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2 California Deputies Shot In Head In Ambush Attack

SF Kosmo

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No, comparing all cops to Chauvin did. Calling for all cops to be banned did. Calling for the death of all cops did. It's hard to argue that war hasn't been declared on police.
You have zero evidence this is even protest related, man. It could just as easily be a gang initiation or something else. The suspect looks to be about 12.

LA has had tense relations with public and police for 50+ years. Anti police sentiment is not new.
 
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HeresJohnny

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You have zero evidence this is even protest related, man. It could just as easily be a gang initiation or something else. The suspect looks to be about 12.

LA has had tense relations with public and police for 50+ years. Anti police sentiment is not new.
And you have zero evidence it isn't.

I'm going with where there's smoke there's fire. In the first two weeks of these "protests" more than 700 officers were attacked and wounded and God knows what the number is now. Many have been killed. But seriously, you are not dumb enough to believe that all the scribblings on the walls of "kill the cops" and the anti-cop advocacy coming from elected officials hasn't played a role in violence against cops. I've got footage of people standing outside the hospital where these two were taken of people promising to kill the cops preventing them from coming into the hospital to finish the job, and you've got what...."Maybe it was a gang initiation! The dude looked 12!"?

We'll see in short order when this fucking asshole is caught, and I'll be glad to eat crow if he was doing something as mundane as getting into a gang (which you don't even need to join these days, all you have to do is walk outside). Til then, we'll see. I will say that I find it fucking funny and tragic that people like you suddenly want to take a step back and not paint any pictures without facts when that's what has been happening to cops since Floyd died. This was a targeted, planned attack on cops, which fits right in with the MO of the people we've been seeing on television for months.
 

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And you have zero evidence it isn't.

I'm going with where there's smoke there's fire. In the first two weeks of these "protests" more than 700 officers were attacked and wounded and God knows what the number is now. Many have been killed. But seriously, you are not dumb enough to believe that all the scribblings on the walls of "kill the cops" and the anti-cop advocacy coming from elected officials hasn't played a role in violence against cops. I've got footage of people standing outside the hospital where these two were taken of people promising to kill the cops preventing them from coming into the hospital to finish the job, and you've got what...."Maybe it was a gang initiation! The dude looked 12!"?

We'll see in short order when this fucking asshole is caught, and I'll be glad to eat crow if he was doing something as mundane as getting into a gang (which you don't even need to join these days, all you have to do is walk outside). Til then, we'll see. I will say that I find it fucking funny and tragic that people like you suddenly want to take a step back and not paint any pictures without facts when that's what has been happening to cops since Floyd died. This was a targeted, planned attack on cops, which fits right in with the MO of the people we've been seeing on television for months.
I am just avoiding leaping to conclusions. Obviously police-public relations are at an all-time low nationally right now. But they've been really bad in places like Los Angeles, Baltimore, and Philadelphia for a real long time. And a lot of that resentment from the public was earned, but then it would boil over into really reprehensible stuff like what you see here, too. That's not entirely unrelated to what's happening now, but it's also not new.
 
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I am just avoiding leaping to conclusions. Obviously police-public relations are at an all-time low nationally right now. But they've been really bad in places like Los Angeles, Baltimore, and Philadelphia for a real long time. And a lot of that resentment from the public was earned, but then it would boil over into really reprehensible stuff like what you see here, too. That's not entirely unrelated to what's happening now, but it's also not new.
Yeah what a coincidence that those cities are drug/crime infested shit holes. It’s almost as if the police reflect the community they work in 🤔
 
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SF Kosmo

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Yeah what a coincidence that those cities are drug infested shit holes. It’s almost as if the police reflect the community they work in 🤔
It's certainly good evidence that strong-arm policing isn't actually effective at reducing crime, that's true.
 
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You know there’s some significant evidence that it is the only way to reduce crime.
Source: The world.
There's also significant evidence that defunding police and marginalizing them is fucking stupid. And when I say stupid, I mean AOC-level stupid. Speaking of which, how'd they manage to muzzle that bitch? I haven't seen much of her lately. Wouldn't it be refreshing to see a "journalist" track her down and ask her if "defund still means defund"?
 

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You know there’s some significant evidence that it is the only way to reduce crime.
Source: The world.
There is not. Police brutality has negative effects on crime in almost every case.

We need police to reduce crime. Of course. But, like, we need police that actually solve and prevent crime, which it turns out is a totally different skillset than busting heads and writing tickets and places that get that confused always have high crime.

Let's put welfare under the same lens and see if it reduces overall rates of poverty...
Right, like for example, how the Republican-led, Clinton-era reforms to Welfare that were supposed to reduce dependency have increased it. Often these things are matters of "how" and not "how much."

It's the same for police. Good policing reduces crime, not just "more" policing.
 
