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Analyst: Game industry to shrink in 2006

Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter revises projections, expects a transitional slump before pronounced growth in 2007 and 2008.

It's barely a month into 2006 and clouds are already gathering in the gaming industry's financial forecast for the year.

In a note to investors titled "Flirting with Disaster: The Prequel," Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter revised his projections for the gaming industry's next three years, saying the firm's previous projection of steady growth is out the window. Instead, Pachter expects combined software sales for the US and Europe to decline 3 percent over the course of 2006 as a result of the market's transition to next-generation consoles.

Pachter notes that during the three-month period leading up to the heavily anticipated November 22 Xbox 360 launch, console and PC software sales in the US were down 21.6 percent. Believing that consumers were holding off on making current-generation purchases in favor of waiting for next-gen products, Pachter thinks it's a trend that could repeat itself, specifically when Sony announces a launch date for the PlayStation 3. Currently Pachter expects that system to arrive in October, meaning the industry's transitional slump could last until late 2006. Pachter didn't pin a date on the Revolution's launch, but did say its 2006 software sales were expected to be about the same as the PS3's, so he still expects it this year.

However, the good news is that once the Xbox 360, PS3, and Revolution have established their user bases, Pachter expects pronounced growth in 2007 and 2008, so much so that the industry will end the next three years up almost 32 percent. That was above his previous predictions of a 29 percent increase from 2005 to 2008.

Gamers can also expect another round of price cuts, according to Pachter's note. He projected 2006 price drops for the redesigned PlayStation 2 (with $129 and $99 floated as two possible price points) and the Game Boy Advance SP (from $79 to $59). Pachter said the Sony PSP and Nintendo DS should also fall in price, although he gave no projection as to how substantial those cuts would be.
 
sonycowboy said:
Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter revises projections, expects a transitional slump before pronounced growth in 2007 and 2008.

It's barely a month into 2006 and clouds are already gathering in the gaming industry's financial forecast for the year.

In a note to investors titled "Flirting with Disaster: The Prequel," Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter revised his projections for the gaming industry's next three years, saying the firm's previous projection of steady growth is out the window. Instead, Pachter expects combined software sales for the US and Europe to decline 3 percent over the course of 2006 as a result of the market's transition to next-generation consoles.

Pachter notes that during the three-month period leading up to the heavily anticipated November 22 Xbox 360 launch, console and PC software sales in the US were down 21.6 percent. Believing that consumers were holding off on making current-generation purchases in favor of waiting for next-gen products, Pachter thinks it's a trend that could repeat itself, specifically when Sony announces a launch date for the PlayStation 3. Currently Pachter expects that system to arrive in October, meaning the industry's transitional slump could last until late 2006. Pachter didn't pin a date on the Revolution's launch, but did say its 2006 software sales were expected to be about the same as the PS3's, so he still expects it this year.

However, the good news is that once the Xbox 360, PS3, and Revolution have established their user bases, Pachter expects pronounced growth in 2007 and 2008, so much so that the industry will end the next three years up almost 32 percent. That was above his previous predictions of a 29 percent increase from 2005 to 2008.

Gamers can also expect another round of price cuts, according to Pachter's note. He projected 2006 price drops for the redesigned PlayStation 2 (with $129 and $99 floated as two possible price points) and the Game Boy Advance SP (from $79 to $59). Pachter said the Sony PSP and Nintendo DS should also fall in price, although he gave no projection as to how substantial those cuts would be.

Tell that to Nintendo.

Sony and MS may shrink. But Nintendo is expanding. :lol
 
I think Michael Pachter's wee wee will shrink...

Ba-bump-ta! But seriously folks. :)

Sounds reasonable to me. I know that I cut down on my game purchases a lot once we hit the launch horizon for the 360. I expect the same for the PS3.
 
Nintendo Rev could just as easily flop, don't be so optimistic.


Why does everyone seem to think Nintendo is going to take over the industry again? Not going to happen.
 
Sapienshomo said:
Nintendo Rev could just as easily flop, don't be so optimistic.


Why does everyone seem to think Nintendo is going to take over the industry again? Not going to happen.

In this industry there are NO guarantees -- no matter if you are Sony, Nintendo or MS.
 
Sapienshomo said:
Nintendo Rev could just as easily flop, don't be so optimistic.


Why does everyone seem to think Nintendo is going to take over the industry again? Not going to happen.

They sold ~13-14M DS' in 12 months!

If that's not a sign that (most particularly) in Japan that folks want something different, I don't know what it. And what console system do you think those ~13-14M people will lean towards buying? It's akin to Apple using iPods to sell Macs.

