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007 SPECTRE |OT| It's me, Austin. It was me all along, Austin.

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DrKelpo

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saw it on saturday... it was okay. some nice action scenes but the story was flat. i actually like craig as bond, but i always walk out the theatre kinda empty afterwards.


but the biggest question is yet unanswered (or it was, i didn't read the whole thread)

when madeleine goes to bed she is wearing some clothes. bond just sits on the chair, drinking booze.
then when the rat leads the way to the secret room, madeleine is suddenly wearing a negligee.

so either she woke up in the middle of the night because it was too hot to sleep in her regular clothes or drunken bond undressed her and put that thing on.
 

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He literally walked away from all of those without a scratch. I dont think his drill holes were even bleeding. He was invincible. As was his woman. And M and Q and everyone.. He also hit every shot at every enemy/vehicle. The chase with Bautista did nothing.

Zzz
 

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He literally walked away from all of those without a scratch. I dont think his drill holes were even bleeding. He was invincible. As was his woman. And M and Q and everyone.. He also hit every shot at every enemy/vehicle. The chase with Bautista did nothing.

Zzz

He also walked away from a sniper shot as well as a gun shot after falling hundreds of feet into a river.

Some how his testicles and dick still work after Casino Royal. He was also poisoned and quickly recovered from that as well.

That's what Bond does.

He was bleeding from the drill btw.
 

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The torture scene lacks tension in hindsight because literally nothing happened to him, but as it was starting up I definitely felt nervous about how it would play out. That said, it's a stark contrast to the equivalent in CR where you feel his pain in every swing.
 

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The torture scene lacks tension in hindsight because literally nothing happened to him, but as it was starting up I definitely felt nervous about how it would play out. That said, it's a stark contrast to the equivalent in CR where you feel his pain in every swing.

Yeah Casino Royale's torture scene is better paced and generally over all just better than the drill bit. No qualms there.
 

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Same old invite Bond in for a nice hotel room stay at my base and then torture him instead of a bullet in the eye. I know it's a super hero movie and I have no issue with the hero winning it's just.. I don't know. This series has been the same as Brosnan's. First movie is wonderful and then the rest fall flat. Brosnan's were more fun than this though.
 

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I made a James Bond OT just to get it going.

Thank you.

Just got back from the cinema. You know what hurts the most about SPECTRE? It's so... nothing. All the stories of how much of a shitshow the script was, how people describe this as a parody, or even a full on return to the camp fun and sillyness of the classic Bonds, and it doesn't even deliver on any of those fronts. What makes it all the more worse though is the potential they end up squandering. The cast, the locations, the proper return of SPECTRE, everything could've come together so beautifully. It's like, it's like they had all the pieces fo a great puzzle but they fucked up putting it together, jamming in stuff where it's not needed or spoiling parts of the image with the wrong parts. Everything on screen is a big fucking tease to a much, much greater film.

Well, if this film did one thing it's made me want to rewatch Casino Royale again.

I also re-watched Casino Royale after watching SPECTRE

It certainly didn't help that the needles sounded like a goddamn DENTIST'S DRILL going in, played at high volume.

I agree that the whole movie felt about as substantial as the popcorn as I was eating. It just seemed...lacking in tension...for lack of a better term. And the reveal that
SPECTRE was behind ALL the events of the previous Daniel Craig films
was patently ludicrous.

What really bothered me, however, was how totally wasted Monica Bellucci was. You don't cast someone that sexy only to have her onscreen for about three or four minutes at most.

True. If they were going to use an actress simply for Bond to seduce, the producers would have gone with a lesser known actress.
 

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Huh well that was something, I didn't expect it to be outright bad but it was, I was constantly bored throughout.

Craig was sleepwalking, Waltz had shit all to do, atleast Dave Bautista was solid in the heavy villain role, Lea and Whishaw I liked a lot.

