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538:The Identity Politics Of The Trump Administration

Future

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I bet most GOP voters refuse to believe or don't understand structural racism. They think the best candidates are always chosen unless there are regulations like Affirmative Action.

I bet they also refuse to believe that police have any tendency to be worst against black people, which is why digging up the past of victims of police brutality is so effective.

So in short, they refuse to believe the all the bad things black people have to endure, but see things like Affirmative Action and reason they have it pretty good.

Agreed. I also think that white republicans are tired of hearing about black lives so they reject the notions more intensely than other groups. Black people "had their time" in the 60s and white people suffered trying to make up for racism and ancestors so they are done with that. Further, there has been other data that these voters also think negatively of black people in general so they think there is some validity in marginalizing blacks

If you are it white neighborhoods in some of these rural areas and states you may not see any black people ever. So all you get as info is media portrayal and local conversation. Since it's all negative, you probably WILL think that cops killing a black person is nothing lost in the grand scheme of things since they cause so many problems anyway. Black lives matter as true of a cause may have been, ignited extra fury and annoyance about this and helped motivate this kind of trump movement

I can understand this line of thought in low educated folk in segregated areas with low population and diversity. The saddest part is when supposedly intelligent people that enter office, or report the news, or become president, exploit these groups and pretend to not know the racism and hate they are harboring to push their own agendas ahead. But that's what happens when you play to win
 

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They think Christians are the most discriminated against despite being over 70% of America...
 

winjet81

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What's interesting is how shrewdly Trump has curried favor with Christians even though he hates the hell out of them.

Did the same thing with the beleaguered working class during the election.
 

abundant

Member
They think Christians are the most discriminated against despite being over 70% of America...

‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’

Now that the LGBTQ community are starting to gain rights, they feel like it's an attack on them.
 
‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’

Now that the LGBTQ community are starting to gain rights, they feel like it's an attack on them.

That quote is so true, it hurts. And something tells me we are gonna be repeating it for quite some time.
 

Beartruck

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So by republican logic, when a black church burns down, its probably discrimination against christians not black people.

...wat.
 

Elandyll

Banned
How most Democrats seem to view the average Christian Family
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How most Republicans seem to view the Average Christian Family
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(Except probably no black guy)
 
So black people are the least discriminated group in America, according to GOP voters.

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Those good for nothing thugs were trying to get their way with "Black Lives Matter" aka Terrorism. It's really no wonder.

/s


Can someone explain the chart, I don't understand how it's to be read. The closer to zero the more bias against you show?
The people polled were asked "Is there a lot of discrimination against blacks/gays & lesbians/Christians/etc?" And had their party affiliation noted. The dots represent the number of people who said yes. So about 40% of Republicans vs about 80% of Democrats said that Immigrants face a lot of discrimination
 
Can someone explain the chart, I don't understand how it's to be read. The closer to zero the more bias against you show?

The sub-heading is fairly descriptive. It's percentages of people that believe discrimination exists.

20% of Republicans believe black people are discriminated against.
~40% of Republicans believe white people are discriminated against
 
This is obvious to anyone with a brain.

And yet certain "liberals" will continue to let me know how the left lost the election because they played identity politics while Trump eschewed it and talked the economy, and that's why people voted for him. Fucking nonsense. The right has somehow been able to build their entire platform around identity politics while, at the same time, blaming the other side for it when they get called on their bigoted bullshit. They get away with it because people are stupid and elected officials on the left are toothless. You'll have GAFfers come into this very thread and start talking about how identity politics have failed the left. Think about that, these are so-called democrats who still haven't clued themselves into the fact that, whaddya fucking know, republicans are actually the ones playing identity politics while selling the opposite to the public, and now liberals are buying what they're selling too.

Both parties play hard to their side's identity politics (a.k.a. culture wars and the associated narratives). It just so happens that the Republican's culture war narrative includes tightly entwined job entitlement and other economic policy aspects (a.k.a. brown people steal our jobs and leech off of our taxes; therefore, we should deport them, incarcerate them, and pay less taxes to hurt them). The center-right economic policies of Democrats in recent years have been weak narratively speaking with regards to correlating with their side's identity politics.

That is the economic disconnect with the Democrats this time around: failing to tie in economic policy with their identity politics.

For example, a major concern of young progressives is the expense of college and how crippling debt associated with it is stifling their venture into the typical milestones of adulthood (buying a house, investing in a community, etc.). Also, lack of career building/advancement opportunities, underemployment, expensive healthcare (even with the recent benefits of the ACA), and lack of investment in a modern, sustainsble infrastructure domestically were all major economic concerns, as well. They were all very weakly tied into the narrative put forth by Clinton (although not necessarily not addressed at some level by her official platform). Bernie did a much better job integrating addressing these concerns into the narrative he put forth.
 

Guileless

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You'll have GAFfers come into this very thread and start talking about how identity politics have failed the left.

Republicans are at historical levels of electoral success. Traditional center-left parties are cratering across the rest of the West. Everybody is throwing a party because a neoliberal banker got elected in France.
 
This is interesting because that NYTimes poll last summer said 22% of White Democrats resented Black people. Here, roughly the same % of Democrats feel whites are discriminated against.
 

mckmas8808

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It's interesting that Republicans seem to think that everyone is discriminated against roughly equally, except black people, they're the only real outlier. And if I'm seeing the dots right, they think Christians are discriminated against marginally more than even Trans people.

Fantasy land LOL!
 
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