hate when they do that , they released the 4,5,6, remake and even the 9 but they won't release the 7 .
Come on !
 
Does seem like we're entering a down period where Square-Enix/Nintendo start pretending that Dragon Quest doesn't exist. Bravely Whatever being picked over it makes me seethe with nerd rage. I'll even buy those shitty mobile ports if it'll get any of the 3DS DQ games over here.

I REALLY love DQ7 and I wanted the remake over here, but it's a game we already played. If the rumors a true and they had to make a choice, they made the right one.
 

Raziel

Member
Square Enix should start selling Dragon Quest games under the Final Fantasy brand outside Japan. Automatic success, just watch the money pouring in. People will buy anything if it has the Final Fantasy name on it.

You owe me a million dollar for that idea now SE.

Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Quest
 

Boogdud

Member
It's very strange since IX did pretty well even in NA didn't it?

All I can figure is:

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turnbuckle

Member
Just remember, Nintendo doesn't care what you want. Official public stance on issues of localization.

The DS IV, V, VI, and IX was a beautiful time for a Dragon Quest fan like me. I'm a lifelong fan of the series and I didn't even buy Joker 2.

That's me exactly. But I bought like 6 or 7 Dragon Quest games in the last generation so I was ready for something else on a newer console.

I can't give a hoot about the mobile versions of the games. I miss the glory days of just assuming we'd be getting ports during the DS dominance era.
 
I REALLY love DQ7 and I wanted the remake over here, but it's a game we already played. If the rumors a true and they had to make a choice, they made the right one.

Man, when Japan got DQVII all I could think was "omg we'll get VII3DS in the west, and then VIII3DS down the line!"

...

Yeah...
 

KiTA

Member
The ending credits to DQ1 for Android/iOS also lists English translators.

http://www.woodus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28493&p=372783

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Project Manager: Brandon Cushenberry
Software Testing Manager: Jerom Barnes ( https://twitter.com/Jerozaemon Hm. )

English Editing: Morgan M Rushton

Localization company: http://www.kajiyaproductions.com

Company was founded by Alex O. Smith, who translated FFT A2, FF12, FFTA, X2, 11, X... Just, wow, a ton of stuff.

Edit: Someone else pointed out that, well:

Guys. Two English names in the credits. They worked with Honeywood on Ni no Kuni. One of 'em's been Plus Alpha's editor. Pretty sure an English version is going to manifest.

http://www.woodus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28493&page=5#entry373092
 
I just want the remake of DQVII, but I'm getting tired of begging. Nintendo should release the 2DS in Japan so I can import one to play that damn remake...or whenever the mobile version hits...whichever happens first.
 

Lindsay

Dot Hacked
This an no Yakuza 5 have been slowly eating me up inside all year ;_;

Regarding DQ VII I feel Braverly Default is the "test" here. If either SE or Nintendo sees solid sales here it would suggest there is a market for JRPGs (don't read into the dismal only sold out but still didn't chart UK performance, look at France they tend to be much stronger for JRPGs)
Bravely Default could very well be used as a gauge. It's sad and fucked up, but BD seems like an incredible game at least so if that's the arbitrary stipulation to bring VII3DS over, fine.
Didn't 3DS pass the rpg test yet? FE:A, Project X Zone, and SMTIV did well as did mainstream stuff like Pokémon XY and the Mario rpgs.

I guess every tests a tests test~
 
Dragons Quest has almost always been japan only.

I am going off the top of my head here but I think between Dragon Warrior NES and Dragon Quest 8 on the PS2 there were no other DQ releases here in the states?

A localized DQ is a very rare thing indeed, if I'm not mistaken.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Dragons Quest has almost always been japan only.

I am going off the top of my head here but I think between Dragon Warrior NES and Dragon Quest 8 on the PS2 there were no other DQ releases here in the states?

A localized DQ is a very rare thing indeed, if I'm not mistaken.

That is so very wrong.
Dragon Quest II, III and IV were localized (as Dragon Warrior).
Dragon Quest VII was localized on the PS1 (also called Dragon Warrior)
We also got the first Dragon Quest Monsters for GBC, along with GBC versions of Dragon Quest I, II, and III.
 

KiTA

Member
Dragons Quest has almost always been japan only.

I am going off the top of my head here but I think between Dragon Warrior NES and Dragon Quest 8 on the PS2 there were no other DQ releases here in the states?

A localized DQ is a very rare thing indeed, if I'm not mistaken.

We've gotten everything up to the following:

Dragon Quest Monster Battle Road Victory (the Wii port of a very successful arcade card game)
Rocket Slime 3 (Slime Mori Mori 3)
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 Professional
Dragon Quest 7 remake
Dragon Quest Monsters 1 Remake
Dragon Quest X

There's also I believe some Roguelikes in there -- one starring Yangus from DQ8 as a kid, I believe, and probably a Torneko one or two.

And presumably Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake, which is due out in a few months in Japan.

It's likely the next title they'll release will be a remake of Dragon Quest Monsters 3: Caravan Heart, or perhaps a new Monsters game. Maybe another Roguelike. We're not due for DQXI for another 3-5 years, unless DQX isn't "counting" as far as development time goes.

There was a huge chunk of time where we didn't get DQ 5 / 6, but the DS remakes were localized not terribly recently -- but at no help from Square Enix US / EU, who supposedly finished the localization then sat on it.
 
