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brap

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It's kinda shitty seeing left-wing voices throwing temper tantrums. This website is in dire need of more left and center left views. To keep things balanced. But this...this ain't helping at all.
Business as usual.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
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This response is baffling to me. So, what's the tone that you want to set here, then, exactly? That you want this place to become shitpost central? That it's okay to kneejerk to a defense that punches down in a very personalized manner? Even though one of the rules is to not engage in personal attacks? What happened to wanting newGAF to be a place of civilized discourse? At what point does civilized discourse end? Where does the window for shitposting open?

Your attack against this now former user doesn't "set a tone"; it creates a dissonance. It creates a divide between the rules that you set up and that your mod team enforces vs your own personal behavior. The message that's being relayed is "Well, it's okay when I make fun of someone for being poor, but don't let me or the mod team catch you bringing up someone's post history of defending pedophiles because that's a personal attack."

And, again, no one asked you for politeness or sainthood. All you had to do was post "Done." -- or even say nothing at all -- ban the guy, lock the thread, and move on. You even just said that you deleted and undeleted the thread -- what, just to be petty? And if you really think I have Eating Crackers goggles on, then you're paranoid on top of it. I've never said a damn word to or about you before this thread, so to accuse me of holding some grudge against you just crosses the line into downright silly.

You're acting a fool, and it's just a bad fucking look all around, broheim.

Dramatic admonishment for daring to speak in my own defense on my own website as I've done a thousand times before. Leave the fool to his foolishness, then. Defending yourself within reason (e.g. you aren't disproportionately escalating back) has always been allowed here and always will be, and response to ad hominem is a necessary part of anyone's communication and debate toolbox, especially on the internet where every other person is an angry bag of hot air - with a minor in women's studies - like our OP here. You're creating an arbitrary set of standards (that I can't ever speak in my own defense or NeoGAF's or the other users here for that matter) and then having me fail to meet them to your liking. I don't know what world you're living in, but on mine it's not faux pas to throw a retort in at the occasional internet shitbag's unwarranted personal attacks whether you're a CEO or a politician or a writer or anyone else who deals with this kind of nonsense on the regular.
 
Dramatic admonishment for daring to speak in my own defense on my own website as I've done a thousand times before. Leave the fool to his foolishness, then. Defending yourself within reason (e.g. you aren't disproportionately escalating back) has always been allowed here and always will be, and response to ad hominem is a necessary part of anyone's communication and debate toolbox, especially on the internet where every other person is an angry bag of hot air - with a minor in women's studies - like our OP here. You're creating an arbitrary set of standards (that I can't ever speak in my own defense or NeoGAF's or the other users here for that matter) and then having me fail to meet them to your liking. I don't know what world you're living in, but on mine it's not faux pas to throw a retort in at the occasional internet shitbag's unwarranted personal attacks whether you're a CEO or a politician or a writer or anyone else who deals with this kind of nonsense on the regular.

Wow. If asking you to adhere to your own ruleset is "arbitrary" to you, then that's a statement on you, not me.

The statement is a very disappointing one, by the way.
 

God Enel

Member
We're all so serious and professional now. It's a sad state of affairs in many cases someone is always somehow offended.

My take on this thread? Guy has neither a major in history nor in women's studies at least from his response. I think people with an academic degree would respond in a more... mature way?

My advice? Don't take internet shit so seriously and laugh it off.

Edit: I'm pro abortion too. Kill 'em all.
 
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Gun Animal

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From what I saw he was arguing pro-abortion and snapped from arguing those against it.

I’m pro-abortion too, yay baby slaying.

personally i am against murdering babies (one of the few cases where i take an anti-murder approach) but i respect your opinion!

if only everyone was apathetic/nihilistic enough to agree to disagree on murdering babies, we'd achieve world peace in a day.
 

Kadayi

Banned
It's kinda shitty seeing left-wing voices throwing temper tantrums. This website is in dire need of more left and center left views. To keep things balanced. But this...this ain't helping at all.

The thing is, most of active posters here are left wing (hunt down the political Spectrum thread), we are just moderate left wing as opposed to Authoritarian.
 

Dunki

Member
Blindly follow? Grow up? I have my undergrad in history with a focus on women's studies. I don't blindly follow, it's called I read academic journals and did research papers for 4 years you dumbass.
Ok now it makes sense that you are like you are.

The theoretical backbone of women’s studies is grounded in three main conjectures: that of the patriarchy, intersectional oppression, and social constructionism.

None of these contentions can be proven or falsified. Yet, as a student, good grades are contingent on agreeing with them. So what do they actually represent?

