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Exclusive Invitation for an Xbox One Alpha Trial [Titanfall]
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SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Wow. How long is a ban for this?
It definitely feels like COD, but on crack. At the same time, I feel like this game is more forgiving. I don't ever find myself feeling like I got cheated. In COD (the way the maps are set up), you can get killed instantly from behind. Especially in Ghosts that has some issues with hit time, it's a game where you expect to die and respawn quickly (twitch fest). Titanfall is hectic and full of action, but I don't find myself dying and respawning over and over, or getting killed out of no where.
I also think the way you can traverse land has drastically changed the dynamic. It's more like Halo, where you can be rewarded for actually running. For getting shot, and taking off and escaping your enemy. COD doesn't really have that element IMO. Then there is the Titan's. I guess you could compare it to the over the top nature of killstreaks. But Titan's feel more like an epic thing then those (because of the struggle and battle with them).
Not sure if this is kosher, but I updated the OP telling people to not post leaked video footage, or they will get banned. If you want me to change that, let me know.
Jack Scofield
Member
Why are mods editing the video out of posts? This isn't the first time people have posted NDA stuff.
EA could have contacted GAF and wanted them removed or something.
justsomeguy
Member
I can only hope/assume it was done due to a genuine potential legal issue - God knows running a board is hard enough, but censorship is bad and is a line that really shouldn't be crossed without a rock solid reason.
(edit: and from what I've seen of Bish, i am sure he has a rock solid reason)
I vaguely remember another incident where gaf was legally told to remove stuff. Or maybe im thinking of SA forums.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
So when do yall think MS will announce the bundle version of this with X1..?
Idk, I'm waiting for this tbh.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
I think closer to Christmas in place of a price drop. No Halo bundle necessary.
That would have been the ME 3 script thing where the entire thread was nuked from existence.
Seeing as this is EA's/MS biggest game of 2014, I could see them doing everything to stifle out leaked footage of this game, at it's an Alpha Test. Alpha tests aren't that common in modern AAA releases, and so they probably don't want people assuming this is close to the final build (with regards to graphic quality, and performance).
I will say, the internet has a tendency to freak out, and things spread quickly like wildfire. Reputations and perceptions can be made quickly just based on photos, and video footage.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Welp, Ill just buy a Xbox One and it seperately if they dont announce anything for march..
Most probably because EA/Respawn/Microsoft contacted GAF to let them know what's up. It's interesting, because we've had countless Alpha's and BETA's in the past, where people have posted impressions, screens, videos and the like even if they may not have been strictly supposed to. EA/Microsoft(?) seems to be really intent on controlling the flow of TitanFall information and coverage with a vice like grip.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
I think it's smart in this case with low-res textures in the alpha.
Darko
Member
read the first post bro.
Hmm should be added to the title I think.
It's not like we haven't seen early alpha footage of a million other games though, many that had big graphical improvements when it actually released. I can see why they're doing it, but it is pretty damn protective I must say.
justsomeguy
Member
OT but I wonder if EA had any jurisdiction / legal basis to stop person A who hasn't signed an NDA from posting a link to Person B's NDA-breaching content. Then again people have been prosecuted for hosting links to illegal content they didn't create... At the end of the day Neogaf can't risk being caught in a legal battle, they're not a megacorp with lots of well paid lawyers.
Always assumed anything under NDA is a no no to post. As someone who was in a few NDA bound things, footage is hunted down and killed more often than you think.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
So close to launch and with resolution-gate ongoing, I don't see it as over-protective at all.
Hmm... I think you're on to something.
Is this true because I've felt this since the reveal. I'm so not interested in this game. Going to be a great game for the Xbox One crowd. I've moved on tho sadly
I don't want to speculate, because we don't have the information to do so (and ultimately, it's a forum issue only staff have to deal with). But I would say, GAF is really good about not censoring, unless it jeopardizes the board (ie. stuff to do with legality). Point is, the perspective should not be that mods are unfairly censoring, but that they are just looking out for what is best for the board. What is best for all of us (since well, we want the board to continue to run without running into legal trouble since we all enjoy it so much).
It is what is. The reality is that this Alpha test required NDA's to be signed, and EA/Respawn was very adamant that participants don't share information of their time playing it (they even specifically ask that you don't write about it). So I think it goes without saying, to expect that certain things that fall under this sort of thing, might have issues attached to it (when it comes to sharing certain things).
Thank you for this post it's made me realise I don't want this game. If your having a bad game you can pretend it's not that bad? Online games were made as competition. I don't get this fake kills thing. To make you feel better? Ultimately it's nothing tho.
