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[TheUnsunghero26]

Phil Spencer Tweeted this, in regards to Black Tusk.

@XboxP3FieryPhoenix7 We never really "scrap" anything we do, we might hit pause and wait for the right time but we keep all the work.
8:52pm - 31 Jan 14

 

[coolasj19]

Phil Spencer Tweeted this, in regards to Black Tusk.

That means... pretty much nothing? I mean, I would think you would have to scrap it? Opening up old code, evolving ideas. The game won't be the same game as it was going to be, 3 years from now. Then again, the concepts will be. It's not like they would have had much to scrap.

"Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?"
When did this happen?!

Spoiler

I've always read the title of your post. I promise!

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!

Couple a days ago after the nocturnal incident.

 

[famousmortimer]

When someone says yes, and someone says no, and they both hold equal weight, wouldn't it be best to drop it? Which... I think you're already doing? We'll find out sooner rather than later regardless. Dunno what the big deal with bundles is any way... It's not like they're Nintendo handhelds.

If they happened at the same time... sure. My point is i update as I learn. That may make me wrong. If that makes people freak the fuck out that's too bad. I'm not gonna dumb it down for people who overreact. Many times I get news that makes no sense. Instead of assuming you all are morons and shouldn't see it I share it. Some people call my wife a tyranny, others thank me for being open. I *try* to pay more attention to the latter.


Basically I'm not perfect, but I'm also not afraid to fuck up and then correct myself.

 

[state_vector_collapse]

Phil Spencer Tweeted this, in regards to Black Tusk.

I think there have been plenty of ex-Rare employees posting here who have proven that isn't the case at all?

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Lol. Dodd/Mortimer has changed his tune on this issue so many times it's probably best to ignore his opinion on it all-together.

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

 

[famousmortimer]

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

As much as I want to be "fuck you I know all!" I don't. I know people, they tell me things. More often than not those things are true, which is why I've never been banned. But even I, with the info I dug up myself, don't take it as absolute truth. I think this is where people may get hung up on what I or others say. I'm passing along a message. It doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean I believe it. It just means it's info from someone I deem at the time to be trustworthy. Have I been wrong about that? Of course.

I openly admit that if you are in the market to get a next gen console you shouldn't listen just to me. I know that I know some things, and I think I can guess some things... but I'm just one voice. Wanna buy a xbox one? I say yes. Sales thus far are strong. The library is strong. There are also a million in depth reviews on the hardware and games.

As much as I'd like to think i'm the authority I'm just one small voice. The problem is console warriors live and die over every word said. Is that my fault? Maybe. I say no.

 

[PhatSaqs]

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

Good post sir.

 

[Pistolero]

Good post sir.

No it isn't. Famous and cboat and the other insiders who share their info is one of the reasons this forum continues to prosper and draw attention. It is not their fault if people don't have the mental capacities to differentiate between rumors and hard, proven, confirmed facts. But guess what! Most of the rumors coming from those guys turned out to be true, and whenever there is a consensus among trustworthy sources, there is a non negligeable probablity things will pan out the way they were predicted...

 

[Heretic]

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

Nail in the head. Famous seems like the attention whore trying to hold on to the spotlight. One of his tweets posted in one of the threads where he mentioned that they should leak through him gave me that feeling. That and him always bringing up the PS4NoDRM thing. Just my opinion and just an observation. He seems like a really cool dude otherwise.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

No it isn't. Famous and cboat and the other insiders who share their info is one of the reasons this forum continues to prosper and draw attention.

That's really not true, NeoGAF has been drawing attention long before we got ourselves "insiders" spreading rumors. And if you haven't noticed, the attention GAF has been drawing has not always been positive, quite the contrary. Personally, I'm of the opinion that this place would be of higher quality if we kept things that attract immature console warriors at an absolute minimum. Popularity and good reputation are two different things.

 

[coolasj19]

Nail in the head. Famous seems like the attention whore trying to hold on to the spotlight. One of his tweets posted in one of the threads where he mentioned that they should leak through him gave me that feeling. That and him always bringing up the PS4NoDRM thing. Just my opinion and just an observation. He seems like a really cool dude otherwise.

Simple truth here. Everyone likes attention. When you can do something and everyone as much as react. It's a good feeling. I don't think he'd ever deny that, pretty sure he's actually said pretty much that in a podcast. But, yeah.

As much as I'd like to think i'm the authority I'm just one small voice. The problem is console warriors live and die over every word said. Is that my fault? Maybe. I say no.