No theory is more fundamental to academic feminism than the theory of the patriarchy. Quite simply — and perhaps too simply — patriarchy is the theory that there is a regime of institutionalized male control over women.

Male control, and thus, its logical consequence — female oppression — is the foundational theory my classes were structured on.

What I Learned In My Women’s Studies Classes

So yes you mostly do follow blindly an ideology. So even if you will not read it anymore good luck in all your life and maybe just maybe try to get rid of your blind following of an toxic and in my opinion also dangerous ideology and learn to think foryourself.
 
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Rim

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Your mistake OP was caring what some of this people say.
Yeah when I see people defending nazis and that they being victims of discrimination for being straight white guys, it really makes my eyes roll. But you see this type of stupidity all over the internet, and not just here.
 
Your mistake OP was caring what some of this people say.
Yeah when I see people defending nazis and that they being victims of discrimination for being straight white guys, it really makes my eyes roll. But you see this type of stupidity all over the internet, and not just here.


Discrimination against white does exist tho.
 

Rim

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Discrimination against white does exist tho.
Really?
Do share all the times that you were victim of racism and discrimination for being a white straight man. Please share with us, all those struggles you go through life, all the looks you get.

I'm white and straight myself, but I never experienced that. I guess I'm just lucky.
 
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Dunki

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Really?
Do share all the times that you were victim of racism and discrimination for being a white straight man. Please share with us, all those struggles you go through life, all the looks you get.

I'm white and straight myself, but I never experienced that. I guess I'm just lucky.
I think i told the story a few times already.

In was in school in a class with only 5 Germans rest were mostly turks. And we 5 were treated like shit because we were German. At one time I made the big mistake to go out before them and then some asshole pressed me against a wall and put a knife on my throat telling me to never do this again.

Racism exist everywhere and it does not ignore a race. Look how fucking racist this Toronto BLM leader is talking about how superior Black people are based on their DNA and shit. And no this is also not some stupid reverse racism. Racism is always racism
 
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Really?
Do share all the times that you were victim of racism and discrimination for being a white straight man. Please share with us, all those struggles you go through life, all the looks you get.

I'm white and straight myself, but I never experienced that. I guess I'm just lucky.

I've been harassed in middle school for being the only white in a class full of algerians/turks. "Sale francais" or "Sale blanc" was their main insults.

Some of them wanted to kick my ass, luckily it never happened. We were even friends at some point !
 

Rim

Member
I think i told the story a few times already.

In was in school in a class with only 5 Germans rest were mostly turks. And we 5 were treated like shit because we were German. At one time I made the big mistake to go out before them and then some asshole pressed me against a wall and put a knife on my throat telling me to never do this again.

Racism exist everywhere and it does not ignore a race. Look how fucking racist this Toronto BLM leader is talking about how superior Black people are based on their DNA and shit. And no this is also not some stupid reverse racism. Racism is always racism
I've been harassed in middle school for being the only white in a class full of algerians/turks. "Sale francais" or "Sale blanc" was their main insults.

Some of them wanted to kick my ass, luckily it never happened. We were even friends at some point !
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had
 

Dunki

Member
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had
Really? This is your excuse for me getting threaten to death because I walked out earlier then them? I have never treated any Turk or other people badly based on their race. So I have to endure blatant racism because other people I do not know may were or maybe even were not racist to them? And even after that I do not treat Turks or anyone else differently. I do this from person to person differently.

This is just incredibly and thank you for your input......

PS: My skincolor never gave me a fucking edge in Life so maybe it is time to get your high morality head out of your ass....

People like you are the reason that Political groups like the AFD in my country are raising more and more in Power. People like you are the reason why again the extreme right won in the Netherland this week. It is people like you who make liberals moving over to a more "conservative" side. Seriously stop fucking ruining our world.
 
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brap

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Really?
Do share all the times that you were victim of racism and discrimination for being a white straight man. Please share with us, all those struggles you go through life, all the looks you get.

I'm white and straight myself, but I never experienced that. I guess I'm just lucky.
I'm white and grew up in the 'hood'. Got plenty of shit for being one of the few white people there.

I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had
You got that right, chief. Let non-whites do whatever they please. Us dirty whites are all pieces of shit. Who cares if I was at the same income level as everybody else. I deserved it just for being white.
 
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had

Second class citizens ? Some of them had a bigger and nicer house than mine . It took place in a quiet little town, not in some shitty suburb of Paris, in which case yeah I agree their anger towards me would have been a little more....legit ?