The film didn't even have fantastic cinematography to fall back on, the opening sequence was washed out to no end, I figured there was maybe something wrong with the projecter during that scene but nope it looked that way again in Tangiers. The low lighting during the indoor scene was too low, it was dark and everyone was sitting around in the shadows. There was nothing exactly wrong with the camera work but the lighting completely screwed it up.

The Rome car chase was just uninspired, the film was already running on fumes by this point, I felt like I was watching a 6 minute car commercial, no tension.

I do hope they get some brand new screenwriters for the next one.

Going to rewatch Casino Royale tonight.
 

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It was awesome up until they got off the train. Then it really, really fell apart.

I can't think of another movie that with that sudden a drop in quality. Straight from the awesome fight on the train, to that terrible escape from the base.
 

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Just saw the film - worse Bond film in the Daniel Craig quadrilogy. Pacing was terrible and the villain.... no comment, and poor Monica Belluci - she's hardly present in the film, relegated to the role of a hoe with important info, smh.
 

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Saw it today, didn't think it was terrible, didn't think it was great. It was just kinda there. Poor way to explain it but it didn't really leave me feeling anything.
 

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Beautifully shot movie but pretty uninteresting. I don't really relish the thought of Waltz reappearing if this is how they're going to use him.

Thought the long take was absolute eye candy though. Beautiful shit.
 

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It was awesome up until they got off the train. Then it really, really fell apart.

I can't think of another movie that with that sudden a drop in quality. Straight from the awesome fight on the train, to that terrible escape from the base.
Just got back from seeing it tonight and yeah, I gotta agree with this.

I wasn't blown away by the movie at any point, but I was enjoying it until that third act. It got so stupid so fast.

Edit: After thinking about it, I can't believe that Craig's run is going to mirror Brosnan's. In that they both start out with one of the best movies of the entire series, then everything that follows is either a disappointment or outright mess. Shame.
 

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I wonder how they're going to do the next movie?
Do they kill Lea Seydoux off-screen because why else would Bond come back?
 

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Edit: After thinking about it, I can't believe that Craig's run is going to mirror Brosnan's. In that they both start out with one of the best movies of the entire series, then everything that follows is either a disappointment or outright mess. Shame.

I don't really see how Skyfall can be regarded as the equivalent of Die Another Day or The World Is Not Enough.
 

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Quantum of Solace I enjoy, not a lot of Bond fans seem to. The story leaves a lot to desired, I mean it's just a mess but the charactertizion works extremely well to me, and it's got some fantastic action set pieces.

Skyfall is nowhere near Brosnan's worst, overrated yes but not bad, it has a steller first half and fantastic cinematography.

Spectre in the other hand is the worst Bond film I've ever seen. You could make a case and say that the last few Bronson outings are the worst, but they are entertainingly shit, they are watchable trainwrecks.
 

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I don't really see how Skyfall can be regarded as the equivalent of Die Another Day or The World Is Not Enough.
I said either a disappointment or outright mess. It's not a perfect 1:1 repeat, just in the general sense that they started out with some of the strongest Bond movies ever and then never really came close to matching that.
 
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Well, I saw this.

I feel like they had the script for about 3 movies and none of them had endings so they rammed them all together but still had no idea how to end it.

Despite the lurching feeling of jolting from one scene to another with very little sense of pacing, the movie actually held itself together well up until the last act where it pretty much kind of fell to pieces because nobody seemed to know how to end it.

I'm baffled that they couldn't find a single screenwriter in Hollywood that could end the movie after all the setup that had gone on before it.

Honestly, I left the movie and I just felt totally flat. A movie just happened and I was completely un-engaged in what happend over the last 143 minutes. Nobody in the movie seemed to be having any fun at all, everyone seemed bored and even the chase sequences felt boring. I felt like Craig and Bautista were playing Need for Speed in real life, it was the most generic and unenthusiastic car chase I've ever watched. Even when he was trying out the buttons and they weren't doing anything and it was clearly supposed to be funny or something, no one in the theater even chuckled. The whole movie was suffused with this total lack of energy, like everyone from Mendes on down felt the goal was to make a competent movie as opposed to an amazing one.
 