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It's certainly good evidence that strong-arm policing isn't actually effective at reducing crime, that's true.
You must be exhausted from all the mental gymnastics, trying so hard to find an excuse for this piece of shit who shot the cops.

Actually, anonymous sources have told me that this urban scholar wasn't trying to shoot the cops but rather help them. He heard from other anonymous sources that the police officers were allergic to bees. He saw a bee in their car and tried to shoot it. His gun was legal as he was on his way to his church's gun club potluck for the homeless. So, this young man is a hero and I'll join you in celebration of his actions. Hip hip...hooray!!
 

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There is not. Police brutality has negative effects on crime in almost every case.

We need police to reduce crime. Of course. But, like, we need police that actually solve and prevent crime, which it turns out is a totally different skillset than busting heads and writing tickets and places that get that confused always have high crime.


Right, like for example, how the Republican-led, Clinton-era reforms to Welfare that were supposed to reduce dependency have increased it. Often these things are matters of "how" and not "how much."

It's the same for police. Good policing reduces crime, not just "more" policing.
Wrong. We can see on the city-sized and state-sized scale (San Fran, CA) how increasing welfare does not help either. Stop blaming 30 year old Republican policies for the Democrat's ineptitude. The same goes for the situation in the OP. Violence against cops is a Democrat burden to bear now that they've been stoking these flames for years.

Cowardly avoiding responsibility only shows that Dems are unfit to lead, and commentators like yourself who do it are unfit to discuss to the topic.
 

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They aren’t victims. They just can’t have discussions without losing their shit when someone doesn’t agree. The left doesn’t argue politics, it argues morality. Trump is going to do what he thinks a president should do, I don’t think he cares if anyone has a problem with it.
It is strange that you are struggling so hard to misunderstand and misinterpret what I am saying.
 

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Wrong. We can see on the city-sized and state-sized scale (San Fran, CA) how increasing welfare does not help either. Stop blaming 30 year old Republican policies for the Democrat's ineptitude.
I mean we're going to get way off course here, but these are all related. The deregulation of welfare put a lot of power in the state's hands to determine how they handled welfare spending, and allowed them to allocate money to a broader range of programs, nearly all of which have been horribly ineffective, because, as it turns out, just giving people money gave them a lot more flexibility and made it easier for them to get off welfare, compared to the present reality where staying on welfare is itself almost a full time job and requires being so bought-in to the system that leaving it would make you homeless. It's a fucking nightmare.

If we went back to giving people cash assistance we'd save money and make it easier for people to get off welfare. But people don't want to do that because they'll "buy Cadillacs and drugs" or whatever the fuck people think.
You must be exhausted from all the mental gymnastics, trying so hard to find an excuse for this piece of shit who shot the cops.
Are you high? When did I excuse this? I called it vile.
 
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Actualamente, facile es casi lo mismo de una palabra de espanol, facilidad, y tambien tiene muchos otras connexiones en ingles tambien, por exemplo, facility, facilitate. Te ofendo sobre un poco Latin, par que, mientras no actualamente hablo Latin, etymologia es un interes de mio, y si te ofendo, me gustaria a darte palabras de Latin hasta las vacas regresan a la casa.
 
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Actualamente, facile es casi lo mismo de una palabra de espanol, facilidad, y tambien tiene muchos otras connexiones en ingles tambien, por exemplo, facility, facilitate. Te ofendo sobre un poco Latin, par que, mientras no actualamente hablo Latin, etymologia es un interes de mio, y si te ofendo, me gustaria a darte palabras de Latin hasta las vacas regresan a la casa.
😂 Take this advice for what it’s worth. Nothing makes you look stupid more than trying to appear intelligent. Intelligent is something you just are.
 
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Actualamente, facile es casi lo mismo de una palabra de espanol, facilidad, y tambien tiene muchos otras connexiones en ingles tambien, por exemplo, facility, facilitate. Te ofendo sobre un poco Latin, par que, mientras no actualamente hablo Latin, etymologia es un interes de mio, y si te ofendo, me gustaria a darte palabras de Latin hasta las vacas regresan a la casa.
ego sum leno pater, motherfuckerrrrrrr
 

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Rather than banning violent murderous assholes, Biden of course pivots to it being a gun control problem, even though California has some of the most restrictive gun control in the nation and it wasn’t an “assault” weapon that shot these two cops.

Nothing Biden is proposing in this tweet would’ve changed a damn thing with regard to this, or most shootings.
Their agenda has always been clear.

Easier to have your commie/socialist takeover when you disarm its citizens after defunding the private police. Now where in history has this always happened? :pie_thinking:
 
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You have zero evidence this is even protest related, man. It could just as easily be a gang initiation or something else. The suspect looks to be about 12.