And I'm not playing the victim card. If anything I'm grateful. I was weak at that time. It made me stronger.
 

Papa

Banned
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had

I’m glad that this is all documented on the internet so that in 10-20 years we can figure out how so many people were infected with this mind virus.
 
You know what always tickles me pickle? I remember back around 2004-2005 that a girl I fucking hated in high school got her degree in women's studies. Bitch was working at a McDonalds. I made more money than her as a high school dropout selling on ebay with knowledge of video games and how to work people and negotiation. I had no debt. Now, I have debt due to being injured and being unable to do what I once did. Even though I'm majoring in liberal studies, I damn well know to do something useful with it. Women's studies is an excercise in unemployment, or underemployment depending on how how socially acceptable one is.
 

Corrik

Member
While I agree with the worthless degree jab and I also agree with not being PC, I also was a bit taken aback by Evilore's response. It seemed over the line to make that response to a person that I feel is likely banned already at that point. It didn't seem necessary.

I am also of the mentality of that if you can dish it, you should be able to take it. Thus, I would have liked to have seen the person able to defend or counterattack said statement. I would have liked to see you either ban the person or choose to respond with words before banning. Not ban then attack. That said, maybe it didn't play out that way, and I get he attacked you first. Just a bit of shock factor in regards to that.

That said, I guess the tone has been set here that anyone who reads a few posts they do not like will just go off the deep end and quit the forum, due to what happened previously.
 

Corrik

Member
We're all so serious and professional now. It's a sad state of affairs in many cases someone is always somehow offended.

My take on this thread? Guy has neither a major in history nor in women's studies at least from his response. I think people with an academic degree would respond in a more... mature way?

My advice? Don't take internet shit so seriously and laugh it off.

Edit: I'm pro abortion too. Kill 'em all.
Just want to say that edit comment is kind of sick. I get it is a joke, but it is a tad disturbing of one. = /
 

Relativ9

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Aah, after a bit of a hiatus I come back to Gaf and see this :) Stay classy GAF. Honestly, it reads like a joke post, especially the " I have my undergrad in history with a focus on women's studies." part.

Why can't all these people who don't like it here anymore just leave? Without account-suicide? It seems like an incredibly petulant and narcissistic way to leave, it's like sitting in a library and loudly yelling "This place doesn't have the book I like and not nearly as good coffee as Starbucks, so I'm leaving and you all suck". Dude, no one knows you, no one cares, and instead of calling attention to how (apparently) terrible GAF is now, you're just calling attention to how much better off GAF will be without the likes of you here.


My take on this thread? Guy has neither a major in history nor in women's studies at least from his response. I think people with an academic degree would respond in a more... mature way?

I'd say they'd be more likely to respond in a more eloquent and grammatically correct way, but there's no guarantee of maturity. Some of the most infantile, vindictive and rash people I know are PhD's, you have to remember that while these people have developed their academic sides to the max, this has often come at the cost of life experiences that develop their social and personal sides. Of course I also know people who have managed balance and do both, but it's not a sure thing.
 
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TTOOLL

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We know you are reading this thread MazeHaze, how can you sleep at night being this whiny little bitch you are? Leave your room, get a life, see the sun, see real people, stop being a drama queen in an internet forum. No one cares if you are posting here or not.
 

Corrik

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As someone with a history degree, I highly doubt someone wrote research papers for 4 years.

I dual-majored in History and Secondary Education of Social Studies. I wrote 2 research papers over 4 years.

Usually as History major you try to use primary sources as your sources whenever possible to draw your own conclusions based on what occured. While reading academic journals is fine, if you are using them as the basis of your research papers then you are likely just regurgitating someone else's opinions on matters as if they are your own.
 
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DS_Joost

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We're all so serious and professional now. It's a sad state of affairs in many cases someone is always somehow offended.

My take on this thread? Guy has neither a major in history nor in women's studies at least from his response. I think people with an academic degree would respond in a more... mature way?

My advice? Don't take internet shit so seriously and laugh it off.

Edit: I'm pro abortion too. Kill 'em all.

To be honest, maturity does not lie in having a major any more. One of the big problems facing our generation is that anyone anywhere can have a degree. On one hand this is a good thing, levels the field and all that. On the other hand... well let's just say that having a degree is not so much an indication of intelligence or maturity anymore. I know many people with university majors and boy are some of them some of the biggest, narrow minded dumbasses on the planet.
 

llien

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I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?

Turks and Arabs are technically white.
US race approach doesn't work that well outside of US.
 
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?