It really isn't. And a majority of us are guilty of taking rumor as fact. In fact, it's a common thing that happens. The onus of anyone being mad at a leaker for being "wrong" lies in themselves for choosing to accept the information as truth or... I'm missing a word. I'll edit it later.

 

[El_Chino]

FYI, ntknrl at least logged into GAF today: http://neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=412821

Just a couple hours ago, in fact.

Alas a sign of life.

 

[justsomeguy]

As much as I'd like to think i'm the authority I'm just one small voice. The problem is console warriors live and die over every word said. Is that my fault? Maybe. I say no.

Not at all. Just read a couple of your blog posts (in particular the one about the job you just left). If you were any kind of asshole you wouldn't have done that job. Keep sharing the info you get, let the mods and the other board members do their jobs in ensuring appropriate reactions. The info's much appreciated - and fascinating.

good luck with Utah

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Phil Spencer Tweeted this, in regards to Black Tusk.

Pfft, this guy just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707691

All these are on pause are they?

 

[Heretic]

Pfft, this guy just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707691

All these are on pause are they?

Way to open old wounds!

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Way to open old wounds!

Seeing all those cancelled games and prototypes really does hurt, but it also highlights that this guy seems pretty damn comfortable in spinning lies...

 

[Nightengale]

Every company has canned prototypes or ideas that didn't pass concepts.

Spencer's tweet is nothing but PR.

 

[famousmortimer]

Nail in the head. Famous seems like the attention whore trying to hold on to the spotlight. One of his tweets posted in one of the threads where he mentioned that they should leak through him gave me that feeling. That and him always bringing up the PS4NoDRM thing. Just my opinion and just an observation. He seems like a really cool dude otherwise.

I'm definitely an attention whore but I have no idea what you're talking about with the bolded part.

 

[LukasTaves]

Pfft, this guy just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707691

All these are on pause are they?

Actually, there are some examples there that suggest just that they do come back into cancelled concepts.

Banjo Kart and Banjo Kazoomie sounds basically the foundation to Nuts and Bolts.

Fast as Furriest seems to be an prototype for Kinect Sports.

And some sounds like might ended up being done in collaboration with another studio, like SoulCatcher that sounds a lot like what Fable the Journey ended up being.

Also the thread title is a bit misleading, as there are Kinect games cancelled there as well.

 

[Linkified]

Seeing all those cancelled games and prototypes really does hurt, but it also highlights that this guy seems pretty damn comfortable in spinning lies...

Its just like what Disney or Universal Creative do ... they cancel projects and they let the models sit in a room for when the time in right.

Some of those sounded really bad some have evolved into other games, I would assume now that they have new management that they might go back to some of their old IP.

But really Rare needs to be a design studio to collaborate with other studios to make content.

 

[Steverulez]

Seeing all those cancelled games and prototypes really does hurt, but it also highlights that this guy seems pretty damn comfortable in spinning lies...

I've tweeted him the thread (Phil Spencer this is), we'll see if he replies. He's mentioned they're still looking at what Rare are doing after KSR...

Some of them I like: Perfect Dark Core, Sabreman. Wouldn't mind a Banjo karting game (not as some sort of competitor to Mario Kart or anything similar) would make a cool downloadable game I think. That being said, that Kameo stuff looks awful. They should have done a sequel, but they shouldn't have gone realistic at all.

Phil Spencer said they had a "3 day portfolio review" where the studios came in and showed their games, he also mentioned they're hoping to fund more of their own games rather than third parties (specifically asked about Shenmue 3)

 

[jelly]

I would like to see Midtown Madness 4.

You could even sell paint jobs Microsoft!

Please Phil!

Hunter Mode online was great fun.

 

[Kleegamefan]

No it isn't. Famous and cboat and the other insiders who share their info is one of the reasons this forum continues to prosper and draw attention. It is not their fault if people don't have the mental capacities to differentiate between rumors and hard, proven, confirmed facts. But guess what! Most of the rumors coming from those guys turned out to be true, and whenever there is a consensus among trustworthy sources, there is a non negligeable probablity things will pan out the way they were predicted...

Ha ha, I have been posting here since 1998 and let me tell you, GAF has been the center of internet attention for longer than you might believe....

 

[JaggedSac]

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

Yep, even that leak about the 10% gpu usage that was going down to 2% for audio processing by Kinect and the 8% was given by making the video processing optional was incorrect. An ex-MS audio engineer who worked on Kinect stuff for the Bone said that 2% usage of GPU would be way overkill for audio and they didn't even need to use any gpu for audio. So in short, the GPU utilization used by the system OS may be going down as per the rumor, but the details of that were incorrect.