That is so very wrong.
Dragon Quest II, III and IV were localized (as Dragon Warrior).
Dragon Quest VII was localized on the PS1 (also called Dragon Warrior)
We also got the first Dragon Quest Monsters for GBC, along with GBC versions of Dragon Quest I, II, and III.

Wow really? Yeah I guess I slept on the DQ franchise for too long back in the day lol.
 

Bladenic

Member
It depends on your definition of "so well." They did better than Xenoblade and Ni no Kuni, which were both considered great successes in the US. Even Joker 2, which "bombed" (due to no marketing at all, the lack of the "2 Professional" expansion pack meaning almost no real online play, et cetera) still outsold those two.

However, if you're a monolithic company like Square Enix, sales have to hit a certain amount just to even bother with, due to their outrageous amounts of overhead.

Unless those DQ games were breaking 500k-1m sales in the US, well, they just wouldn't have been worth doing. And they didn't even come close.

There's also a fan theory based in part on some off the cuff remarks from people in SE US that basically, rather than take the blame for some of the piss poor decisions made during localization (Seth Green, those god awful accents, et cetera), the powers that be at SE US just blamed DQ bombing on, well, Americans just not being smart enough to handle a good JRPG.

Where are you getting your numbers from? I can't see how the DS DQs outsold NnK. Xenoblade I can see.
 
It's a well-made SE game from a series whose last major iteration over here cracked 7-digit sales; you know they're fucking it up and Nintendo will have to do it for them.
 
How so? IX did about as well as VIII did worldwide.

Simple. Consoles are more popular than handhelds. The handheld market has shrunk severely in the West (even in Japan) but the same cannot be said about the console market at least going form what we have now.

Where are you getting your numbers from? I can't see how the DS DQs outsold NnK. Xenoblade I can see.

Dragon Quest 9 outsold NNK but its nothing to shout about since DQ9 had a big marketing campaign behind it as well as being a known franchise. DQ iirc did 1 million and NNk in the west did 650k. However for some reaoson DQ never picked up in the West.
 
There should be a market for them.

Even though the global audiences for MMORPGs might be more successful on the PC, there should be a successful enough of a market for them on the console, as well. I'm pretty sure Final Fantasy XIV for the console should be selling as relatively well in the West as in Japan.

Also, I read on Siliconera that Dragon Quest X is in development for the PC.

Also, Dragon Quest IX sold extremely well. It's one of the best selling Nintendo DS games in Japan and the West alike.
 

FoneBone

Member
DQ7 might still have a chance, but I wouldn't expect any of the spinoff games to get localized for the foreseeable future.
 

KiTA

Member
Also, I read on Siliconera that Dragon Quest X is in development for the PC.

If "in development" you mean "out for the past few months," yes. :)

There are apparently a lot of people on Woodus's board importing it. SE JP is making it as hard as possible - prohibiting US players from connecting without a VPN, for example. I can attest that this was NOT the case with FF11, no idea about FF14. I guess they don't want us dirty barbarians touching their holy online Dragon Quest game or something.

One neat thing is apparently the new Monster Tamer class (which is awesome) has a mechanic where you can bring your pets out in the player housing areas, and they try to mimic your emotes the best they can:

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If "in development" you mean "out for the past few months," yes. :)
Sorry, it's been a long time since I read that. And I hadn't been keeping up with the updates on it, like I ought. Between Final Fantasy XIV, Tera, Blade & Soul, Phantasy Star Online 2, and many others, there's a lot of MMORPGs to keep up with.

This is great news, though. Not so much about the region locking.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
The most depressing part is that Square will throw these iOS versions out in the west with no marketing, they'll quickly get drowned out and bomb, and Square will decide that no one ever wants DQ because anything that doesn't succeed on the holy iOS market isn't wanted by anyone ever.
 
Wat's the best DQ for someone getting into the series?

I personally like how cute and simple DQIX is, but I think most people would say DQVIII is it.

If "in development" you mean "out for the past few months," yes. :)

There are apparently a lot of people on Woodus's board importing it. SE JP is making it as hard as possible - prohibiting US players from connecting without a VPN, for example. I can attest that this was NOT the case with FF11, no idea about FF14. I guess they don't want us dirty barbarians touching their holy online Dragon Quest game or something.

One neat thing is apparently the new Monster Tamer class (which is awesome) has a mechanic where you can bring your pets out in the player housing areas, and they try to mimic your emotes the best they can:

114019200_zpse9e6cbb1.jpg

Oh god that's hilarious. Man, I honestly don't know if I can juggle both FFXIV and DQX (and maintain a semblance of a healthy life) but I'll sure as hell try if it comes over.

Also, fuck, I totally forgot that Yangus spin-off existed! God dammit SE why do you do this to us!? ;__;
 
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Deleted member 22576

Unconfirmed Member
I sure hope not. Discovering Dragon Quest on DS (zenithia triliology and 9) is probably one of the best things to happen to me in this hobby in the last 5 years.
 

Raw64life

Member
Wat's the best DQ for someone getting into the series?

I'd say IV. Not only is it my favorite, but it's also the beginning of the Zenithia trilogy and is readily available on DS. VIII is amazing but I don't know if I'd want to start with it if you plan on playing more than 1. The graphical downgrade of the other DQ games might be too much to swallow.
 
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