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All Last-Gen 32/64-Bit U.S. J.RPG Sales (SAT, PSX, N64)

S

Square2005

Banned
IT IS COMPLETE!!

Okay so what do the comments and accuracy mean?
Comments:
Final - it's done selling and these are the Life-time total
Missing some minor mos. - usually missing Feb/Mar '02 and/or some mos. in 2003 but not a big deal since little was selling by then.
LTD - still selling - life-to-date and still selling this year; not final.
Accuracy:
Projected - means the nos. have since bin revised since my data was compiled thus I revised them as close as I could to the newer data (but still may be off by a few hundred or a thousand. I used the same method for the 16-bit RPG sales).
Actual - means these are the exact NPD raw newer/revised sales and have no need for adjusting.

Code: 
[B][U]PSX[/U][/B]	 			[U]NPD+[/U] 	 [U]Comments[/U]		[U]Accuracy[/U]
Alundra	 			103,909 	 Final			Projected
Alundra II	 			123,001 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Arc the Lad Collection		                60,965 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Azure Dreams	 		60,752 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Beyond the Beyond	 	                91,167 	 Final			Projected
Breath of Fire III	 		230,413 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Breath of Fire IV	 		102,331     Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Brigandine: Legend of Forsena	                41,649 	 Final			Projected
Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon 2	                35,979 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Chrono Cross	 		606,900 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Dragon Warrior VII	 		181,833 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Dragon Valor	 		33,372 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Final Fantasy Anthology	 	480,873 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Final Fantasy Chronicles	 	375,384 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Final Fantasy IX	 		1,455,046   LTD - still selling		Actual
Final Fantasy Origins	 	                272,369 	 Missing 2nd & 3rd mos.	Actual
Final Fantasy Tactics	 	                899,223 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Final Fantasy VII	 		2,729,882   LTD - still selling		Actual
Final Fantasy VIII	 		2,061,689   LTD - still selling		Actual
Front Mission III	 		87,845 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Grandia	 			114,116 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Granstream Saga	 		64,433 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Guardian's Crusade	 	                55,931 	 Final			Projected
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth	                33,307 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Jade Cocoon	 		121,530 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Kartia: The World of Fate	 	40,568 	 Final			Projected
Koudelka	 			40,764 	 Final			Actual
Legend of Dragoon	 		940,992 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Legend of Legaia	 		300,628 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Legend of Mana	 		154,524 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete	222,090 	 Final			Actual
Lunar II: Eternal Blue Complete	                162,105 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Ogre Battle Limited	 	                47,655 	 Final			Projected
Parasite Eve	 		774,082 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Parasite Eve II	 		265,586 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Persona: Revelations			36,229	 Final (found under Revelations)  Projected
Persona II: Eternal Punishment	                23,558 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure	                20,818 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
SaGa Frontier	 		124,272 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
SaGa Frontier II	 		86,412 	 LTD - still selling		Projected
Saiyuki: Journey West	 	23,215 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Shadow Madness	 		81,821 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Star Ocean: The Second Story	                232,541 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Suikoden	 			169,804 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Suikoden II	 		123,360 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Tactics Ogre	 		16,940 	 Final			Projected
Tales of Destiny	 		70,813 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Tales of Destiny II	 		55,933 	 Final			Actual
Thousand Arms	 		53,386  	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Threads of Fate	 		102,778 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Vagrant Story	 		222,764 	 LTD - still selling		Actual
Valkyrie Profile	 		61,039 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Vandal Hearts	 		111,028 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Vandal Hearts II	 		47,007 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Vanguard Bandits	 		32,011 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Wild Arms	 		                210,711 	 Final			Projected
Wild Arms II	 		148,831 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Xenogears	 		                245,375 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
[B][U]SAT[/U][/B]			
Albert Odyssey	 		25,686 	 Final	Projected
Dark Savior	 		28,539 	 Final	Projected
Dragon Force	 		37,561 	 Final	Projected
Guardian Heroes	 		35,084 	 Final	Projected
Legends of Oasis	 		23,877 	 Final	Projected
Magic Knight Rayearth	 	12,546 	 Final	Projected
Mystaria: The Realms of Lore	                16,065 	 Final	Projected
Panzer Dragoon Saga	 	                17,722 	 Final	Projected
Shining Force III Scenario 1	 	21,101 	 Final	Projected
Shining the Holy Ark	 	                26,413 	 Final	Projected
Shining Wisdom	 		15,796 	 Final	Projected
[B][U]N64[/U][/B]			
Hybrid Heaven	 		131,070 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask	                1,632,942   Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time	3,665,899   Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Ogre Battle 64	 		76,529 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected
Paper Mario	 		513,007 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Pokemon Stadium	 		2,504,145   Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Pokemon Stadium II	 	                875,631 	 Missing some minor mos.	Actual
Quest 64	 			332,831 	 Missing some minor mos.	Projected

