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ActionButton.net updates; fear and loathing ensue

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Kestastrophe

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Sho_Nuff82

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Your website gave Mario Galaxy a middling review, and then came here to brag about it? Are you suicidal or something?
 

nofi

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Ethoscapade said:
www.actionbutton.net

Tim Rogers is at it again with a two point five star review of one Mario Galaxy!

(and I hope you guys like my Sunshine piece while you're at it)

You need to put another 50p in the meter, your colour has run out.
 

Tim-E

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According to Tim Rogers, Vision Training is a better game than Mario Galaxy.
 

Haly

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Sho_Nuff82 said:
Your website gave Mario Galaxy a middling review, and then came here to brag about it? Are you suicidal or something?
He's just trying to draw some attention. Ignore him!
 

Stinkles

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The formatting, kerning, leading and tracking of the text on that site gave me face-cancer.
 

mCACGj

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I can't really criticize the guy's opinion on the game, but I'd prefer it if he didn't write about what he wanted in the game, and instead wrote about what was in the game...because what was in the game made it a pretty damn good one.
 

aesop

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tim rogers said:
There comes a point in every high-profile game-reviewer’s life when he has to put down that can of Red Bull (which has likely been empty for minutes now) and start banging out the words.

What? Actionbutton.net is a high-profile site?
 

nofi

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aesop said:
What? Actionbutton.net is a high-profile site?

It's run by an Australian band member - how high profile do you want? He is also a solo artist, as well as having fronted and released albums with bands The Twin Set and The Temperance Union.
 

kottila

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I read untill my eyes started bleeding and then I suddenly realized I was only half way through and closed the window.
 
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I'd lock this, but my eyes are burning, and the site deserves every bit of critism it gets.

(And trasher, you'd better remove that avatar and find one under the 150kb limit before my sight returns and I find the admin panel button :p)
 

Mojovonio

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Why is everything on the site black and white.

Usability >>>>>>>> what you think looks cool

Dumbass.
 

Tiktaalik

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Alright so I read through the ENTIRE review so I could boil it down to the main arguments for you guys.

I'm sure cutting out all his filler will annoy Tim Rogers to no end, but it's the internet, no, the real world, and nothing anyone writes is important enough to be longer than a page. Despite the 2.5 score and some of the conclusions of this review, there actually is quite a few good points and some good writing in here. It's just.... too.... long...

Ok HERE WE GOOOOO!!

First the few positives.
He doesn't actually write very much about what he liked in the game.

+ 2D sections are the best, remarks how this is ironic and sad.
+ Manta Ray and Mario on a Ball are some of the best parts of the game.

Now the negatives that I think are actually pretty reasonable points.

- Game is very linear. Disappointing considering earlier demo made it seem it wouldn't be like this.
- Difficulty same from beginning to end instead of ramping up like previous Mario games. He mentions that this isn't the wii's fault, Nintendo has been moving in this direction since Super Mario World (hard worlds hidden).
- What ever happened to Super Mario? Why is there no item that makes me massively more powerful?

Now the negatives that I don't think are reasonable points at all.

- Complains about how penguins tell you how to swim. Dumbing down etc..
Dude there is like no tutorial in this game...

- Random Filler crap between levels is lengthly and pointless.
He goes on about this A LOT. He seems to hate presentation? This is such a petty point really.

-Story is filler? If Nintendo didn't care to make good cutscenes and voice cting, why put the story in?
- Rosalina has no function in the story. Princess Rosalina feels simultaneously underused and tacked-on.
-Hates the spin attack for some reason, would rather have mario punch and kick.
Is this really that big of a complaint Tim?

- Seems to dislike pits of death, but not just the pit but the slowness and inevitability of the action.

In the pyramid world, there’s a similar part where you have to keep jumping into tornadoes, sending Mario spinning through the air very, very, very, very, very slowly. Line him up with the platform and do a hip drop to land — or else, if you miss the mark, just float helplessly until you’re dead, or else do a hip drop to give up already. I don’t like any game — especially Mario — having “just give up already” situations.

- Doesn't like the powerups but no real justification. Arbitrarily decides that Bee Mario is worse than Racoon Mario.

A lot of the complaints are really silly and petty, but there is actually some fun writing in there. In a WILD tangent about Rosalina he writes:

Why, then, must Princess Rosalina tell us, “The Grand Star has powered up the core, restoring energy to The Kitchen!” Why tell us that the room we’re about to go check out is a kitchen? For god’s sake, let us figure it out for ourselves; Grandpa’s Pacemaker isn’t going to explode because “Holy shit no one told me it was gonna be a kitchen!!”

Overall there is a small handful of reasonable complaints, a large number of stupid complaints, and a huge amount of random tangents.

The main problem with this review is whereas it seems like everyone else reviewed Super Mario Galaxy for the game that it is, Tim Rogers is comparing the game against some made up, awesomer Mario game that he's invented in his head.
 

RedNumberFive

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God I hate Tim Rogers reviews and this whole "new game journalism" thing in general. I don't need everyone's life story, as well as what they had for lunch, for a flippin' game review. This trend needs to die.
 

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"Why tell us that the room we’re about to go check out is a kitchen? For god’s sake, let us figure it out for ourselves; Grandpa’s Pacemaker isn’t going to explode because “Holy shit no one told me it was gonna be a kitchen!!”

Tell me this isn't a valid point.

You have to take Tim's "scores" with a grain of salt, but his criticism is very sound. Weren't a lot of people on this forum a bit disappointed upon discovering that galaxy had a hub rather than a huge streaming world like the TGS/E3 demo implicated? Same goes for overexplanations in Nintendo titles.

I think what he's trying to say is that while a lot of the gameplay segments in galaxy are fun, Nintendo needs to seriously re-think it's approach in terms of presentation.
 

Dalauz

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i dont get action buttons. I give a damn about how many wine brands/artist do you know Tim. Just talk about the game.
 

Tiktaalik

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Balzac said:
Tell me this isn't a valid point.

You have to take Tim's "scores" with a grain of salt, but his criticism is very sound. Weren't a lot of people on this forum a bit disappointed upon discovering that galaxy had a hub rather than a huge streaming world like the TGS/E3 demo implicated? Same goes for overexplanations in Nintendo titles.

I don't know. Reading the criticism is a lot like reading a bunch of piddling nitpicks. I make the same sort of nitpick comments about games all the time, joking around with friends, but wouldn't seriously criticize the game based on them.
 

kenta

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I'd lock this, but my eyes are burning, and the site deserves every bit of critism it gets.
But the site thrives on that criticism, they're being fueled by leaving this thread open! They feel validated by this :/
 

dr3upmushroom

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I glanced through the thread and it's something about doing it with your wife, driving to LA, and I think he is promoting drug use.
 
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