 

[watership]

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As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

Everyone who leaks has an agenda and most would be surprised to learn how many leaks are sanctioned. People seem to want to want to assign some sort of manipulation to these leaks, and that's fine, but what if they're true? The you've just been manipulated by facts.

 

[RiverBed]

"we have new IPs!"
is that really news worthy? every current gen platform has those...
either announce them or ignore.

 

[Derrick01]

No it isn't. Famous and cboat and the other insiders who share their info is one of the reasons this forum continues to prosper and draw attention. It is not their fault if people don't have the mental capacities to differentiate between rumors and hard, proven, confirmed facts. But guess what! Most of the rumors coming from those guys turned out to be true, and whenever there is a consensus among trustworthy sources, there is a non negligeable probablity things will pan out the way they were predicted...

This board was getting attention long before this recent trend of attention whoring "insiders" started. Honestly I wish the mods would start cracking down more on them, too often it seems like they're just throwing stuff at a wall to see what sticks and then the threads have a habit of devolving into soap opera bullshit. That thread a few days ago from this new guy was a perfect example of that. Well over a thousand posts and probably only 20 or 30% of them were talking about his leaks and the rest were talking about his possible teases that he exposed Cboat, was a MS plant and then Thuway and others just had to chime in. I'm pretty much over all of them to be honest. I like it more when Cboat would come in once every few months, say his piece, then not say anything else.

 

[Steverulez]

"we have new IPs!"
is that really news worthy? every current gen platform has those...
either announce them or ignore.

He got asked a question and he answered it. We've been through many times in this thread they have announced them but you also can't expect them to announce games for 2015/16/17 the second they're signed. Not to mention I'm not sure everything tweeted should be given a new thread as "news" anyway

 

[Barrykins]

I would really love some more fresh IPs brought to the table instead of recycled IPs. Maybe I'm just salty because I wasn't a fan of Gears of War so Black Tusk dropping their IP blows.

 

[Heretic]

Everyone who leaks has an agenda and most would be surprised to learn how many leaks are sanctioned. People seem to want to want to assign some sort of manipulation to these leaks, and that's fine, but what if they're true? The you've just been manipulated by facts.

I think you misunderstood him.

 

[RiverBed]

He got asked a question and he answered it. We've been through many times in this thread they have announced them but you also can't expect them to announce games for 2015/16/17 the second they're signed. Not to mention I'm not sure everything tweeted should be given a new thread as "news" anyway

of course not.
personally, I don't like any games to be announced at most 6 months or shorter before they're released.

 

[Chettlar]

Phil Spencer Tweeted this, in regards to Black Tusk.

Interesting. Very interesting. I assume that means the spy game CBOAT ranted about is still a possibility?

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

This. So much this.

 

[derFeef]

I would like to see Midtown Madness 4.

You could even sell paint jobs Microsoft!

Please Phil!

Hunter Mode online was great fun.

I played those games on PC but yeah, they were really great and would love a new one. I just think MS will limit their racing games to Forza now.

 

[cripterion]

No it isn't. Famous and cboat and the other insiders who share their info is one of the reasons this forum continues to prosper and draw attention. It is not their fault if people don't have the mental capacities to differentiate between rumors and hard, proven, confirmed facts. But guess what! Most of the rumors coming from those guys turned out to be true, and whenever there is a consensus among trustworthy sources, there is a non negligeable probablity things will pan out the way they were predicted...

It's definitely not why I browse Neogaf. All this insider stuff brings the worst out of this forum imo.

 

[_hekk05]

It's definitely not why I browse Neogaf. All this insider stuff brings the worst out of this forum imo.

Wut? That leak thread was the most fun I had in DAYS.

Spoiler

Unless my sarcasm meter is broken again.

 

[nib95]

As I've said before, save for CBOAT (who's not infallible either), our insiders are about as reliable as random shit you can read on N4G. It's not a knock against them, that's just the nature of the beast - if you're not a source yourself, you are prone to manipulation so you can't really be trusted. Back in months leading up to the new console reveals, Proelite contacted me to ask whether I worked for Microsoft. I told him the truth, but I could've easily tried to pass myself as a source (or maybe I'm being sneaky now, and I do work for Microsoft!). Mort and others have been pretty upfront about that (although they seem to forget that themselves from time to time), but it keeps surprising me to no end how many people are willing to accept rumors as hard facts as soon as they go along the lines of what they want to believe. Some things have even been around for years, with no proof whatsoever (at least to my knowledge; such as the presumption that Microsoft has the right of first refusal on Bungie's projects), and it sometime makes discussion difficult, because people use those "common knowledge" rumors as arguments.

