Neuromancer
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Wow craziness. I can't wait to see this first game in action.
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Activision/Bungie game revealed by court (4 MMO sci-fantasy FPSs, more) [OP Updated]
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Glass Rebel
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Wii U am cry
Exclusives are bullshit though. Gimme this thing on PC from beginning to end.
Exclusives are bullshit though. Gimme this thing on PC from beginning to end.
butter_stick
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But you're implying that's a reason for Bungie not to sign with them. All Bungie want is financial backing and promotional support. I'm sure they're smarter about these things than message board posters.
NullPointer
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Same here, but all the same I wouldn't be surprised if it came with some overly restrictive online requirement. I can only imagine this thing would involve an Elite v2.
While my interest in Bungie's new IP is only casual at this point, I'm actually more curious as to what this means for Call of Duty. Depending on the scale of these expansion packs, I'm wondering if Activision will push it to have a presence annually. If so, would they really consider releasing Bungie's game against Call of Duty or even in the same time frame?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
People are really surprised at the quality incentive? That's been going on for awhile now.
It's incredibly slow, but it appears that CoD is on the decline. This would probably allow them to only put out a CoD every other year with the Bungie game filling in the off years. By all accounts Infinity Ward is basically a shell at this point, roll them into Treyarch or vice versa and have that team focus on one CoD every two years instead of every year.
BigTnaples
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Awesome info.
Can't wait to see what Bungie does.
Are people really getting upset because a game is exclusive? 360 could use some more exclusives...
Can't wait to see what Bungie does.
Are people really getting upset because a game is exclusive? 360 could use some more exclusives...
This sums up everything wrong with reviews.
Too easy to bribe reviewers with swag and such for higher review scores knowing you'll get a huge payout in the end.
I'd rather not buy 3 consoles if I can help it though.
shinobi602
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You added on "sci fi shooters". They said they needed a break from Halo. They didn't necessarily mean sci fi in general, just the Halo universe.
HigherLevel
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Threads on gaf about MS. "They don't have enough exclusives, nobody cares about core gamers"
Thread revealing new 360 exclusive. "Wow, that's BS, 360 only. Really? Come on."
snoopeasystreet
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Activision likes money. A bungie game will make money even if its on one console plus Microsoft will probably co market it. And by letting activision publish for them, it leaves the door open for bungie to make a playstation game if they ever want to.
You say that now, but once the next generation reaches its very end and barely anything is coming out, you'll be happy that you can buy the other two consoles for like a hundred bucks a piece, and actually have more incentive then just 1st party games to actually pick them up.
shinobi602
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Black Ops II preorders have already far surpassed the previous two iterations in this point in its life. What do you mean appears on the decline?
So who wants to place bets on if MS/Activision/Bungie make announcements early or still hold out for E3? I think I feel the worst for urk lol.
Check out any of the NPD/sales threads; month to month MW3 is down compared to Black Ops, the series sales are becoming more and more front-loaded. Unless some sort of miracle happens Black Ops will absolutely outperform MW3 in lifetime sales by probably at least 2-3 million copies which seems like a shitload, until you consider that I think Black Ops is at something like 21 million LTD? So obviously if MW3 does say 17 million that's obviously still great, but it's still a downward trend, especially when you look at Black Ops being #2 on XBL right behind MW3 (and with MW2 still in the top 10 I believe). It's very slowly trending downward and the playerbase is fragmenting. Like I referenced there have been Activision conference calls where they've mentioned the Bungie IP basically coming in to relieve CoD if that starts to decline YOY like Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk did, etc. MW3 was definitely the tipping point where most of my friends were done with it after a month or two, and we all played MW2 and Blops for a full year until the next release, Activision would be smart to try to get out ahead of that happening rather than running it into the ground until it's long dead like GH/TH, etc.
