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Age of Empires 4 announced, made by Relic (Dawn of War/Homeworld/Company of Heroes)
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Jerry
Member
Then why hire Relic who have never made a game outside of the CoH/DoW style?
relic is capable of doing lot's of things and are especially good at RTS, so... I don't get your argument. Who would you want to make the game?
Proelite
Member
I think there is two directions they can go with AOE4.
Reboot with classic age: Stone age, bronze age, iron age, imperial age. They'll have to be really creative with the game mechanics in order to be unique compared to the AOE DE.
Pre modern age: Colonial to WWI. WWI is the last war where traditional calvary and massed formations still made sense. WWII is too much of a leap forward with mechanized warfare and should be explored perhaps in the sequel. Development wise it's inefficient to develop the mechanics of mechanized naval, aerial, and terrestrial mechanized warfare thatll be explored in a fraction of the time of a fraction of the matches.
Reboot with classic age: Stone age, bronze age, iron age, imperial age. They'll have to be really creative with the game mechanics in order to be unique compared to the AOE DE.
Pre modern age: Colonial to WWI. WWI is the last war where traditional calvary and massed formations still made sense. WWII is too much of a leap forward with mechanized warfare and should be explored perhaps in the sequel. Development wise it's inefficient to develop the mechanics of mechanized naval, aerial, and terrestrial mechanized warfare thatll be explored in a fraction of the time of a fraction of the matches.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
It's kinda funny how Sega became the RTS Publisher by owning Relic and CA (I know Sega isn't the actual publisher of the game)
You want to revive your dormant RTS franchise? Better call Sega.
At this point I'm almost expecting a C&C revival from Creative Assembly
You want to revive your dormant RTS franchise? Better call Sega.
At this point I'm almost expecting a C&C revival from Creative Assembly
No thanks, I would like to enjoy a game without having to buy at least half the DLCs for it.
Hey, Herzog Zwei released on their console and they published the game in NA.
Forerunner
Member
However, it's more RTT than RTS. There is no base building or anything. You purchase units with points and etc. Really good game though!
Yeah
If you want a bigger studio with RTS experience outside of Sega there's.... petroglyph? It's not a very long list. Almost everyone is dead
Edit: there's Blizzard of course.
llien
Member
Sorry, but was AoE ever in the same league as Blizzard's RTSes?
Age of Empires 2 with certainty. It's always been lauded as one of the best RTS games of all time by critics and fans
On metaceitic it even got the same score as Warcraft 3.
I see no problem with the trailer, is explaining all the eras that the game has lived while telling you that a 4th entry is coming. It will be incredible if they are sticking to that old ensemble ad and the game is based in 2 world wars, but I don't know if story wise this eras could led to the same "building an empire" vibe that the first 3 games has.
By the way, does microsoft has anyone from ensemble that has worked on the old games in this project?
Or at least the guys that developed AOE 2 HD?
By the way, does microsoft has anyone from ensemble that has worked on the old games in this project?
Or at least the guys that developed AOE 2 HD?
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Wow, AOE4 from Relic sounds great. Nice announcement.
jipewithin
Member
Hyped!
TheDarkKnight774
Member
With 2 yes
Soulblighter31
Banned
Absolutely, with Age of Empires 2 and later the Conquerors epansion they were in the highest echelon of strategy makers. As fate would have it, Age of Mythology and Warcraft 3 came out at about the same time. One local magazine had the beggining of the article something like the rts empire is dominated by the two rival houses, Ensemble and Blizzard. Age of Empires is a series that sold tens of millions of copies. Age of Empires is in the elite with the likes of Command&Conquer or Starcraft
GrimmGrinn
Member
Hm... Relic...
Cautiously optimistic
Cautiously optimistic
dragonelite
Member
this... Relic and Microsoft can't fuck this release up the pc gaming community would torch them...
This must be by far the biggest exclusive that the W10 could ever had, I'm impressed by how mainstream the game is.
Sadly, I doubt that they will improve the store to make it easy for casuals (or hardcores) but well, I don't really mind the store, so is a day 1 purchase for me
Sadly, I doubt that they will improve the store to make it easy for casuals (or hardcores) but well, I don't really mind the store, so is a day 1 purchase for me
CrocMother
Banned
AoE 3 already lowered the bar considerably
AOE3 has lots of things that I loved
-The graphics are gorgeous, even today. Everything looked so big and detailed, and it was cool to see more differences between the units of the civilizations. Also the physics of the game blowed my mind back then. Also the unique units felt cooler than ever, specially those bigs cannons of the ottomans, or the british red jackets
-The upgraded evolution of eras was awesome.