As for ntkrnl's leaks, I really don't give a shit whether they were controlled or genuine. Why should I care, really? All I care about is whether the things he said are true, and I won't know that for sure until the games have been publicly revealed (or not), and I can finally play them. Until then, there's plenty of confirmed stuff to occupy myself with.

Famous Mortimer has an even better track record than CBOAT actually, or at least did for a while. Secondly, you'd be a fool to ignore these insider claims because of the few times they're wrong, since they're still far more accurate than they're not, overall. In fact, they're often more accurate than Microsoft PR and heads, what with their constant 180's, and people like Greenberg telling us Microsoft will not go back on certain policies, only for them to change the next day. Then you have people like Major Nelson and Albert Penello fluffing up numbers and making mistakes on tech figures, even after consulting their "technical fellows". What does that say about their tech experts? Point I'm making is, in many ways our insiders are actually more reliable than Microsoft PR itself, and that's one other reason why we ought to put stock in to what they have to say.

What I find is that it's generally Microsoft 'enthusiasts' who don't like to read in to what these insiders have to say or try to constantly discredit them, for obvious reasons, as often the leaks aren't the best news and often do Microsoft's image harm, despite all the evidence there is by now to trust in these guys, and the fact that they are or have confirmed sources.

Also, I do find it funny proelite PM'd you to ask if you work for Microsoft, that's quite telling...

 

[Linkified]

Famous Mortimer has an even better track record than CBOAT actually, or at least did for a while. Secondly, you'd be a fool to ignore these insider claims because of the few times they're wrong, since they're still far more accurate than they're not, overall. In fact, they're often more accurate than Microsoft PR and heads, what with their constant 180's, and people like Greenberg telling us Microsoft will not go back on certain policies, only for them to change the next day. Then you have people like Major Nelson and Albert Penello fluffing up numbers and making mistakes on tech figures, even after consulting their "technical fellows". What does that say about their tech experts? Point I'm making is, in many ways our insiders are actually more reliable than Microsoft PR itself, and that's one other reason why we ought to put stock in to what they have to say.

What I find is that it's generally Microsoft 'enthusiasts' who don't like to read in to what these insiders have to say or try to constantly discredit them, for obvious reasons, as often the leaks aren't the best news and often do Microsoft's image harm, despite all the evidence there is by now to trust in these guys, and the fact that they are or have confirmed sources.

Also, I do find it funny proelite PM'd you to ask if you work for Microsoft, that's quite telling...

Personally I would rather not listen to MS folks or insiders and judge the product that actually comes out.

For example, Disney has a Star Wars land that has been all but green lit for WDW, but I would be a fool to book a holiday to WDW in 3 years I won't know if it is open or the quality of the experience.

 

[nib95]

Personally I would rather not listen to MS folks or insiders and judge the product that actually comes out.

For example, Disney has a Star Wars land that has been all but green lit for WDW, but I would be a fool to book a holiday to WDW in 3 years I won't know if it is open or the quality of the experience.

This is a gaming forum. It's for news, discussion, insider titbits, impressions, reviews, sneak peaks, articles, reports and all the rest. Insider claims are all part and parcel of that, and for me personally, a breath of fresh air compared to the usual shovelled PR that's controlled, specific and often dishonest, for me to rely on exclusively anyway. Hell often the insider stuff is great insight on to things we might never otherwise have, even on other things like BoM costings for these consoles, NPD numbers, pre order numbers, sales figures and all the rest.

 

[cripterion]

Wut? That leak thread was the most fun I had in DAYS.

Spoiler

Unless my sarcasm meter is broken again.

No, it's not broken. Different strokes and all.

I come here for the great OTs, learn about new games (like the Durante rpg thread), game deals (Steam thread), hardware discussions (build a pc thread editions), etc... Could care less about that insider bs. I would skim through some of it, but it's not the reason why I come here.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Famous should be in exile right about now.

WHERE'S MAH GODDAMN HAWKEN?????

Nah, in all seriousness, Famous is probably the insider I trust the most. He's been right on almost everything. I'm also partial to ntkrnl, but that's mainly down to his confirmation of CD3 in development.

