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Andrew House comments the PS4 launch
- Thread starter ComputerMKII
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Supply is the biggest factor, their projection is probably pretty close to what they are able to produce by March.
enanogrande
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Companies always low ball estimates to the public. If they're saying 5, Internal estimates are probably 6. Not hitting estimates would be brutal on their stocks, so they always play it safe. (Also why analysts predict higher numbers than the actual company line)
This could also be a factor, but I still think they'll set expectations low with the hope of breaking them.
Shanks D Zoro
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I have said the whole time that 6.5-7million is what I am expecting. edit: of course that is if they can supply them
France is 4th for Sony? I bet they say that to all the European countries. I would be pissed off if I was germany after seeing the German launch pictures.
France is 4th for Sony? I bet they say that to all the European countries. I would be pissed off if I was germany after seeing the German launch pictures.
Triggerhappytel
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Better to low-ball it though and come in above expectations.
Not to undermine him, but since it's selling out everywhere, shouldn't it be easy? it's basically as much as you shipped.
Unless of course, they too rely on research company figures such as those from GFK. And for GFK, he is right, in that it is a bit more complicated to calculate a truer figure with the increase in the number of countries.
Unless of course, they too rely on research company figures such as those from GFK. And for GFK, he is right, in that it is a bit more complicated to calculate a truer figure with the increase in the number of countries.
They lowball so that in case projections aren't met, they don't look really foolish to investors and others. I think they'll probably do more than that, heck I think with the strong demand for Xbox One, that both consoles will each have more 3-4 million worldwide by that time. Obviously PS4 has the solid early momentum.
Another factor is supply. Though Sony has been great at making sure their console is stocked. I've seen it restocked once locally myself, and it was gone by the very next day.
GameAddict411
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If there isn't a supply issues they could easily surpass that.
EventHorizon
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Yea but if Sony released shipped numbers everybody would be claiming that they are hiding something, and that would lessen the PR benefit. They just need to wait a little bit and get the actual numbers and release them for maximum effect. Sony knows its doing well. There is no reason to rush.
If it's that hard to count the European sales, then why did Microsoft managed to publish their day 1 sales on Friday (less than 24 hours after launch).
Knowing how Gfk Chart works it feels impossible to get accurate sold to consumers numbers in less than 72 hours so something doesn't sound good here. I need zomg to comment about this.
Knowing how Gfk Chart works it feels impossible to get accurate sold to consumers numbers in less than 72 hours so something doesn't sound good here. I need zomg to comment about this.
Yeah, I know. 5 more people actually bought one!
bigboss370
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isn't it something like MS needed to only account for 13 countries whereas PS4 needs to count many more?
The demand will surely hit more than that, but the supply is the problem.
TheRealTalker
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Wonder if they will do an event to commentate their 20th birthday in late 2014
Game announcements and what not
Game announcements and what not
crazygambit
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But the figure for say the UK still wouldn't be available that soon from Chart-Track. So it was either an estimation or they have their own tracking.
Miles Quaritch
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Hah.
This never gets old. Still makes me sad though, such a great piece of tech being ignored by the clueless masses...
TheDarkKnight774
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I think they went with estimated sales (knowing it'd likely sell out and nobody could discredit it given the 13 countries) to get that press release out so early and before the weekend
michaelius
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European launch also includes countries like Poland where we don't really have any serious sales tracking agencies.
ShockingAlberto
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It's not clueless to not buy something that doesn't appeal to you and the Vita doesn't appeal to most people.
airmangataosenai
Member
The idea is the opposite of what Iwata is being with his estimates: It's a number they know they can surpass so they're maintaining that so when they announce something higher at the end of the fiscal year it will look better for them. The actual number will probably be closer to 6 million shipped afer the Japan launch.
zomgbbqftw
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Vita sales going up is always great news!
Lol, got confused until I realized this was translated. I suppose that should say 'discs' instead of 'movies'.
Edit:
Gotcha. No worries, clear enough anyway. Just nitpicking at something that caught my eye.
ComputerMKII
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one.I want to see Phil Harrison comment on the PS4 launch. I miss him.
Well Microsoft also said they had sold out but then we started seeing pictures of unsold Xbox stock in stores as well as getting anecdotal evidence of people seeing stock in stores so maybe Microsoft isn't the best place to get sales data from specially when their main competitor is destroying their numbers
Too bad Nintendo isn't like this. They always overestimate on their sales.
zomgbbqftw
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These are Friday and Saturday point-of-sale tracking figures for 93% of the UK market. You can take it to the bank.
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How hard can it be to calculate how many they sold. Surely they know how many units were in the launch and they've all pretty much sold out.
DagnastyEp
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Facebook integration is great; but there's more components to having social features than just facebook, such as Twich streaming. In fact, I think Twitch is a much bigger deal than Facebook integration, and I'm surprised he didn't call that out.
I don't think the social features on any of the consoles will lead to meaningful increases in users per console, in fact it seems like there's a greater push to everyone having their own consoles, rather then sharing; especially with more and more titles removing split-screen gaming.
sixteen-bit
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First to 5 million wins?
silver.tongue
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TheDrowningMan
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I don't see what's "nuts" about it. It only needs to massively outsell both PS4 and Xbox One through the end of the financial year to get there.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Imagine how well it will sell when they finally get some top notch exclusives.
Well projections had them making 1m a month by now. So even if they only started today thats 4m by the end of march, not counting what was already made in the previous months to get them to be able to ship 2m+ in 2 weeks.
jim-jam bongs
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Maybe they're counting downloads for the day 1 patch you need to use the console?
kingkaiser
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That's how Iwata rolls, he likes to apologize.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
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It's about right. They're not going to keep up 2.5m per 15 days. Sales will slow once immediate demand is satisfied. I'd say it's probable for Sony and very iffy for Microsoft to get there.
It's being ignored by game makers too. Mine's been dead weight for almost this entire year because there's just nothing to play on it.
PD still building the mother-of-all-bombs. Gran Turismo 7 can't come soon enough.
phosphor112
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I wonder how long it'll take to get the sales numbers.
I'm glad it's doing well. Hopefully Sony can keep up momentum.
What you mean to say, is that there's been nothing for you.
Then you have a very narrow interest in video game content, because there's been a lot of games this year for it.
What you mean to say, is that there's been nothing for you.