You are assuming the AI is going to be like that in the final build. Although I can understand why some would not like the AI/ this system. I will say, they separate the kills out in the scoreboard/leader boards. There is PILOT kills and GRUNT KILLS. Grunt kills only really serve to speed up your Titanfall (they give points). Whereas Pilot kills determine your rank at the end of the match.
So it's still competitive IMO. I think you have to view grunt kills more on a strategic level (like Creeps in a MOBA).
EDIT: Guess I'm wrong. See this below:
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Two batches went out yesterday. Rumor on reddit is that another batch may go out soon. It's reddit, though, so I wouldn't bet on it.
Pilot kills don't necessarily determine your rank.
You sure? Because I could have sworn Pilot kills offered much more points than Grunt kills, and had a much heavier impact on what rank you got by the end of the game. Of course, you get points for doing many things (and that adds up). But I don't think you can be #1 rank for only having grunt kills. And based on my play time, grunts really only serve as you quickening your Titanfall. The big emphasis in playing is getting into your Titan and having massive showdowns with other Titans (and thus, that is where you get the big kills).
If you don't ever get in your Titan, and you only kill grunts on the ground, you basically aren't competing. That's how it's been for me.
I won't hold my breath then. Especially considering the whole event is just lasting the weekend.
FreddieQuell
Member
I don't think he was trying to say that the grunt kills would make a bad game better in the sense of your end of round score. More that they are there so that you don't feel like you're having a bad game psychologically.
shungokusatsu
Member
Is the video still live? If so, would someone be so kind as to PM me the link. Bought an xbone explicitly for this game, so I'm dying with anticipation.
You get more points for pilot kills but you can offset that by having many more grunt kills than the other person. In the other thread, I wrote out all the scores from one match and one guy was ranked higher despite having less pilot kills.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
A lot of positive impressions in this thread. I'm actually convinced that I should buy the Xbox One + TitanFall in March. Hopefully there's a bundle or so with that sweet controller.
points earned... More ways than just kills... Lime say, take a hard point...
An online only game should probably be enjoyable even for people that aren't that good at it.
Marauder Shields
Member
Yeah I like the sound of this. Grunt kills remind me a bit of CS in Dota.
I would have been worried if they had classified grunt and pilot kills in the same category but this is re-assuring.
Interesting. Sorry I missed his point. I don't really know if I agree with this? Like I said, Grunt kills are a key factor in speeding up your Titanfall. I never felt that a bad game was alleviated, because I killed a lot of Grunts. I feel pretty frustrated when I don't get Pilot kills (especially when I get into a Titan, and lose out on fights and don't get pilot kills).
And I've never been ranked high when I got zero Pilot kills. (EDIT: I guess you can still be ranked #1 if you get a bunch of grunt kills and no pilot kills, according to Jarmel. So I stand corrected. It wasn't my experience, and I don't know why anyone would want to only kill grunts, as they offer no challenge. But I was wrong).
Well I guess I'll edit my post, and correct it. It hasn't been my experience, but facts are facts. I'm sorry for getting that wrong. Maybe they'll tweak it, so that Grunt kills don't yield as much (or that they don't impact your rank). Although people are saying the intention of Grunts is to make you feel like you had a great game, even if you did bad.
If that's really their intention (did they actually say that, or are we just speculating based on it as a game design?). *shrugs*
Player 1-[P10][T4][G23] [D5]
Player 2-[P6][T3][G14] [D5]
Player 3-[P5][T3][G13] [D4]
Player 4-[P4][T1][G19] [D7]
Player 5-[P3][T1][G8] [D5]
Player 6-[P3][T0][G4] [D4]
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Player 7-[P9][T4][G15] [D2]
Player 8-[P4][T0][G19] [D5]
Player 9-[P2][T3][G4] [D9]
Player 10-[P1][T2][G9] [D6]
Player 11-[P3][T1][G3] [D7]
Player 12-[P3][T0][G1] [D5]
As you can see on the 2nd team, player kills isn't the only thing that affects rank.
I knew it wasn't the only thing that effected rank, but I thought Pilot kills were weighed so heavily, that Grunt kills would be insignificant in most matches with regards to impacting rank (that in most matches, someone would not be ranked 1st through 3rd, by simply only killing grunts and having zero pilot kills).
justsomeguy
Member
agreed and i didn't intend to imply otherwise - i made a quick edit to my original post to make that more clear, but you'd quoted it before i hit save
In most cases I don't think it matters as the top scorers are probably killing hordes of grunts as well .
justsomeguy
Member
I cant wait to play this game but I have a terrible feeling it'll be just like my cod experience: terrible KD ratio as my terrible spatial awareness and reflexes get hammered by 14 year olds heh... Hopefully there's some kind of ranking so i end up with people as terrible as me...