LA has had tense relations with public and police for 50+ years. Anti police sentiment is not new.
That may be true and I do feel its gang related (which though could still be BLM related, hey kill a cop to get in since its all the rage to hate cops now).

But the after the fact adoption and praise by BLM, going to the hospital to "protest", posting all kinds of congrats and high fives. BLM basically took this up. If they would have said its horrible then it would of been fine to seperate the two. But since they basically came out and praised the killings they turned this into a BLM thing.

Add in the fact that protesters have injured cops, killed cops, and I have heard them saying things like the only way you can redeem yourself is by killing yourself, or take a gun and blow your head off, or I am going to start killing cops right now, they pretty much have taken up the position of being pro cop killing.

So even if this MBA did this as some gang thing, BLM has endorsed it so they own it now.
 
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ANTIFA and Black Lies Metastasis are two rapidly spreading stage-4 CANCERS

America-hating MSM and social media is the vehicle for delivering these evil ideas and influencing the American People.
 
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Actualamente, facile es casi lo mismo de una palabra de espanol, facilidad, y tambien tiene muchos otras connexiones en ingles tambien, por exemplo, facility, facilitate. Te ofendo sobre un poco Latin, par que, mientras no actualamente hablo Latin, etymologia es un interes de mio, y si te ofendo, me gustaria a darte palabras de Latin hasta las vacas regresan a la casa.
Damn son, I'm not very well spoken, but I take it someone just dropped some truth in Mexican, boy howdy
 

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I mean we're going to get way off course here, but these are all related. The deregulation of welfare put a lot of power in the state's hands to determine how they handled welfare spending, and allowed them to allocate money to a broader range of programs, nearly all of which have been horribly ineffective, because, as it turns out, just giving people money gave them a lot more flexibility and made it easier for them to get off welfare, compared to the present reality where staying on welfare is itself almost a full time job and requires being so bought-in to the system that leaving it would make you homeless. It's a fucking nightmare.

If we went back to giving people cash assistance we'd save money and make it easier for people to get off welfare. But people don't want to do that because they'll "buy Cadillacs and drugs" or whatever the fuck people think.

Are you high? When did I excuse this? I called it vile.
It's very obvious when you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
 
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This is terrible all together. A disgrace

You all should give Nobody_Important Nobody_Important a break. He condemned this multiple times already. No need to pile on him, he didnt shoot the cops.
Sorry, but no. To me users such as N_I and Co. are either the subverters or the blind believers that try to pry themself into communities trting to steer political discussion, make hot takes on every new topic to take away from one political camp and dump into the other, who either hide or (with dificulties) admit they were (mostly) wrong on many subjets, waiting for another topic to pop up and try to play the same game over, and over again only because it fits their agenda.
This is tiring and with the current situation in the US this is blatantly being blind to the world around you.
 

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Sorry, but no. To me users such as N_I and Co. are either the subverters or the blind believers that try to pry themself into communities trting to steer political discussion, make hot takes on every new topic to take away from one political camp and dump into the other, who either hide or (with dificulties) admit they were (mostly) wrong on many subjets, waiting for another topic to pop up and try to play the same game over, and over again only because it fits their agenda.
This is tiring and with the current situation in the US this is blatantly being blind to the world around you.
You certainly can discus it with him. I just dont think shoving it through his troath is productive.
He (sorry, assumed your gender) doesnt seem like an unreasonable person. I do understand the frustration and where your coming from.

Thats all I want to say abt it btw. No disrespect
 

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The assailant took off for his mobile home and refused to come out in a standoff with authorities, news station WCSC reported, citing authorities.

Berkeley County deputies sent a scout robot into his trailer before making entry to arrest Bowman, who was naked and screaming, authorities said.
I mean, maybe.. but this sounds like run of the mill batshit insane.




News story said naked dude had history with the Chief.. so not BLM related.
 
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You certainly can discus it with him. I just dont think shoving it through his troath is productive.
He (sorry, assumed your gender) doesnt seem like an unreasonable person. I do understand the frustration and where your coming from.

Thats all I want to say abt it btw. No disrespect
So... we can discuss it with him. But if too many do... it's a pile on, so don't. You understand our frustration with him, and where we are coming from, but chide people for calling him out because he seems reasonable to you.

Sure.

And assuming people's gender is not something to apologize for. It is likely the first thing your mind registers the instant it looks at any person or image of a person. You are not a bigot for assuming he is male, so don't feign that you are somehow better than your own instinct by apologizing for yourself. Don't let yourself suffer under the tyranny of political correctness.
 

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Sorry if my apathy offends you, sincerely.
Not offended,its your freedom to comment on whatever you like, you weren't causing harm. It's just always a bit ironic when people say they don't care yet go through the effort to let people know they don't care.