Finished? No. I don't think they had stuff ready to go three months ago that they just refuse to show off, particularly given the dire situation they're in right now. If any heavy hitters were ready to go, I'd have at least thought that we'd see some glimpse of it at the last Nintendo Direct with at least one of them moved up sooner to alleviate concerns at the lack of software coming in the short term.You don't think they have finished titles ready that they are holding back for strategic deployment against PS4 / Xbox720 release dates that they could have instead released at launch for a console announced 2 years ago?
You don't think they have finished titles ready that they are holding back for strategic deployment against PS4 / Xbox720 release dates that they could have instead released at launch for a console announced 2 years ago?
The Wii is self evidently not the WiiU, and the people buying it at launch are not the same people who had the Wii being scalped on eBay for its first year of release.
Zelda is a big gun to the people buying the WiiU right now. NSMB is not.
And just to make sure that we're on the same page, what I'm referring to would be system sellers along the lines of Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Smash, etc. I find the notion that any of those types of games are finished right now and were ready to go at launch to be absurd. The only title I'd maybe believe was ready would be this mysterious Retro title, and that's simply because it's a complete X-Factor. But the others? My assumption is that they're working feverishly as we type to make sure one or more is ready this year. But I highly doubt they're already done.
They needed to release those now, not when GTA V and everything else comes out.
More fingers crossed for back-against-wall Nintendo to be as badass as they were during GCN gen.
I'd be surprised if Mario Kart isn't ready to go, and could have been a launch title (although that would then have the 'rushed' feeling that NSMBU does of launching so close to its handheld cousin) but I agree a new 3D Mario and Smash aren't close to ready.
I half expect GTAV to fuck up launch sales of the next xbox / playstation if they are in that window
They're probably going to have games coming out every month after February.
Not if the Durango/Orbis launch games trump GTA V in a variety of different ways, I absolutely adore the GTA series but the limitations that are on GTA V due to these consoles will end up showing in one way or another.
GTA is probably the biggest release of the year so that's easier said than done.
It's better! Would you like some numbers devoid of meaningful context to back that claim up?
Is anyone even honestly doing that anymore?
It is far too soon for a verdict though.
Publishers and developers from the US, UK, France, Germany, and Australia mainly.
Is the sentiment worse than early PS3 days?
I saw it in this thread earlier today.
I wonder if sony fans were like that back when ps3 was getting its ass mangled.
Pubs and devs never recoiled from PS3 like they seem to be with Wii U (though this is anecdotal). There was always the confidence that the numbers would get there over time with PS3. I'm not sensing that with Wii U.
I had a data point yesterday at lunch with a high budget Wii U game that was hoping to sell "millions" over time. It only managed "tens of thousands".
It is far too soon for a verdict though.
It's too early to bust out the Kenshrio "already dead" gifs. But in terms of assessing the launch, unless you're really married to the idea of only measuring the performance in terms of how the raw hardware numbers stack up against the PS3 and 360, I think it's becoming increasingly difficult to argue that current indicators suggest anything other than an abject failure at this point. That doesn't mean that it can't have a good holiday 2013. That doesn't mean that Nintendo can't go to the 3DS playbook and improve the situation. But as is, the situation is pretty gloomy.
Was the game any good in the end? It could have sold badly even if the Wii U was selling well is the quality isn't up to scratch.I had a data point yesterday at lunch with a high budget Wii U game that was hoping to sell "millions" over time. It only managed "tens of thousands".
GodDAMN son, just what the fuck is going on in the UK? It's like the entire area has given up on video games.
So I did a few calculations with these figures.
Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111
Market decrease of 26%
Now let's look at the detail.
Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k
Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%
So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?
I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
* Completely ignores other numbers*
I really can't believe people have no idea why the Wii U, 3DS and Vita are tanking, there isn't any software. Simple, nothing to do with marketing, nothing to do with the consoles themselves, there is just no software.