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Opinion (*) Ali Salehi, a rendering engineer at Crytek contrasts the next Gen consoles in interview (Up: Tweets/Article removed)

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he was not on point. Lol. Just look at cyberpunk 2077, how much different it plays on XSX. Far superior and basically running a different version.
We also have several games that run at 120fps on XSX compared to 60FPS on PS5.

Didn't I explain all this to you just yesterday in a different thread? I even shared Digital Foundry's quotes that countered your argument. You ran away from that thread and stopped replying to me.

Now you're spreading the same FUD and BS in another thread. What's wrong with you?
 
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Cyberjunk doesn’t have PS5 or SX version of the game. It’s running in backwards compatibility mode with a small performance increase. Meaning PS5 and SX are playing the PS4 pro and XB1X version of the game.
This is not strictly true. Something DF noted in their more recent video is that, for example, the Series S "version" of Cyberpunk has ambient occlusion, which neither the One S nor One X versions have AFAIK. They appear to be adjusting settings on a per platform basis, even though they haven't built them as proper gen 9 titles yet.

Anyway, more on topic, Crytek themselves will be releasing a PS5/Xbox Series update for Crysis: Remastered in the near future, and I'm assuming that Crysis 2 Remastered and Crysis 3 Remastered will be enhanced for the new platforms out of the box. It will be interesting to see how the various versions stack up.

Crytek have always found themselves in the unfortunate position of being console war fodder. GPU vendor war fodder, too, since AMD GPUs have a historic tendency to run worse on CryEngine titles, including third party titles such as Prey 2017.
 
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Didn't I explain all this to you just yesterday in a different thread? I even shared Digital Foundry's quotes that countered your argument. You ran away from that thread and stopped replying to me.

Now you're spreading the same FUD and BS in another thread. What's wrong with you?
He is coping with denial and bargaining phase of grieve. For one year he was saying how xsx will crush ps5 but to wake up to this reality where 95% of games run better on ps5 is like a nightmare for him 😅
 

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Didn't I explain all this to you just yesterday in a different thread? I even shared Digital Foundry's quotes that countered your argument. You ran away from that thread and stopped replying to me.

Now you're spreading the same FUD and BS in another thread. What's wrong with you?

I do not think he wants to argue, just leaving his points for people to read /influence opinion/astroturfing seems more likely if that is a pattern. In that case ignoring is actually a win for them as they get no counter to what they say.
 
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So now it's frequencies that's the secret sauce and MS's Direct X is a hinderence to the console. And raw power is meaningless.

This reminds me of the devs in 2013 that were downplaying the PS4s power advantage over XB1.

There is also no doubt that Crytek is not happy with MS after they all most went bankrupt and big reason for that was due to the poor sells of Ryse. And the fued MS and Crytek had over the ip

Meltdowns? No. Some devs will have different views and preferences. But the XSX power advantage is known and common knowledge. And I haven't to bet many devs would disagree with the unknown devs opinion to say the least.

Yet another attempt of desperate sony fanboys to downplay the power advantage narrative to make themselves feel a bit better. In the end, you guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment when the DF head to head comes in and the XSX wins the majority with significantly better RT, higher resolutions at higher settings etc

And it's even more sad that you have a few hardcore sony fanboys doing the translations

Lol
 

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This is not strictly true. Something DF noted in their more recent video is that, for example, the Series S "version" of Cyberpunk has ambient occlusion, which neither the One S nor One X versions have AFAIK. They appear to be adjusting settings on a per platform basis, even though they haven't built them as proper gen 9 titles yet.


They’re pro and 1x versions with a few enhancements. Same difference of what I already said.

The fact that PS5 is regulated to only running the game a 60fps is CDproject showing favoritism to MS.
 

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I've been a member for more than 20 years, when Neogaf was only GAF. I have lived the launch of PS2, GC, the original Xbox, PS3, 360, Wii, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One, Switch, PS5 and XSX on this same forums and I've never seen so much blatant trolling and superiority from PS fans as nowadays.
It's the main reason I've reduced my time lurking the forums.

And that's mainly because of the insanely big mouths Xbox fans had this year with all the power talk and whatnot. They're getting a big dose of karma served. So yeah. Stay humble and this happens less.
 
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he was not on point. Lol. Just look at cyberpunk 2077, how much different it plays on XSX. Far superior and basically running a different version.
We also have several games that run at 120fps on XSX compared to 60FPS on PS5.
No matter how much some want it to be, this is really not a good point, and not a hill to die on.
 

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Thats how he can cope with this situation . Xsx is more powerful than ps4 pro is all that matters to him 😅😅

Releasing a Xbox console a year after Playstation with a bigger price is the only way MS can beat Sony in terms of Power, when it comes to simultaneous release with same price Sony is unbeatable as we seen it many times already.

And let's not even start talking about the great exclusives games battle.
 
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Releasing a Xbox console a year after Playstation with a bigger price is the only way MS can beat Sony in terms of Power, when it comes to simultaneous release with same price Sony is unbeatable as we seen it many times already.

And let's not even start talking about the great exclusives games battle.
It's similar performance at $100 less. The PS5 DE is $399
 
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It went from "wait for the real next gen games, cross gen games don't count" to "but Cyberpunk 2077" real quick.