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Watched it last night.

Not as bad as Skyfall, but not something I have any desire to watch again. Casino Royale is still the best Craig bond film, even with how boring it gets at the end.
 
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Thought the movie was pretty average to be honest. I enjoyed skyfall fall way, way more. The theme song was probably the most disappointing part. What a massive step down after adele.
 

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I just got home from watching it in IMAX (or at least that what they consider that here in The Netherlands) and I really enjoyed it. No moment did I find it boring and it was a blast throughout. But I'm saddened that Bond is back to being a super hero, even more so than in QOS (at least he got dirty in that film). Here not a single scratch throughout the entire film even after
the fight on the train
. I get that this is a Bond flick, but Casino did such a damn good job at it. Hell even in Skyfall he was beaten both physically and emotionally by the end.

Also, I found the movie to somewhat lose the plot about two thirds in. I was fine with everything but went completely "Nope!" when I saw the
white cat
. I hadn't followed the leaks and previews/impressions and all because I wanted it all too be completely fresh. And that moment happened and I said it before the film had the chance and... It just felt so forced to me. Especially everything that came added ontop of that.
Shoehorning this film in with the previous three.

Well that and the CGI was terrible at times. The previous film made over one billion dollar. They really couldn't spend some of that money on the CGI?
 

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Watched it last night. Pretty dull. Casino Royale was savage, Bond was raging, brutal, exciting. Here he is... a snob.
 

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Saw it yesterday. It's an odd film... and fair share of it just feels like it's through the motions.

Thought Skyfall was better, even though I don't remember much from it.
 

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Watched it last night. Pretty dull. Casino Royale was savage, Bond was raging, brutal, exciting. Here he is... a snob.

In Casino Royale, Bond's injuries would remain visible throughout the movie. Especially the part where he got cuts all over his face, the marks are still visible in concurring scenes. It gave the movie an interesting sense of realism and I really enjoyed that attention to detail.

In Spectre he gets beaten up quite severely, but no visual feedback whatsoever. Such a missed opportunity.
 

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Saw it last week, fun enough but far from the best I'd eve seen in a Bond movie.

1. The Cthulu imagery in the opening was cool, though the sad song didn't really match the whole Bond vs. Cthulu imagery. I'm in the minority who thinks its a decent enough song, but they needed something more epic sounding to make that scene work.

2. I liked how old school the outside of the base looked. Called back to classic bond like they were going for with bringing back Spectre.

3. When the girl was watching her father die and bond is like "don't look," maybe I'm too used to the trope, but I felt like I was missing something cause she was gonna blame bond somehow for the death. The invocation of the trope where the villain showing someone's loved one dying and the hero says don't look without the part where the hero gets blamed for it was jarring for me.

4. Putting Bond in the giant death trap at the end like the classic villains was a nice touch, though it was a little too much like the joker's plan in the dark knight.

5. The day after, I watched A View to a Kill for the first time. Vastly underrated. My personal favorite Bond movie so far.
 

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I saw it last night and enjoyed it well enough. Don't know how I'd compare it to Skyfall since I haven't seen that one since theaters in 2012. I do remember enjoying it, for what it's worth.

But in terms of this year's spy movies, I'd put it above The Man from U.N.C.L.E. but below Mission: Impossible and Kingsman.
 

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Everything after the opening scene in this movie sucked for me. All the characters were so flat, and the big scheme of the villain couldn't have been more dull. QoS was better than this, and I hated QoS. Even the Living Daylights was better than this.
 

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Re watched the movie again. It was not as bad as i thought on the first viewing. But better than other bond movies. I would say the lack of tension is the biggest culprit and seeing the car chase made me realize how much more i want a serious action film.

Also you can see where sony spent the budget in this movie. most other movie now look cheap compared to this
 
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