Check out any of the NPD/sales threads; month to month MW3 is down compared to Black Ops, the series sales are becoming more and more front-loaded. Unless some sort of miracle happens Black Ops will absolutely outperform MW3 in lifetime sales by probably at least 2-3 million copies which seems like a shitload, until you consider that I think Black Ops is at something like 21 million LTD? So obviously if MW3 does say 17 million that's obviously still great, but it's still a downward trend, especially when you look at Black Ops being #2 on XBL right behind MW3 (and with MW2 still in the top 10 I believe). It's very slowly trending downward and the playerbase is fragmenting. Like I referenced there have been Activision conference calls where they've mentioned the Bungie IP basically coming in to relieve CoD if that starts to decline YOY like Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk did, etc. MW3 was definitely the tipping point where most of my friends were done with it after a month or two, and we all played MW2 and Blops for a full year until the next release, Activision would be smart to try to get out ahead of that happening rather than running it into the ground until it's long dead like GH/TH, etc.
Visualante2
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talk about cannibalisation, Bungie and 343.
Maybe Bungie still isn't comfortable making the move from single platform development. We're so keen to point the finger at these nasty executives, maybe Bungie dealt with Activision because they let them have this freedom?
Mikey Jr.
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Yeah f off if the ps4 versions get the games 5 years later. Says the first 2 would be exclusive.
Exclusives are good. Timed exclusives or "the first game is exclusive and then the rest are multiplat" are just annoying. It's like you want to read the Harry Potter series, but you can't because the first one was written exclusively in Braille.
HigherLevel
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I'm guessing he's talking about how MW3, despite having initially higher sales than Black Ops, has slowed down considerably faster than BO did over the first 7 or 8 months.
Technosteve
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still have hope that this is a MMORPG for console but this is probably another EHALO
Because it's totally the same people doing the bitching. Jesus. People that complain about Microsoft not having enough exclusives stems from their purging of their first party developers and portfolio. Other people complaining about Bungie's new game being exclusive, at least temporarily, to the Xbox 360 are doing so because they don't have an Xbox 360, or prefer to game on the Playstation 3 or PC, for a number of different reasons. Swear the persecution complex some have on here is sad.
There was talk that Microsoft basically got a perk of first pick access for titles.
That's good and all, but why no PC?
Mama Robotnik
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You know you are right, I'm letting my opinion of Kotick and his unsavoury activities cloud the potential benefits of this agreement to Bungie. Its a fair observation, and they are of course certain to be smarter than me about such things.
I can only offer my naive view - If I was a developer looking for a big partner in the industry, I can't imagine what series of numbers would make the untrustworthy Activision the best option. Hell, EA would probably have been more trustworthy.
Even then, looking at the text of the contract, it seems to suggest intense development of regular predetermined sequential titles as per a strict absolute timetable. Sounds like a recipe for apathy and inflexibility. Perhaps it has been revisited since the original agreement, however.
The Gamesrankings clause is completely absurd though.
Tallshortman
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Hah 360 exclusivity, what a joke given how much money they're likely to put into developing this thing.
NullPointer
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ODST hubs + fleshed out space combat + shooter sounds good to me.
Please be something like this or better Bungie
Didn't the Bungie PR at the time refer to Activision's history of support for large scale online ventures come up? So while this game may not be an MMO I still expect it to be MMO-ish.
Blue Ninja
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It is, check out the contract:
That's it, my hope is lost.
Call of Duty 2 being exclsive to 360 and map packs being timed never seemed to hurt Activision.
Surely just a case of Activision knowing that the Western success of Xbox sits well with the western success of competitive online FPS's.
Exclusivity does build a certain amount of hype in itself, most of the exclusive console titles this gen would of been even bigger retail bombs as multiplatform titles.
ncsuDuncan
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Fascinating. Looks like I have a 27-page pdf to read through.
shinobi602
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That's only true to some extent. There's a link out there somewhere (if someone can find it) that shows MW3 sales on the HD consoles (360/PS3) are better than Black Ops at this point in their respective times. Sales are only less on the other platforms (handhelds, PC, Wii).