I'm getting more and more bullish on Nintendo's chances next gen every week (via MediaCreate's absolutely insane numbers)
 
another crystal-ball gazer: "I see 2009, I see a 28.7% growth in the industry". Can anyone dig up any "analyst" predictions from 2002?
 
mj1108 said:
In this industry there are NO guarantees -- no matter if you are Sony, Nintendo or MS.

Sony is poised to break console videogame history with a tripple dominance (PSX,PS2,PS3). Nintendo's streak ended with the SNES (2 hardware generations).
 
Sounds absolutely reasonable. For Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox hardware there is no other way but to sell less in 2006 than in 2005 (especially for Xbox) and besides Zelda there don't seem to be many blockblusters for GCN/PS2/Xbx.
 
Frankfurter said:
...besides Zelda there don't seem to be many blockblusters for GCN/PS2/Xbx.
FFxii, Okami, or Valkyrie Profile 2 ring a bell? There's also another GTA and hopefully Ryoga Go Gotaku.
 
CO_Andy said:
FFxii, Okami, or Valkyrie Profile 2 ring a bell? There's also another GTA and hopefully Ryoga Go Gotaku.

So why did everyone say that Zelda wouldn't make a big impact because of the launch of the PS3 and Rev and the second generation of X360 titles, yet these five titles, you should also include Phantasy Star too, will suddenly be any different?
 
monchi-kun said:
Sony is poised to break console videogame history with a tripple dominance (PSX,PS2,PS3). Nintendo's streak ended with the SNES (2 hardware generations).
Give yourself a pat on the back, son. That was truly moving.
 
Nintendo did quite well with the N64 still.

A good majority of the top sellers that generation were on N64. Infact, didn't Nintendo sell better software wise on N64 than SNES?

It wasn't until this generation where they truly lost for consoles.
 
Tabris said:
Nintendo did quite well with the N64 still.

A good majority of the top sellers that generation were on N64. Infact, didn't Nintendo sell better software wise on N64 than SNES?

It wasn't until this generation where they truly lost for consoles.

Yep. Someone made a list a while back that said the N64 sold over 120 million software units (Nintendo published), even more than they sold for SNES! (about 80-90 million)
 
sonycowboy said:
They sold ~13-14M DS' in 12 months!

If that's not a sign that (most particularly) in Japan that folks want something different, I don't know what it. And what console system do you think those ~13-14M people will lean towards buying? It's akin to Apple using iPods to sell Macs.

I'm getting more and more bullish on Nintendo's chances next gen every week (via MediaCreate's absolutely insane numbers)

And?

Nintendo sold 18 million GBA's between the launch in June 2001 and the end of their fiscal year, March 31, 2002, which included just one holiday season. How exactly did the GameCube do again?

History is not going to change.
 
Odysseus said:
And?

Nintendo sold 18 million GBA's between the launch in June 2001 and the end of their fiscal year, March 31, 2002, which included just one holiday season. How exactly did the GameCube do again?

History is not going to change.

Just like when people were expecting Sony killing off Nintendo and throwing it's corpse in the river with the PSP only because of the "Playstation" brand.
 
mj1108 said:
Just like when people were expecting Sony killing off Nintendo and throwing it's corpse in the river with the PSP only because of the "Playstation" brand.

If Sony actually tried to cater to the handheld market that was already there instead of carving a new one, perhaps that would have happened. Perhaps not. All I am saying is that Nintendo's DS performance is no more impressive than their GBA performance, and that had nothing at all relevant to say about the GameCube. People trying to put forth the notion that DS is some type of magical predictor that people want something new and will therefore flock to Revolution are just smoking crack.

Er, in my opinion.
 
Man, such a bulshit prediction.
We have the 360 which should sell well once the production problems are gone, the PSP which should be selling decently, the DS which will continue to go at it like here is no tommorow, and on top of that we will get highly anticipated PS2(FFXII) and Gamecube(Zelda) games in addition two two more highly anticipated launches with sell outs expected for both(PS3 and Rev off course).

Under these conditions predicting a slump is seriously retarded.
 
mj1108 said:
Just like when people were expecting Sony killing off Nintendo and throwing it's corpse in the river with the PSP only because of the "Playstation" brand.

Well, it is a strange thing. DS is on fire, but the PSP is also doing amazing numbers as well at the same time.

I think many of us underestimated Nintendos pull on the handheld market. Just like I think people are now underestimating Sonys hold on the console market.
 