Yeah, there's always (or must always be) an excuse. A white guy is racist, he's called (rightfully so) a piece of shit. Another race is racist, poor guys, must be because of their social environment.
 

Dunki

Member
Turks and Arabs are technically white.
US race approach doesn't work that well outside of US.
Also let us not forget how the Ottoman empire did conquer more than half of Europe. They were never in an oppressed role to begin with. Their gov deny Armenian genocide and it now tries it again with the Kurds.

And this said it is also true that Turks have huge troubles to integrate into Germany. I think i read a report once on Die Welt that they are the worst integrated Nation here. But I really doubt that is because of racism against Turks. Now they even fight their political conflicts with the Kurds here....

Also if anyone is anywhere near hitler inn terms of ideology, insanity etc. Its right now Erdogan.
 
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highrider

Banned
And you had the opportunity to disagree with every single one of them and shut them down with logic, but you went out like a petulant child. Cool.

Pretty much. These ban me posts are also incredibly mean spirited, like a child lashing out for some perceived slight. Adios dude, you offer nothing to a discussion board.
 
I would trust that EvilLore will ban people on the far right of the spectrum that border discrimation and racism as well as he did the far lefties. Not interested in seeing the _donald show up here.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Really?
Do share all the times that you were victim of racism and discrimination for being a white straight man. Please share with us, all those struggles you go through life, all the looks you get.

I'm white and straight myself, but I never experienced that. I guess I'm just lucky.
Denying racism exists in any capacity is incredibly dumb man and in such a mocking tone...just, shame on you.

You do not come across as intelligent or enlightened in any way, but simply ignorant.


I would trust that EvilLore will ban people on the far right of the spectrum that border discrimation and racism as well as he did the far lefties. Not interested in seeing the _donald show up here.
Congratulations on waking up from your coma. Let me fill you in on GAF of the last 5-6 years...
 
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Gotta say, this was at least one of the more entertaining "ban me" posts I've seen. Sorry to see you go, dude. But I completely understand the frustration and the degree to which you're fed up. I'm not quite there myself yet, but...



This is a bad fucking look, man.


Yeah it was. Moderators shouldn’t be attacking posters for the degree they studied. I wish moderators and admins made a seperate anonymous account for themselves to post opinions like this about people’s degrees and relegate the moderation accounts to enforcing the tos, not personally singling out posters.
 

Sàmban

Banned
I’m not going anywhere. I’m staying right the fuck here calling out altright bullshit till I get banned.

Also Gaf isn’t that bad....yet. Seems a tad better than right after showergate to be honest. Still a lot of bullshit flying around but I’ve seen mods take action.
 
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bitbydeath

Member
Yeah it was. Moderators shouldn’t be attacking posters for the degree they studied. I wish moderators and admins made a seperate anonymous account for themselves to post opinions like this about people’s degrees and relegate the moderation accounts to enforcing the tos, not personally singling out posters.

Better to not attack them at all, take the higher ground.
 

Makariel

Member
I don't blindly follow, it's called I read academic journals and did research papers for 4 years you dumbass.
Congratulations, but so did hundreds of thousands of other people. Reading academic journals does not automatically prove your point, you still need to argue your case against your opposition. That's what a PhD thesis is about for example. And to be frank: you are really bad at this. Any academic regardless of discipline should be able to argue a point calm and rational, without ad hominem attacks. Also, one important skill you should have learned in those 4 years, reading lots of papers, is critical thinking. Not everything that is published is correct, indeed a lot of crap is written in academic journals for reasons I won't go into here (that is a lengthy rant all by itself). So, just because you read something in a book or paper somewhere doesn't automatically mean it's true. Your interpretation of often contradictory or conflicting statements and evidence, and using logic to get to a sensible conclusion, is an important part of what makes an academic. Ranting and calling names less so, at least in the Universities I went to and worked at so far.
 

ar0s

Member
Yo, didn't even read your post. You suck ass though. Read a fucking book. You always show up to regurgitate the most bullshit youtube personality opinions. Fuck yourself. Thanks.

You have been destroyed in debate after debate here then throw a tantrum. Good riddance.
 
I'm sure the fact those kids and families being treated as second class citizens has nothing to do with it right?
I'm from Europe, I know very well how Turks and Algerians are looked upon. Especially in France after Le Pen.
Stop playing the victim. It's really pathetic. The color of our skin gave us an edge tha every single racE wish they had

Le Pen lost and is currently being prosecuted for thought crimes. Get over her. You sound like an r/The Donald poster obsessing over Hillary.
 
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