Phew...this took a-lot of work so please enjoy:).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115319 < link to 16-Bit (post-'93) J.RPG sales chart
 
T

Tabris

Member
I would also like to add in that Pokemon does not count, and if it does, you have to add in all the other stupid monster training games from PSX like Monster Rancher.
 
S

Square2005

Banned
Tabris said:
I would also like to add in that Pokemon does not count, and if it does, you have to add in all the other stupid monster training games from PSX like Monster Rancher.
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I agree Zelda & monster-training games aren't RPGs but this the list ethelred put together for me to look up. If you have a problem w/ what's included take it out on ethelred.
 
C

cvxfreak

Member
Tabris said:
I would also like to add in that Pokemon does not count, and if it does, you have to add in all the other stupid monster training games from PSX like Monster Rancher.
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Not Stadium, no.

I'd like to see the final totals for the GB games. Can you tell us, Square2005?
 
L

lyre

Member
How can Suikoden 2 and Valkyrie Profile have higher resale mark-ups than Persona 2 when both games outsold the latter by 3 and 6:1 (even before the reprint)!? And the Tactics Ogre port sells the least with 16k ... teh mind boggles ....
 
S

Square2005

Banned
SonicMegaDrive said:
Cool.

Do they still print those old PS1 Square RPGs or something? I still find them new now and again.
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If it says 'LTD - still selling' then they are still available in some stores- new.
 
L

LevelNth

Banned
Square2005 said:
Parasite Eve -- 774,082
Parasite Eve II -- 265,586
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Man, those are good numbers, even for the sequel (which wasn't received as well and released just a month before the PS2); both probably did over a million worldwide. I really wish SE would make a PE3 for the PS3, and hopefully more in the vein of the first game.
 
L

LanceStern

Banned
It's not good numbers for the sequel to sell less than half of the original, whether good or bad in terms of gameplay, especially if that "less than half" is less than 250,000 on a system with a 40 million userbase.

ANYWAYS.....

where's Aidyn Chronicles (THQ) for the N64?

Thank you for compiling this data btw. It's great to see these numbers. Zelda was bigger than FF in the US = Excellent!

Plus Paper Mario for GCN has OWNED Paper Mario for N64 and it makes me happy to know that.
 
K

Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
Lovely data, thanks a lot :)

Square stuff does amazing as usual...really resembles this gen situation. What a f*cking shame Namco Hometek can't handle games, thats asking too much for them, burn in hell and such.

Makes me wonder how will FFXII do...FFX clearly resembles FFVII, now...will FFXII resemble VIII (2m) or IX (1.5m). Uhm...I hope VIII levels!


As someone said in another thread, what a f*cking shame Square wasted all their great selling franchises in SNES and PSX. That FF movie hurt Square more than we thought....
 
K

kenta

Has no PEINS
Argh Vagrant Story sold better than a lot of other SE games that have since received sequels :mad:

Please make VS-2 next Matsuno :(
 
K

Kevtones

Member
I guess this helps quiet the people who claim PDS only had 5,000 copies printed :lol

BTW Suikoden/II sold pretty well.
I'm pretty sure Persona: Revelations sold horribly despite its ROCKING cover art.
Ogre Battle 64 did alright although as the only strat RPG on a system I guess it would've done better had it been released sooner.
 
A

Ash Sparrow

Banned
Is there a thread for how much these games sold in Japan?

And yeah Sega only pressed 5000 copies of PDS, but demand forced two more pressings if i remember correctly.
 