Wow...already so many prominant things said by some of you. Instead of touching them and starting WWIII, I'm just gonna say a couple of things:
-He who controls Japan, controls the world (in gaming)...that's about the only sure thing the history of gaming (from NES on) has shown
-NDS is the fastest selling Nintendo product ever in Japan
-top selling software charts in Japan are pretty much NDS vs PS2, that's not even something the GBA has done with all of it's popularity
-PSP was expected to be a nail in Nintendo's coffin & NDS was suppossed to be VB2
-NDS is not seen as the successor to the GBA...alot of people, gamers even, don't even know much about it despite it's success, what happens when they do?
-there's tons of signs that show that there is a non-gamer audience and Nintendo is tapping it
-Japan is not the only major territory where NDS is doing well
 
Gamers can also expect another round of price cuts, according to Pachter's note. He projected 2006 price drops for the redesigned PlayStation 2 (with $129 and $99 floated as two possible price points) and the Game Boy Advance SP (from $79 to $59). Pachter said the Sony PSP and Nintendo DS should also fall in price, although he gave no projection as to how substantial those cuts would be.

WOW... I never knew that!

I want to be an analyst
 
Hajiki said:
Man, such a bulshit prediction.
We have the 360 which should sell well once the production problems are gone, the PSP which should be selling decently, the DS which will continue to go at it like here is no tommorow, and on top of that we will get highly anticipated PS2(FFXII) and Gamecube(Zelda) games in addition two two more highly anticipated launches with sell outs expected for both(PS3 and Rev off course).

Under these conditions predicting a slump is seriously retarded.

We're also not seeing new installments in the biggest franchises until 2007. Look at how many games were sold in the fall of 2004. Look at how many games were sold in the fall of 2005. The lack of games with a blockbuster anticipation level (besides maybe Zelda, which says nothing of software on the next-gen systems) and the fact that the user bases need to be built going into 2007 doesn't make this guy's prediction seriously retarded, it makes it seriously obvious. Worthy of a cover story on my favorite non-existent periodical, "Duh!" Magazine.
 
Its a fucking transition year jesus what a fucking retard.
THIS JUST IN 2007 WILL BE DISSAPOINTING TOO, but analyst expect a 14% growth from 2006!
 
Good freakin' gosh Mr. Analyst. Did you go to college to deduce what any logical 13 year old could tell you? Is it Obvious News Day and no one told me?
 
If good games with commercial appeal are released, they will sell. Last year, particularly at the end, there weren't any of these games.

Now if he's saying that good games aren't going to come out because publishers are shoveling out a bunch of supposedly next-gen games for the launch (window) instead, then maybe he is right.
 
CO_Andy said:
FFxii, Okami, or Valkyrie Profile 2 ring a bell? There's also another GTA and hopefully Ryoga Go Gotaku.

I'm not even sure that FF XII will make it this year to the USA and Europe, but even if it does, Final Fantasy after all isn't THAT big in the west. And I also got the impression that Ryo Go Gotaku and Valkyrie Profile are more japanese games.
Btw. the PSP GTA will sell really good, no doubt about that, but after all the first one is not even a million seller yet, I'm talking about games like GTA: SA (or the other two PS2 GTA's), Halo, Zelda etc.
 
Frankfurter said:
I'm not even sure that FF XII will make it this year to the USA and Europe, but even if it does, Final Fantasy after all isn't THAT big in the west. And I also got the impression that Ryo Go Gotaku and Valkyrie Profile are more japanese games.
Btw. the PSP GTA will sell really good, no doubt about that, but after all the first one is not even a million seller yet, I'm talking about games like GTA: SA (or the other two PS2 GTA's), Halo, Zelda etc.
The FF core series (I don't count FFXI) has broken 1M+ units with every release on a Sony console. Its a big deal everywhere.
 
Drek said:
The FF core series (I don't count FFXI) has broken 1M+ units with every release on a Sony console. Its a big deal everywhere.

That's what I'm talking about ;) One million is of course a lot of units, but it's nowhere near to a PS2 GTA game or Halo or Mario or sth. like that.
 
FFX sold over two million copies. If FFXII could do that it would likely be the top selling non-Madden game this year. But if I remember correctly FFIX didn't sell as much as the previous PlayStation installments because it came out shortly before PS2 launched. FFXII will probably be the exact same scenario since it obviously isn't coming out in the U.S. before September.

Companies start hyping up next gen, so people hold onto their money. Then publishers realize they need to be selling more software to the current gen audience that is already out there, and freak out. Why not hold off on slaughtering enthusiasm for current gen software until there's more than two million "next gen" systems in people's homes? The publishers are shooting themselves in the foot and the doom and gloom reports that we'll start seeing every month will be funny to read, because they created this situation themselves.
 
Cheebs said:
Tell that to Nintendo.

Sony and MS may shrink. But Nintendo is expanding. :lol

yeah well nintendo has the right price points for their products, I think the Rev, DS, and gameboy offerings will keep them healthy for years to come.
 
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