-I loved the deck system, and it was super cool to see the biggest port/capital of each empire, even the native americans ones which were little settlements were cool to see.
-I liked the campaign of the first game, never played the campaigns of the expansions though
-The graphics are gorgeous, even today. Everything looked so big and detailed, and it was cool to see more differences between the units of the civilizations. Also the physics of the game blowed my mind back then. Also the unique units felt cooler than ever, specially those bigs cannons of the ottomans, or the british red jackets
-The upgraded evolution of eras was awesome.
-I loved the deck system, and it was super cool to see the biggest port/capital of each empire, even the native americans ones which were little settlements were cool to see.
-I liked the campaign of the first game, never played the campaigns of the expansions though
LordBaztion
Member
Back them I enjoyed more AoE3 than 2, it is more accesible and varied. There is ton of variety for every civilization but, later I'll realize they took away too much of the strategy appeal of 2, like base building, walling and that feeling of equality the second has.
I could watch those cannon shots all day.
I could watch those cannon shots all day.
Teknopathetic
Member
AOE3 is only criticized because of its differences from AOE2. I've seen very few people attempt to make a solid argument as to how those differences make AOE3 *worse* than AOE2 and not simply different.
Serpens007
Member
I really like AOE3
I've been playing it LTTP since last year, and I think it is pretty good. I only have War Chiefs expansion, but still haven't played it lol
Though I've played AOE2HD more anyway, but both are great.
EDIT: Has someone recieved an e-mail for the AOE DE beta? Trailer said it started today.
I've been playing it LTTP since last year, and I think it is pretty good. I only have War Chiefs expansion, but still haven't played it lol
Though I've played AOE2HD more anyway, but both are great.
EDIT: Has someone recieved an e-mail for the AOE DE beta? Trailer said it started today.
LukasTaves
Member
That doesn't bother me in the slightest. Quite the opposite actually, I think it's a very good thing for them to bring their games to the store, I just wished it was all games already (even those without proper uwp ports).
It's just one game that I really wanted to play, and I don't really like to game on pc, unless I absolutely have to.
Not if they design the game for the mouse+keyboard first, and then try to make it work with a controller.
Even if they launch first at PC because of that. It wouldn't hurt to say: We are focusing on PC first to deliver a first class citizen age experience, but we are definitely bringing it to xbox afterwards.
Everyone would be happy, and I don't think not even the xbox owners would complain about waiting a little longer knowing that the game is coming.
manfestival
Member
I would be ok with this. Total warhammer(and most of the total war games) is fantastic
Aangster
Member
Can't forget unit production stacking (up to 5) too, such a convenience. Would recommend checking out the expansion campaigns, particularly Asian Dynasties if you're a fan of campaigns more rooted to history.
In my experience, that's never ever how it happens for games envisioned from the start to also appear on consoles. (See Diablo 3 for a high-profile example)
Soulblighter31
Banned
Yep. The last great RTS developer. We should be pretty happy.
This is how I feel as well. It isn't AoK, but is still a damn fine RTS on its own right, and I've never heard much of an argument other than it's not more AoK.
And the Relic hate, their faults recently have been in trying to combine their early RTS efforts that are more classic RTS (eg AoE/C&C/Starcraft base building) with the more modern take on RTS that's about tactics over unit and bases. I feel they can separate those two without much issue
RedSparrows
Member
However, it's more RTT than RTS. There is no base building or anything. You purchase units with points and etc. Really good game though!
Isn't that Eugen, and published by Paradox?
Eugen are great. I loved RUSE so much, and the Wargames (I think: EE and AirLand Battle etc) were good too.
TheVoidDragon
Member
Their 2 most recent games have had pretty significant flaws though, especially Dawn of War 3 which it seems a massive amount of people considered to just be the complete wrong direction for the series and them not really getting what people liked about the previous 2 games.
Damn straight. Age of Empires 3 is fantastic. Cannons are a bit OP, but then again that's more a nod to realism then anything.
Their loss. The game is impeccable though.
StrategyFan
Member
peak ensemble was better than peak blizzard
blizzard made lower-spec games, so ensemble ones had better pathfinding, UI, graphics, etc.
and in terms of game design, random maps are a tier above static ones
Proelite
Member
Red Alert, AOE, Warcraft n StarCraft are the 4 great classic series of RTSes.
To me personally Blizzard RTS
and their games in general
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