It also went from “cross gen games will hold everything back “ to cross gen games are the measure of the next gen systems and that they have already maxed the series x.

Idiots everywhere unfortunately.
 

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And that's mainly because of the insanely big mouths Xbox fans had this year with all the power talk and whatnot. They're getting a big dose of karma served. So yeah. Stay humble and this happens less.
We believe in generations it works both ways. Nice try to single out one side being humble and the other being big mouths.
 

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It also went from “cross gen games will hold everything back “ to cross gen games are the measure of the next gen systems and that they have already maxed the series x.

Idiots everywhere unfortunately.
I've not seen many saying that the Series X is maxed. I've seen people say that the Series X gains will be at least partly negated since the PS5's tooling will improve over time as well, OR people mocking Xbox dudes who insisted the power gap would be massive right out of the gate and "only grow wider from there", but no one saying the Series X has hit its absolute limit.

And people are still not happy with cross-gen games holding things back, man.
 
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We believe in generations it works both ways. Nice try to single out one side being humble and the other being big mouths.
See, the funny thing is, that quote still holds true? There ARE certain games on the PS5 being made for it and it alone. Ratchet & Clank, Demon's Souls, apparently GT7 if the text in that teaser was anything to go by... There are generational exclusives. It's just not gonna be every game like some hoped.
 

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We believe in generations it works both ways. Nice try to single out one side being humble and the other being big mouths.

Who's talking about sides? I was one of the first dudes calling Jim Ryan an asshole when he said Miles and Horizon were also coming to PS4. Still sucks.
 
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See, the funny thing is, that quote still holds true? There ARE certain games on the PS5 being made for it and it alone. Ratchet & Clank, Demon's Souls, apparently GT7 if the text in that teaser was anything to go by... There are generational exclusives. It's just not gonna be every game like some hoped.
Did not stop certain fans from trashing Microsoft for being evil and holding back gaming because of cross generation games. Sony was the good guys for moving games forward with real nextgen games like horizon 2 and spider man miles. When and how did Sony announce cross generation again 5 minutes before pre orders in a blog lol. They hid those cross generation versions for 6 months
 

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It also went from “cross gen games will hold everything back “ to cross gen games are the measure of the next gen systems and that they have already maxed the series x.

Idiots everywhere unfortunately.

Really, who says that?

The failed argument here from Xbox fans is that only Series X will improve and surpass PS5 (from -10% to the promised and fabled +30%), while PS5's performance will be stagnant.
 

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Did not stop certain fans from trashing Microsoft for being evil and holding back gaming because of cross generation games. Sony was the good guys for moving games forward with real nextgen games like horizon 2 and spider man miles. When and how did Sony announce cross generation again 5 minutes before pre orders in a blog lol. They hid those cross generation versions for 6 months
Oh some def have a foot in their mouth for sure, but they're still pissed at Sony for what they view as a broken promise. That same energy has been kept.

And make no mistake, that WILL hold back game design.
 

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Really, who says that?

The failed argument here from Xbox fans is that only Series X will improve and surpass PS5 (from -10% to the promised and fabled +30%), while PS5's performance will be stagnant.
You should open your eyes a little more in the comparison threads. I could even name a few.


I can’t say that I have seen anyone talking about 30% better than the ps5 though. Not on here for a long time if ever.
 
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You should open your eyes a little more in the comparison threads. I could even name a few.


I can’t say that I have seen anyone talking about 30% better than the ps5 though. Not on here for a long time if ever.

Oh c’mon they have stopped, but the 18% gap being the minimum was a popular talking point shared around (Variable Clocks vs Sustained, CPU uplift, memory bandwidth, massive extra real RT performance, SFS offering 2-3x the I/O bandwidth and memory storage multiplier over PRT/Tiled Resources, etc...).

Of course people have stopped pushing that else how can they call a single digits percent victory as “BEAST!!! BESTWAYTOPLAY!!!!” ;).
 
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Oh c’mon they have stopped, but the 18% gap being the minimum was a popular talking point shared around (Variable Clocks vs Sustained, CPU uplift, memory bandwidth, massive extra real RT performance, SFS offering 2-3x the I/O bandwidth and memory storage multiplier over PRT/Tiled Resources, etc...).

Of course people have stopped pushing that else how can they call a single digits percent victory as “BEAST!!! BESTWAYTOPLAY!!!!” ;).
I said it earlier. Idiots everywhere. Nothing excuses both sides. But seeing as you want to focus on that, you should also remember how teraflops were vitally important when Andrew Reiner said that the ps5 had 13 of them.

It has become a circus of stupidity, flip flopping and changing narratives.
 

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I said it earlier. Idiots everywhere. Nothing excuses both sides. But seeing as you want to focus on that, you should also remember how teraflops were vitally important when Andrew Reiner said that the ps5 had 13 of them.

It has become a circus of stupidity, flip flopping and changing narratives.

Yep, stupidity abounds, but let’s not try to present a false equivalence when one side was beating under a drum of “No power greater than...” since the original Xbox... I saw plenty more people accepting a gap in favour of XSX than otherwise in the blue camp.
 
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Didn't I explain all this to you just yesterday in a different thread? I even shared Digital Foundry's quotes that countered your argument. You ran away from that thread and stopped replying to me.

Now you're spreading the same FUD and BS in another thread. What's wrong with you?
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