G

Greenpanda

Banned
How can we live in a world where Alundra 2 sold that many copies :( :(

Anyway, great info., thanks for the thread

Also, I can't see that there's any reasonable definition of "RPG" under which Pokemon wouldn't be considered an RPG.
 
J

jarrod

Banned
Kevtones said:
Ogre Battle 64 did alright although as the only strat RPG on a system I guess it would've done better had it been released sooner.
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It was also an Atlus game, which generally means rather limited print runs.
 
G

Greenpanda

Banned
Wyndstryker said:
You're joking me...this game sold that much o_O
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I remember it being released during the summer, when there was pretty much nothing else coming out -- that always help. (See also: Tales of Symphonia, Disgaea...)
 
C

Cheerilee

Member
ivysaur12 said:
WTF is wrong with you people? How does Quest 64 sell over 300k and how does LoD sell almost a million copies?
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Quest 64 = RPG starved Nintendo fans.

Legend of the Dragoon = Sony published. Massive ad campaign. There were ads for it on television for months after it came out. It also had a "Greatest Hits" reprinting.
 
A

AniHawk

Member
Alundra 103,909 Final Projected
Breath of Fire III 230,413 Missing some minor mos. Actual
Breath of Fire IV
Chrono Cross 606,900 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy Anthology 480,873 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy Chronicles 375,384 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy IX 1,455,046 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy Origins 272,369 Missing 2nd & 3rd mos. Actual
Final Fantasy Tactics 899,223 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy VII 2,729,882 LTD - still selling Actual
Final Fantasy VIII 2,061,689 LTD - still selling Actual
Grandia 114,116 Missing some minor mos. Projected
Lunar II: Eternal Blue Complete 162,105 Missing some minor mos.
Persona II: Eternal Punishment 23,558 Missing some minor mos.
Tales of Destiny 70,813 Missing some minor mos. Projected
Tales of Destiny II 55,933 Final Actual
Vagrant Story 222,764 LTD - still selling Actual
Wild Arms II 148,831 Missing some minor mos. Actual
Xenogears 245,375 Missing some minor mos. Actual
Hybrid Heaven
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 1,632,942 Missing some minor mos. Actual
Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time 3,665,899 Missing some minor mos. Projected
Paper Mario 513,007 Missing some minor mos. Actual
Pokemon Stadium 2,504,145 Missing some minor mos. Actual
 
C

ccbfan

Member
ruby_onix said:
Quest 64 = RPG starved Nintendo fans.

Legend of the Dragoon = Sony published. Massive ad campaign. There were ads for it on television for months after it came out. It also had a "Greatest Hits" reprinting.
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Oh God don't remind of the rpg fan nightmare known as the N64.

Most of the game on that N64 list isn't even jrpgs.

N64 really only had

Quest 64, Ogre Battle 64, and Paper Mario. Ogre battle was more of a tactical RPG and Paper Mario was sort of a whole new type of rpg. So all we had left was Quest 64. God that sucked.

Also freakin like 10 stores in my neighborhood are still selling Legend of the Dragoon for 9.99. Everytime I go though it seems like 0 copies sold. I remember the advertising for this game. I don't think I've ever seen more comercials for a game.
 
B

BobbyRobby

Member
Cool thread. Neat because it is pretty much all the games I bought last gen.

Alundra 2, Legaia, Dragoon, Wild Arms 2, Grandia, and I think Star Ocean were all published by Sony. That would explain the unusually high numbers. Though Star Ocean deserved them.

Those numbers for Hybrid Heaven and Quest 64 makes me think more RPGs could have been successful on the N64 if developers gave it a chance. In Japan, they probably would have sorld horribly though.
 
T

trancejeremy

Banned
What about Eternal Eyes, for the PS1? Very late released tactical RPG (after PS2 came out) for PS1 which I think sold for $9.99 new (from Crave).

Not that I actually care (though I do own it), just mentioning for sake of completeness.
 
P

PC Gaijin

Member
Sheesh, those Saturn numbers sure put SoA's RPG stance in perspective. All that angst over "Stolar giving WD the finger" seems much ado about nothing in retrospect too. How many hardcore RPG fans could there have been on the Saturn? Ten or twenty thousand, maybe?
 
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