 

[derFeef]

This is a gaming forum. It's for news, discussion, insider titbits, impressions, reviews, sneak peaks, articles, reports and all the rest. Insider claims are all part and parcel of that, and for me personally, a breath of fresh air compared to the usual shovelled PR that's controlled, specific and often dishonest, for me to rely on exclusively anyway. Hell often the insider stuff is great insight on to things we might never otherwise have, even on other things like BoM costings for these consoles, NPD numbers, pre order numbers, sales figures and all the rest.

I am so glad I care more about games than sales numbers. Not that I imply you do otherwise, mind you.

 

[Maxxan]

I think Mort is awesome. Haters gonna hate, but people who attack your family need to grow up or fuck off.

That being said, I was pretty dissappointed that his name isn't actually Mortimer

Spoiler

and that he isn't really a sackboy

.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

I am so glad I care more about games than sales numbers. Not that I imply you do otherwise, mind you.

To me it's actually a troubling sign how much some people focus on everything. It's almost like some have simply forgotten how to have fun with this great hobby of ours. It's turned into this clash of the titans battle where we somehow have to pick sides. That has always rang true but with social media rising each year it's getting out of hand. It's like we have created communities within communities. The games and how fun they are have almost become a by-product to simply a numbers game. We often chastise the marketing teams for diluting the product with their spin yet here we are glued to every rumor and often running with it. Some even act like they are hopeful the negative rumors come true because deep down they want the product to fail.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

To me it's actually a troubling sign how much some people focus on everything. It's almost like some have simply forgotten how to have fun with this great hobby of ours. It's turned into this clash of the titans battle where we somehow have to pick sides. That has always rang true but with social media rising each year it's getting out of hand. It's like we have created communities within communities. The games and how fun they are have almost become a by-product to simply a numbers game. We often chastise the marketing teams for diluting the product with their spin yet here we are glued to every rumor and often running with it. Some even act like they are hopeful the negative rumors come true because deep down they want the product to fail.

I like this post. People focusing too much makes everything look less "magical", takes away the fun.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I would like to see Midtown Madness 4.

You could even sell paint jobs Microsoft!

Please Phil!

Hunter Mode online was great fun.

A spiritual successor with fresher, next gen elements could be big. You could really evolve the gameplay with today's hardware.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

I like this post. People focusing too much makes everything look less "magical", takes away the fun.

Sadly some people see the constant disruption and being a system warrior as being fun. A lot of times we need to just sit back for a moment and realize how good things really are. You can pick up great games on so many devices now ranging from free all the way up. If we want to focus just on the XBox One they sold over 3 million $500 game consoles in a short span but because the PS4 is doing even better this somehow discredits the success the XBox One is sharing. Why is that, where we are we so enlightened to pick early victories while ridiculing anyone else?

 

[infiniteheteroskdasticity]

Personally I'd like to see them bring Freelancer back. With Star Citizen literally printing money at this point its clear that there is a market for a space combat game. Freelancer was one of the best because it was just arcadey enough to be easy for all players to pick up.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Sadly some people see the constant disruption and being a system warrior as being fun. A lot of times we need to just sit back for a moment and realize how good things really are. You can pick up great games on so many devices now ranging from free all the way up. If we want to focus just on the XBox One they sold over 3 million $500 game consoles in a short span but because the PS4 is doing even better this somehow discredits the success the XBox One is sharing. Why is that, where we are we so enlightened to pick early victories while ridiculing anyone else?

Yeah, I agree with you on everything. Like I said, it's a shame...

 

[famousmortimer]

I agree with taking insiders with a grain of salt. It's also good to find out as much as you can about them. Thuway and I, for instance, use our real names on twitter and are clearly just fans with friends who share info. That also makes us easily manipulated. Cboat/ntkrnl/verendus/etc all seemingly work at companies and don't disclose any personal info. So they may actually know more but their motives are less clear. I'm not saying one is better than the other but I do think it's good to keep this in mind.

Also... this whole concept of attention whore. Does anyone post on this forum or twitter or reddit and not want attention/agreement to with what they are saying? I want that. I want people to like me and trust me. I enjoy that attention. Is that bad?

 

[Linkified]

This is a gaming forum. It's for news, discussion, insider titbits, impressions, reviews, sneak peaks, articles, reports and all the rest. Insider claims are all part and parcel of that, and for me personally, a breath of fresh air compared to the usual shovelled PR that's controlled, specific and often dishonest, for me to rely on exclusively anyway. Hell often the insider stuff is great insight on to things we might never otherwise have, even on other things like BoM costings for these consoles, NPD numbers, pre order numbers, sales figures and all the rest.

Yeah its fun, but I never take any of it seriously. I much prefer to wait till a product has been released and comment on that and judge that product. Maybe it is just me...